
CHURN FM
CHURN FM is the podcast for subscription economy pros. Every Wednesday we hear how the world’s fastest growing companies are tackling churn and using retention & engagement to fuel their growth.
Latest episodes

Oct 7, 2020 • 31min
EP 82 | Adelina Peltea - How Holded improves longterm retention with a “Constant Onboarding” approach.
Today on the show we have Adelina Peltea, VP of Growth at Holded.In this episode, we talked about the biggest differences between different growth stages of a startup, why you should always stay true to your startup’s DNA, how to iterate your way to product-market fit at the Seed stage and why Adelina believes you should never get feedback from free users. We also discussed Adelina’s responsibilities as VP of Growth at Holded, how she reshuffled her team to be more cross-functional and structured around each stage of the user journey, and how the growth team at Holded works together to improve activation rates. As usual, I'm excited to hear what you think of this episode, and if you have any feedback, I would love to hear from you. You can email me directly on Andrew@churn.fm. Don't forget to follow us on Twitter.Churn FM is sponsored by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform.

Sep 30, 2020 • 47min
EP 81 | Mark Tanner (Qwirl) - The pros and cons of a freemium plan and how it impacts churn
Today on the show we have Mark Tanner, co-founder, and COO of Qwilr.In this episode, we talked about what it was like for Mark taking the leap from a cushy job at Google to start his own business, why they built Qwilr, the motivation behind it, and what's the big plan for the future. We also discussed Qwilr’s on and off relationship with a freemium plan of their product, how first impressions always matter, and churn and retention in the context of sales.As usual, I'm excited to hear what you think of this episode, and if you have any feedback, I would love to hear from you. You can email me directly on Andrew@churn.fm. Don't forget to follow us on Twitter.Churn FM is sponsored by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform.

Sep 23, 2020 • 36min
EP 80 | David Apple (Notion) - The evolving role of Customer Success in hyper-growth companies
Today on the show we have David Apple, Head of Customer Success at Notion.In this episode, we talked about the conflict between Sales and Customer Success and how it can be avoided, what the leading indicators of retention are at Typeform VS Notion, and how Typeform’s CS team segments its customers based on their retention rate to help prioritize, appoint resources, and make decisions. We also discussed why sooner is not always better, the low touch and high touch onboarding set up at Typeform & Notion, and why the two companies waited a long time to invest a single dollar in customer acquisition plus more.As usual, I'm excited to hear what you think of this episode, and if you have any feedback, I would love to hear from you. You can email me directly on Andrew@churn.fm. Don't forget to follow us on TwitterChurn FM is sponsored by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform.

Sep 16, 2020 • 41min
EP 79 | Angel Steger (Facebook) - More than numbers: How a “bad hookup face” helped Pinterest increase virality and retention.
Today on the show we have Angel Steger, Director Of Product Design at Facebook.In this episode, we talked about what it’s like designing a building for over 2.7 billion users, how focusing on activation can increase retention, and how giving users a feeling of ownership had a big impact on Pinterest’s user activation.We also discussed Qualitative research at Pinterest: How a bad hookup face helped increase their messaging response rate, and how Dropbox and Pinterest use internal experimentation systems to help avoid bad user experiences.As usual, I'm excited to hear what you think of this episode, and if you have any feedback, I would love to hear from you. You can email me directly on Andrew@churn.fm. Don't forget to follow us on Twitter.Churn FM is sponsored by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform.

Sep 9, 2020 • 37min
EP 78 | Francis Brero - Why MadKudu pivoted their company’s focus from churn risk detection to conversion prediction.
Today on the show we have Francis Brero, CRO, and Co-Founder of MadKudu.In this episode, we talked about how Francis started out studying mechanical engineering and ended up founding a company now serving as the CFO, what MadKudu is and how they help their customers, and why starting off the company by helping companies predict churn didn’t work. We also discussed how a typical customer uses Madkudu and what success looks like for them, how Madkudu predicts retention at different time horizons, and the three stages of a customer’s lifecycle every CS team should know about. As usual, I'm excited to hear what you think of this episode, and if you have any feedback, I would love to hear from you. You can email me directly on Andrew@churn.fm. Don't forget to follow us on Twitter.Churn FM is sponsored by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform.

Sep 2, 2020 • 33min
EP 77 | Ward Sandler (MemberSpace) - Reduce churn with these 3 cancelation alternatives in your exit flow.
Today on the show we have Ward Sandler, co-founder of MemberSpace.In this episode, we talked about the biggest point of failure for first-time subscription business owners, the evolution of pricing and packaging at MemberSpace, and the importance of figuring out what customers are willing to pay before you build a product.We also discussed how MemberSpace educates its customers on churn, how Ward maintains and keeps up with customer conversations as the company grows, and how you can decrease churn with cancelation alternatives.As usual, I'm excited to hear what you think of this episode, and if you have any feedback, I would love to hear from you. You can email me directly on Andrew@churn.fm. Don't forget to follow us on Twitter.Churn FM is sponsored by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform.

Aug 26, 2020 • 40min
EP 76 | How retention helped Drift’s VP of strategy, Adam Schoenfeld build and sell 2 companies
Today on the show we have Adam Schoenfeld, VP of Strategy at Drift, and GM of Drift Video.In this episode, we talked about how a customer-centric approach helped him build and scale two successful businesses, why he talks to his customers every single day, and why everyone at Drift has chat duty.We also discussed the importance of churn & retention when a company is being acquired, and how Adam views churn and retention now as VP of strategy at Drift vs his previous views as CEO of his own company.As usual, I'm excited to hear what you think of this episode, and if you have any feedback, I would love to hear from you. You can email me directly on Andrew@churn.fm. Don't forget to follow us on Twitter.Churn FM is sponsored by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform.

Aug 19, 2020 • 32min
EP 75 | Bozena Pieniazek (Maze) - How Product Marketing impacts churn & retention
Today on the show we have Bozena Pieniazek, Director of Marketing at Maze.In this episode, we broke down the function of Product Marketing, discussed how it impacts churn and retention, shared views on where it should sit in a company, and dove into how product marketers help companies understand user personas and their different use cases.We also discussed why Maze decided to rethink their positioning, how nailing your positioning & messaging, can help attract and bring in the right customers for your business, and how you can fill your marketing funnel by asking the right questions.As usual, I'm excited to hear what you think of this episode, and if you have any feedback, I would love to hear from you. You can email me directly on Andrew@churn.fm. Don't forget to follow us on Twitter.Churn FM is sponsored by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform.

Aug 12, 2020 • 36min
EP 74 | Mark Thompson - Why your customers churn involuntarily and how to prevent it.
Today on the show we have Mark Thompson, co-founder of PayKickstart.In this episode, we talked about how an internal tool their team built ended up being their main product, affiliate programs as a channel for growth, and the challenges they face when it comes to churn & retention.We also discussed how PayKickstart optimizes their onboarding to tackle churn, how they measure its impact, and how to avoid credit card failures by being proactive with your customers. As usual, I'm excited to hear what you think of this episode, and if you have any feedback, I would love to hear from you. You can email me directly on Andrew@churn.fm. Don't forget to follow us on Twitter.Churn FM is sponsored by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform.

Aug 5, 2020 • 45min
EP 73 | David Brice - Why Envato launched a subscription service alongside its 15-year-old transactional business.
Today on the show we have David Brice, General Manager & Executive of the Customer Group at EnvatoIn this episode, we talked about how David made the switch from a green tech business owner to a marketplace software business General Manager, why Envato launched a subscription service alongside its 15-year-old transactional business, and how the two business models are treated within the company. We also discussed how they balance the supply and demand function to make sure their authors are earning a healthy income on both products, how they minimize churn and increase retention, their health metrics, and what David wished he knew about churn and retention when he first started out.As usual, I'm excited to hear what you think of this episode, and if you have any feedback, I would love to hear from you. You can email me directly on Andrew@churn.fm. Don't forget to follow us on Twitter.Churn FM is sponsored by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform.