
5to9
5to9 is a podcast for people seeking inspiration and aspiring to work on their own terms.
We’ll have conversations with freelancers, creators, side hustlers, and all sorts of folks who made the pivot to reimagine how they work in relation to the life they want to live and redefine their own success. Yep, they made it happen and you can too!
Say goodbye to the status quo, autopilot days, and unfulfillment. And say hello to 5to9~
Latest episodes

Oct 5, 2023 • 46min
09: The State of Freelance // Rachel Renock (Co-Founder & CEO of Wethos)
In this episode of 5to9, I had a chat with Rachel Renock, a self-proclaimed creative monster, a rogue lesbian, former freelancer, and now co-founder and CEO of Wethos, an all-in-one platform for freelancers to create proposals, send invoices, and get paid.In 2016, Rachel co-founded a freelance creative studio that worked with non-profits. After putting together various project-based teams for her clients and making over $1.4M in a little over a year, she realized that there was a bigger problem to solve - helping millions of freelancers double their income and scale their businesses.We talked about why freelancing is the future (according to data), the most important things for freelancers to learn, collaboration over competition, whether you should freelance in the current market condition, how she persisted in building Wethos after getting rejected by 150 investors then ultimately raised $12M, and more.This is Rachel Renock for 5to9.

Sep 28, 2023 • 43min
08: Reclaiming Your Creativity // Carol Chan (Freelance Brand Strategist & Business Coach)
In this episode of 5to9, I had a chat with Carol Chan, a brand strategist & marketer, business coach for female founders, lover of travel, and a loud and proud native New Yorker.Carol had over 10 years of experience at creative agencies, mission-driven organizations, and high-growth companies like 72 and Sunny, Built by Girls and Pepper. She is now a freelance brand strategist and business coach for modern purpose-driven brands.We talked about owning our creativity, how she got closer and closer to what she wanted to do after quitting each job, making career decisions from a place of self-love and play, the evolution of My Dearest Co - her creative playground, how she helps people have more self-trust, rest, and ease in both business and life and more!This is Carol Chan for 5to9.

Sep 21, 2023 • 59min
07: What is Fractional Work // Alaina Andreozzi (Fractional CMO & Co-founder of Pizza Wine)
Alaina Andreozzi, fractional CMO & Co-founder of Pizza Wine, discusses leaving a successful career, defining fractional work, pitching it to clients, building a network, and finding work-life balance.

Sep 14, 2023 • 43min
06: When It's Time To Quit // Tori Lazar (Creative Leadership Coach & Biz Consultant)
In this episode of 5to9, I had a chat with Tori Lazar, a fashion stylist turned marketer turned entrepreneur turned tech executive turned leadership coach.Tori’s had a a pretty untraditional career path and is all about owning failures as opportunities, while always staying true to herself and getting closer and closer to finding alignment in her work.We talked about her various chapters and learnings in them, when it’s time to quit, how to pick yourself back up after a layoff, sabbaticals, the importance of her support system, finally embracing being her multi-faceted self, and more!This is Tori Lazar for 5to9.

Sep 7, 2023 • 42min
05: Taking Risks As A Practice // Jezz Chung (Author, Speaker, Artist)
Jezz Chung, author, speaker, and artist, talks about their religious upbringing, leaving a successful advertising career to become an artist, embracing sensitivity as a superpower, taking risks, and the importance of self-care and community care in personal transformation.

Aug 31, 2023 • 35min
04: Freelance vs Building a Brand Studio // Nikita Walia (Founder & CEO of BLANK)
Nikita Walia, Founder & CEO of BLANK, discusses her transition from freelancing to building her own brand studio, her evolving idea of a dream client, finding clients, and creating an operating system for life. They also touch on the challenges of conforming to societal career expectations, the importance of networking and building relationships in the creative industry, overcoming fear, and the power of personal growth in building a business.

Aug 24, 2023 • 37min
03: From "Shoulds" to Living Bravely // Nicole Cruz (Corporate Manager Turned Life Coach)
In this episode of 5to9, I had a chat with Nicole Cruz, a corporate manager turned life coach, a digital nomad, a mango lover, a 90s hip hop die-hard, and most recently a TEDx speaker.After climbing the corporate ladder in the insurance industry for a decade, in 2016, Nicole quit her 6-figure corporate job, downsized her belongings, and traveled the world with her husband for 10 months. During that time, she worked on her transformation like it was her full-time job, dove deep into spirituality, and mindset, tried new things, and eventually realized she wanted to become a life coach.She is now on a mission to help 1st and 2nd generation immigrants of color move from fear and self-doubt to clarity and joy.We talked about her “good girl” days, what led her to take a sabbatical, evolving her identity, the mindset shifts she had to make from employee to entrepreneur, whether an MBA is worth it, and more!This is Nicole Cruz for 5to9.

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Aug 17, 2023 • 41min
02: A More Regenerative Work/Life // Alice Katter (Founder of Out of Office)
Alice Katter, founder of Out of Office, discusses work-life balance, work culture shock in the US, importance of creativity, community, and redefining work. The conversation explores the concept of workism, sustainable work models, power of creative projects, and regenerative business design.

Aug 10, 2023 • 42min
01: Doing it Scared // Allison Filice (Illustrator & Creator of The Journey Oracle Deck)
In this episode of 5to9, I had a chat with Allison Fillice, an illustrator, mom to two young children, Creator of The Journey oracle deck (aka my favorite oracle deck), host of the Friendly Unknown podcast, and an avid explorer of creativity, spiritually and psychology.Allison used to be a design director at a market research company in San Francisco. One day she realized that she did not want to continue down this path and decide to go rogue and be an illustrator. Since then she has worked with clients including the New York Times, The New Yorker, WSJ, Refinery 29, and many more brands in addition to birthing multiple creative projects.We talked about the moment she realized she wanted to make a big pivot in her life, self-expression, having a detective mindset when embarking on something new, listening to the feeling of resistance, and so many more juicy topics. I truly felt so connected to her in this conversation and was inspired by her deep curiosity to stay true to how she wants to work and live.This is Allison Fillice for 5to9.

Aug 2, 2023 • 17min
Welcome to 5to9!
5to9 is a podcast for people seeking inspiration and aspiring to work on their own terms. In this intro episode, I will be talking a little bit about my work and life journey so far and why I’m creating this podcast. In upcoming episodes, we’ll have conversations with freelancers, multi-hyphenates, creators, side hustlers, full-timers, coaches and all sorts of folks who made pivots and challenged the status quo to reimagine how they work in relation to the life they want to live and redefine their own success. My hope is that it will fuel you in moments of stuckness and keep you going so you can get closer to working and living your dream life. Welcome to 5to9! 5to9 is a podcast by Space to Grow.http://spacetogrow.worldhttp://instagram.com/spacetogrow.world
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