Relationship Coaching School Podcast

Jayson Gaddis
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Jul 22, 2025 • 53min

Group Work, Healing, and the Role of the Facilitator with Christian Pankhurst

Christian Pankhurst joins Jayson to talk about group work. What does “healing” really mean? What do transformative arcs in group therapy look like? Should the facilitator be part of the group? Can group work replace one-on-one therapy? How can you stay well as a healer? How should facilitators deal with projection? Stay tuned until the end to hear Christian and Jayson share their self-care strategies.Timestamps:2:22 - Emergent group facilitation3:48 - Is the facilitator part of the group?8:48 - Transformative arcs in group therapy13:37 - What does “healing” mean?15:53 - Why group work?25:52 - Group work vs one on one30:59 - Staying well as a healer40:09 - Dealing with projection as a facilitator50:56 - Where to find ChristianLinks:Upgrade Your Life & Relationships with Heart Intelligence | Heart iQFollow Jayson on social media:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠
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Jul 16, 2025 • 33min

Coaching Someone Whose Partner Isn’t Doing the Work - Jayson Gaddis - 535

How should you coach someone whose partner isn’t doing the work? Jayson breaks it down. How should coaches and therapists get their clients to focus on themselves? Should clients leave or stay with an impossible person? Why is it so important for clients to have their feelings validated? How can you help your clients take responsibility for not speaking up? Don’t miss this insightful look at a difficult situation.Timestamps:1:18 - Coaching someone whose partner isn’t doing the work4:47 - Getting clients to focus on themselves8:47 - Staying with an impossible person10:35 - Leaving an impossible person15:00 - You need to have your feelings validated20:35 - Helping clients feel the sharp edge of the knife24:00 - Why do clients get defensive about the partner they’re criticizing?25:00 - Coaching your client to ask their partner to change31:21 - Helping your clients take responsibility for not speaking upLinks:Follow Jayson on social media:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠
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Jul 8, 2025 • 1h 12min

Psychedelics: Revolutionary Healing Tool or a Spiritual Bypass? - Dr. Will Van Derveer - 534

Dr. Will Van Derveer joins Jayson to discuss the uses and misuses of psychedelic drugs. He shares his background, his work in integrative psychiatry, and the limitations of conventional mental health treatments. Dr. Van Derveer also explores the therapeutic potential of ketamine, MDMA, LSD, psilocybin, and more.Are there people who shouldn’t use psychedelics? If you’re going to use them, what are some best practices? Don’t miss this enlightening episode.Will Van Derveer, MD is a leader in the adoption of integrative psychiatry practices globally. After discovering that his conventional psychiatric training was inadequate to answer many of the challenges facing his patients, Dr. Van Derveer began to learn how to resolve the root causes of common psychiatric problems such as depression, anxiety, and insomnia.Dr. Van Derveer has published research on MDMA-assisted psychotherapy for PTSD and written book chapters in the fields of ketamine-assisted psychotherapy and other clinical applications of psychedelic compounds. His passion is finding effective relief from psychological suffering using a vast array of the most natural approaches possible. In addition to traditional medical training, He is a meditation instructor and has trained in shamanism, EMDR, somatic experiencing, internal family systems, cognitive behavioral therapy, and hypnosis.Timestamps:1:09 - Will's journey3:24 - Limitations of conventional mental health treatments14:56 - Will's journey with psychedelics22:16 - Ketamine27:08 - MDMA31:09 - Other psychedelics42:20 - Jayson's experiance with psychedelics46:02 - Problems in the psychedelics scene57:02 - Psychedelics as part of a long-term treatment plan1:00:00 - Who does NOT benefit from psychedelics?1:04:00 - Tips for using psychedelics1:07:00 - Where to find WillLinks:Will's InstagramWill's X ⁠Relationship Coach Training⁠Follow Jayson on social media:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠
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Jul 1, 2025 • 21min

The Victim Triangle - Jayson Gaddis - 533

Are you stuck in victimhood? Jayson breaks down how to invert the victim triangle and make the shift from victim to author. What’s the difference between blame and responsibility? Is being in the victim seat always a bad thing? Stay tuned until the end when Jayson shares one important question you should always ask your clients - and yourself.Timestamps:0:55 - The victim/drama triangle5:08 - The difference between blame and responsibility6:58 - Getting out of the victim seat8:31 - Inverting the victim triangle15:00 - Making the journey from victim to author18:15 - One challenging questionLinks:Relationship Coach TrainingFollow Jayson on social media:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠
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Jun 24, 2025 • 1h 10min

Evolved Coaching with Navy Seal Mark Divine PhD - 532

What if today were your last day on Earth? Jayson is joined by author and retired Navy SEAL Commander Mark Divine for his 3rd time on the show to discuss finding your purpose on this planet, meditation vs. psychedelics, developing mental and physical toughness, and much more. Don’t miss Mark’s exhortation for coaches at the end.Mark Divine is a retired Navy SEAL, bestselling author, and transformative thought leader, inspiring compassion, resilience, and fortitude. His distinguished military career spanned two decades with tours in Iraq, the Middle East, and the Korean Peninsula, culminating in his retirement in as a Commander. Beyond the battlefield, Mark founded SEALFIT, where he blends Navy SEAL training with innovative mental toughness and mindfulness techniques. Through the Unbeatable Mind program he has trained thousands in his "Kokoro" whole mind system, and through the Mark Divine Courage Foundation, he aids veterans seeking post-traumatic growth. Mark holds a PhD in Global Leadership from Pepperdine University and resides in Encinitas, California, with his wife, Sandy, and Husky Mahina.Timestamps:5:15 - Horizontal vs. vertical development13:04 - The importance of training your body19:06 - You are not your thoughts24:08 - Vertical development takes time29:24 - What are you on this planet for?37:39 - Don’t feed the fear wolf41:05 - Meditation vs psychedelics45:33 - What if today is your last day?48:48 - Why coaches need to be doing the work56:53 - AI in coachingLinks:Mark Divine – Navy SEAL Speaker, Author, Founder of Unbeatable MindFollow Jayson on social media:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠
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Jun 17, 2025 • 29min

Signs It’s Time to Fire Your Therapist or Coach - Jayson Gaddis - 531

Is it time to fire your coach or therapist? Jayson breaks it down. Do the sessions you attend feel more like coffee dates? Is your trauma going unaddressed? Have you been seeing a practitioner for years without making real progress? If you're struggling to see results, you won’t want to miss this episode.Timestamps:5:26 - Your story isn’t being challenged6:35 - Sessions feel like a coffee date7:36 - Therapy feels like a friendship8:56 - Trauma isn’t being addressed11:31 - No change is happening13:13 - Uncritically siding with your story15:20 - The asks are too challenging17:26 - You’re not doing your homework21:19 - Final thoughtsLinks:Follow Jayson on social media:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠
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Jun 10, 2025 • 1h 7min

Coaching Reframes and Context with Master Coach John O’Connor

What does it mean to follow your deepest calling? How do you get clear on what actually matters and act on it today? Jayson sits down with executive coach John O’Connor to explore what it takes to create real transformation.They get into symbolic sovereignty, creating a clear vision, and how deep callings can emerge from deep traumas. Jayson shares what it means to earn your black belt in relationships, they discuss why music is a powerful metaphor for life, and the one skill every facilitator needs. They also talk about entanglement, and having a shared vision with your partner. Stick around for grounded insights on leadership, connection, and showing up fully to the work only you can do.John O’Connor is an executive coach and facilitator living in Boulder, Colorado. For more than a decade, John has coached the top CEOs and leaders in hedge funds, startups, and Fortune 500 companies. John embodies a masterful level of skill to create radical transformation. His coaching path emerged out of 17 years as a massage therapist, after working through tens of thousands of bodies, he developed a deep connection and curiosity to the unconscious mind, learning how to facilitate behavioral, emotional and mental change at the deepest level. John was a co-lead facilitator at the first two Open Source Retreats that helped lay the foundation for the EVRYMAN movement. He is also a certified NLP and hypnosis trainer, a certified master coach, creator of The Access Method, and author of the upcoming book From Ordinary to Extraordinary.Timestamps:1:23 - What is your deepest calling?3:49 - Stepping out of time8:54 - Creating a clear vision10:43 - What are the three most important things you need to do today?13:19 - Symbolic sovereignty32:24 - How to get your black belt in relationships37:36 - Music as a metaphor for relationships45:48 - Having a shared vision52:42 - Deep callings can emerge from deep traumas58:56 - Dealing with entanglement1:04:00 - An important skill for facilitators and coachesLinks:Follow Jayson on social media:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠
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Jun 3, 2025 • 24min

The Core Inner Conflict

Jayson breaks down the problems with one common strategy—people-pleasing and how it relates to the core inner conflict. What are the childhood roots of people-pleasing? Why do people-pleasers become resentful? Why do integrated individuals make better coaches and therapists? Tune in to this insightful episode to learn how to stop betraying yourself in the context of your relationship.Timestamps:1:37 - Client example5:43 - The childhood roots of people-pleasing12:04 - Betraying yourself to fit in14:46 - Why people-pleasers become resentful18:23 - Why integrated people make better coaches and therapistsLinks:Follow Jayson on social media:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠
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May 27, 2025 • 1h 19min

50 Years As A Therapist- Sage Advice for All Coaches & Therapists - Duane Mullner - 528

Jayson sits down with Duane Mullner to talk about the role of the therapist or coach. Why is the here and now so important? Can clients help their coaches and therapists? How should you prepare for a session? What should you do with a client who isn’t making progress? How can you help clients who are stuck in victimhood? Don’t miss this chance to hear Duane Mullner share the wisdom he has accumulated over his long career.Timestamps:6:44 - What is the role of the therapist/coach15:30 - What’s going on between therapist and client?20:31 - Why is the here and now so important?27:39 - Don’t make resistance wrong34:35 - How clients help coaches and therapists41:46 - How to prepare for a session44:51 - Making progress with clients54:18 - How to help people who are in their victimhood1:07:00 - Should you trust clients to treat you about their problems?Links:Follow Jayson on social media:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠
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May 20, 2025 • 19min

Coaching Yourself with AI - Jayson Gaddis - 527

Discover how to coach yourself using AI with practical prompts and techniques. Explore AI's potential for providing constructive criticism and even tough love. Dive into its intriguing intersection with astrology and Gene Keys. Learn how to enhance your therapy sessions with AI tools while remembering the importance of human connection in personal growth. Jayson Gaddis offers insights on leveraging technology for accountability and self-improvement!

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