

Lazy Leverage
Jon Matzner and Peter Lohmann
Talking about using leverage in life and business.
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Oct 24, 2024 • 33min
The Four Data Systems: A Framework for Scaling Team Communication | Lazy Leverage #28
In this episode of Lazy Leverage, Jon and Binsi tackle the universal challenge of scaling team communication beyond the 30-person mark. They break down their revolutionary "four data types" framework - database, reference, ad-hoc, and project-based communication - while exploring how to effectively leverage tools like Slack, Airtable, and Notion. Through practical demonstrations and real-world examples, they show how to transform chaotic communication into streamlined project management, complete with insights on their preferred GTD-inspired workflow and an innovative approach to KPI-based team organization.
Timestamps
(00:00) Introduction and Greetings
(01:28) Consolidating Information
(02:45) Data Types and Tools
(04:26) Project Management Discussion
(06:22) Choosing the Right Tools
(09:16) Implementing Slack for Project Management
(16:50) Practical Slack Demonstration
(22:45) Reflecting on Past Project Management
(24:45) Command and Control in Projects
(28:53) Organizing Teams Around KPIs
(31:59) Final Thoughts and Reorganization
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Oct 22, 2024 • 21min
Hiring Hacks Unlocked: Debunking Recruitment Myths with Sofia Bravo | Lazy Leverage #27
In this insightful and candid episode, Jon Matzner teams up with Sofia Bravo, Sagan's Head of Recruitment, to dissect and debunk common hiring pitfalls. They explore why traditional job titles and strict budgets might be holding companies back, emphasizing the power of clear role descriptions and the right attitude over rigid experience. Expect real talk about the recruitment process, from the importance of responsive hiring practices to innovative strategies that ensure top candidates don't fall through the cracks. And stay tuned for some fun discussions about potential off-sites in
Mexico!(00:00) Introduction
(01:10) Sophia's Background and Role at Sagan
(4:08) Common Hiring Mistakes: Job Titles
(08:56) Common Hiring Mistakes: Budget Expectations
(10:42) Understanding Budget Tradeoffs in Hiring
(11:57) Challenges with Unrealistic Expectations
(13:40) The Value of Coachable Candidates
(17:07) Responsiveness in the Hiring Process
(19:08) Final Thoughts and Advice
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Oct 17, 2024 • 53min
The Hustler’s Handbook: Scaling, Sales, and Street-Smart Tactics with John Kelly | Lazy Leverage #26
Get ready to dive into the real-talk playbook of entrepreneurship and scaling your business with Lazy Leverage! In this episode, we kick it with Jon Matzner and John Kelly to talk about nailing customer acquisition and converting leads in the power washing game. We’ll spill the secrets on remote sales hires, building a killer team from scratch, and sidestepping the common traps in hiring. Learn to streamline your operations, sharpen your sales structures, and deliver pricing presentations like a pro. Plus, get raw wisdom from Mike Costigan on showing up on time, reading body language, and mastering the door-to-door hustle. This episode packs honest insights and practical advice to help you grind, grow, and crush it in the business world.
(00:00) Introduction and Background
(01:17) Challenges in Sales and Conversion
(01:40) Remote Sales and Hiring Strategies
(04:26) Cost Analysis and Break-Even Points
(07:17) Labor Specialization and Global Talent
(11:15) Developing a Scalable Business Model
(20:45) Managing and Measuring Performance
(25:18) Sales Techniques and Customer Engagement
(29:07) Pricing Presentation Techniques
(32:42) Learning from Sales Experts
(35:10) Old School Sales Tricks
(39:54) The Journey of Entrepreneurship
(50:05) Staying in the Game
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Oct 15, 2024 • 27min
Leverage Like a Pro: From AI Tools to Client Hustle | Lazy Leverage #25
Welcome back to Lazy Leverage!
In this episode, Peter and Jon break down how to maximize your personal and professional life with killer strategies and AI tools. They dive into leveraging teams and systems to handle life's hiccups, boost productivity with Whisper Flow and Audio Diary, and even how limited-time offers can skyrocket your sales. Get the lowdown on engaging clients, personalized outreach, and maintaining exclusivity while expanding your community. Learn from real-life scenarios and high-value tactic, that can help you crush your goals and scale up smartly.
Through our Conversation, you'll discover:
(00:00) The Power of Leverage in Business
(02:49) Balancing Sales and Member Focus
(05:27) The Psychology of Limited Availability
(10:39) Personal Outreach and Promotion Strategies
(13:08) The Power of Personal Outreach
(14:49) Sales Strategies and Experiments
(16:22) Aligning Audience and Product
(18:41) Membership Success and Future Plans
(22:14) Tactical Tips and Tools
(24:01) Voice Technology Innovations
(26:32) Conclusion and Farewell
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Apr 30, 2024 • 1h 25min
Beyond Selling: Elevating Business Success with Insights | Lazy Leverage #24
Want to learn about cold calling and prospecting?
Johnny Costigan has been a sales trainer for 20 years, and has worked with sales teams at Google, Amazon, Dropbox, SAP, Dropbox, and many others.
Example - how he describes sales:
- Got a problem?
- Got money?
- Want to solve it?
If you are at all interested in professionalizing sales and filling your funnel (like me) there is so much more within this conversation, and Johnny's experience...
Through our conversation, you'll discover:
00:00 Introduction to Johnny Costigan and His Sales Philosophy
01:09 The Art of Introducing Yourself in Sales
02:52 Johnny's Approach to Sales Training and Its Origins
06:04 The Importance of Authenticity and Adaptability in Sales
19:28 Leveraging Techniques from Various Disciplines in Sales
28:15 The Chess and Checkers of Sales: Knowing When to Simplify
31:19 The Power of Owning Your Mistakes
32:36 The Importance of Refreshing Sales Training
34:04 Mastering Active Listening in Sales
38:43 The Art of Asking the Right Questions
43:13 Navigating Sales Conversations with Empathy
44:27 The Critical Role of Curiosity in Sales
48:53 Transitioning from Problem Identification to Solution Presentation
53:28 Ensuring Commitment Before Proposing Solutions
58:54 Unlocking the Secrets of Effective Prospecting
59:43 The Art of Earning Credibility in Sales
01:00:30 Mastering the Sales Meeting: Strategies and Insights
01:03:17 Navigating Sales Challenges with Humor and Strategy
01:10:21 Exploring the Dynamics of Modern Sales Organizations
01:12:20 The Philosophy of Self-Sufficiency in Sales
01:17:50 Leveraging Inbound Leads: A Strategic Approach
01:24:43 Concluding Thoughts and Future Directions
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Apr 1, 2024 • 22min
Navigating Global Talent: A Journey in Business Expansion | Lazy Leverage #23
Wes owns the number 1 and number 3 largest Fast Signs locations in the 750 unit network.
150 local employees.
0 global talent when I met him - now has 17+.
He's become a friend, and we've hired a ton of global talent together.
Smart, crazy person - @wes_kauffman
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Starting with our collaborative efforts in systemizing business processes, we explore Wes's experience in growing Fast Signs franchises across various locations.
From building a team of nearly 17 global members to enhancing operational efficiency and competitiveness, we delve into the strategic utilization of global talent in project management and service delivery optimization.
Sharing insights from Wes's success story in the sign manufacturing sector, we underscore the importance of balancing local and global team members for robust business growth.
Through our conversation, you'll discover:
00:00 Catching Up and Reflecting on Past Collaborations
00:57 The Evolution of a FastSigns Franchise Empire
01:38 Expanding Horizons: Global Talent and Business Growth
02:47 Leveraging Global Talent for Competitive Advantage
04:50 The Transformative Power of Global Talent in Business
07:26 Embracing Global Talent: A Strategy for Success
09:53 Global Talent as a Game Changer in Business Operations
13:40 The Future of Business: Integrating Global Talent
20:05 Practical Advice for Leveraging Global Talent
21:40 Final Thoughts and Looking Ahead
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Mar 22, 2024 • 44min
The Retreat Diaries: Unplugging to Connect | Lazy Leverage #22
Peter and I talk about:
1) How he planned, structured, and implemented his mini "think week"
2) What we are both afraid of when creating more content
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In this episode of Lazy Leverage, Peter and I dive into the enriching practice of the annual solo retreat, a concept inspired by Bill Gates' Think Week. It's a time dedicated to relaxation, reflection, planning, and diving deep into books, all while stepping back from the relentless grip of technology. We explore the powerful strategy of creating a 'do not do' list, drawing inspiration from Warren Buffet to master the art of prioritization and cutting out distractions. Throughout the conversation, we grapple with finding the right equilibrium between generating meaningful content and not getting lost in the quantification of content creation metrics. We also discuss the essential support systems for embarking on such retreats, the profound impact thoughtful content creation can have on audiences, and the personal and professional revelations that emerge from adopting these practices.
Through our conversation, you'll discover:
00:00 Welcome to Lazy Leverage: A Solo Retreat Recap
00:33 The Art of the Solo Retreat: Inspiration and Preparation
01:34 Unplugging and Diving into Books: The Retreat Rituals
02:04 Reflection, Relaxation, and Reading: The Core Goals
02:38 Creating Space for Thought: The Importance of Zero Expectations
03:13 Choosing the Right Reads: Fiction, Non-Fiction, and Favorites
10:18 The Dynamics of Solo Thinking vs. Group Discussion
16:07 The Do Not Do List: Focusing on What Truly Matters
20:38 Navigating Professional Boundaries: The Do Not Do List
21:24 Evaluating Affiliate Deals and Referral Partnerships
21:54 The Importance of Audience Trust and Content Integrity
23:35 Personal Productivity: Email Management Strategies
24:08 Balancing Immediate Tasks with Long-Term Goals
28:05 Reflecting on Business Changes and Future Stability
30:28 The Power of Building an Engaged Audience
32:01 Rethinking Media Strategy and Personal Fears
36:29 Exploring the Potential of Content Creation
42:35 Concluding Thoughts on Content Creation and Personal Growth
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Mar 19, 2024 • 56min
From Operations to Ownership: Scaling Franchise Empires | Lazy Leverage #21
Ben has like 700 people working for him across 10+ locations.
He is sharp as .
We talk about the evolving role of leaders, building leverage, and life as an entrepreneur.
Through our conversation, you'll discover:
00:00 Meet Ben: The Multi-Unit Franchisee Juggling Big Brands
01:26 Exploring the Challenges of Scaling and Efficiency in Franchising
03:01 The Delicate Balance of Delegation, Automation, and Personal Involvement
17:12 Navigating the Complexities of Email Overload and Operational Challenges
03:34 Envisioning the Ideal Operational Model and Personal Involvement
32:29 Navigating Maintenance and Construction Challenges in Business
33:20 The Role of a Director of Construction and Handling Repairs
34:39 Strategies for Managing Inspections and Permits
35:55 Leadership and Resource Allocation: A Marine's Model
38:43 Prioritizing Tasks and Establishing Main Efforts
40:19 Effective Communication and Email Management Strategies
43:32 Implementing Email Triage and Delegation for Efficiency
47:13 Leveraging Overseas Assistance for Email Triage
51:18 Reflections on Business Management and Entrepreneurial Loneliness
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Mar 14, 2024 • 41min
Digital Hustle: Mastering Marketing with Jon & Mike | Lazy Leverage #20
Mike has taught me more about REAL entrepreneurship than anyone other than my Dad.
Mike and I have worked together for almost 7 years, and talk pretty much every day.
He's "never had a real job since he was 18", has had multiple exits, has tried to retire twice but got bored, and is a great friend and mentor.
He has created a new retargeting service, that I am customer of, and has been crushing for us.
Full disclosure - If anyone signs up off my twitter, he has to send me a Lou malnati's Pizza - so I am just shilling at this point.
Love Mike.
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Through our conversation, you'll discover:
00:00 Introduction to Mike Costigan: The Entrepreneurship Mentor
01:12 Learning Digital Marketing and Entrepreneurial Scrappiness
02:02 The Philosophy of Customer Acquisition and Building Relationships
04:18 Embracing the Challenges of Entrepreneurship
16:35 Survival and Success in Business: Lessons from Experience
18:07 Exploring the Power of Retargeting in Digital Marketing
21:41 Exploring the Power of Retargeting
22:03 The Mechanics of Retargeting: How It Works
23:03 The Cost-Effectiveness of Retargeting
23:40 Building a Comprehensive Retargeting Platform
24:23 Leveraging Retargeting for Different Business Models
29:01 Success Stories and the Impact of Retargeting
30:37 Technical Insights and Strategies for Effective Retargeting
35:11 The Future of Business with AI and Retargeting
40:26 Concluding Thoughts on Retargeting and Business Strategy
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Feb 14, 2024 • 50min
Applying Military-Style Debrief & Leadership Tactics to Business | Lazy Leverage #19
In this episode, Christian and I dive into the nuanced world of military-style debriefing and its transformative application in business leadership and operations.
Christian truly stands out in the digital landscape for his insights and experience.
Our discussion extends beyond the mere act of debriefing, touching upon stress management, the essence of communication in critical situations, and the overarching impact of military discipline on commercial success. We dissect the debrief mindset, a crucial learning tool in the military for enhancing future actions and operational efficiency, advocating for its adoption in business practices to refine processes and avert repeat errors.
Our conversation aims to bridge the gap between the rigorous debriefing standards of military operations and the often less structured approach seen in the business environment, highlighting simple yet effective techniques like meeting success ratings as a step towards more disciplined business practices.
Through our conversation, you'll discover:
00:00 - Setting the stage with an introduction to the importance of debriefing in both military and business contexts.
00:00 - Sharing a compelling story of composure and coordination during a helicopter incident.
01:04 - Insights into personal stress management techniques and maintaining calm under pressure.
02:19 - Discussing the critical role of maintaining composure in high-stress situations for effective leadership.
02:59 - The essential aspects of communication and coordination, illustrated through aviation experiences.
03:06 - Reflecting on lessons learned from first mission experiences, emphasizing ownership and control.
05:15 - Exploring the concepts of delegation and intent within leadership frameworks.
06:30 - Delving into strategies for efficient email communication to protect team focus and productivity.
12:49 - The leader's role in safeguarding the team's energy and focus from unnecessary distractions.
18:52 - Analyzing the advantages of membership-based business models over traditional agency structures.
25:55 - Identifying issues within conventional agencies and the evolution towards innovative business models.
26:31 - The challenges and rewards of building a global team and scaling business operations.
36:38 - Emphasizing the significance of debriefing and institutional memory in cultivating high-performance organizations.
39:42 - Advocating for the routine implementation of debriefing practices to enhance team performance and organizational learning.
49:02 - Concluding with a reflection on the pivotal role of debriefing in achieving exceptional business performance.
This episode is a deep dive into the discipline of debriefing and its critical role in driving business excellence. Join Christian and me as we unpack the lessons learned from high-stress military environments and their application to the business world, offering listeners a unique perspective on leadership, communication, and organizational efficiency.
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