
Bothsides Podcast
Dismantling old views, then fencing anew.
Meet: Daniel Beardall of Bothsides Buyers agency, and Kevin Buchanan of Manor Real Estate. Listen to the top 1% and learn how they achieved success.
Produced by Both Sides Media.
Latest episodes

Jul 1, 2025 • 1h 26min
EP 121 | Anthony Bell OAM: Australia’s Most Trusted Advisor to the Elite
In this episode, we sit down with Anthony Bell OAM—Founder and CEO of Bell Partners, one of Australia’s top accounting firms and most respected business figures.A recipient of the Order of Australia Medal, Anthony is a true operator. Known for his loyalty, elite execution, and people-first leadership, he’s built a $100M+ business while serving some of the country’s biggest names—celebrities, high-net-worth individuals, and many of Australia’s leading real estate agencies.In this episode, we unpack the real story behind his success: • What it actually takes to build a $100M+ business • His blueprint for performance, leadership, and staying power in a competitive industry • How he creates loyalty, retention, and a fun, high-performing workplace culture • The hidden cost of success—and what most people never see • His philosophies on money, business, and investing • And how sailing, service, and stillness shaped the man behind the brandAnthony rarely shares this side of his journey. In this raw and honest conversation, he opens up about the pressure, the sacrifices, and what it truly takes to build something great.If you’re an entrepreneur chasing scale, clarity, or legacy—this is a masterclass.Hosted by Daniel Beardall, with special feature Josh Morrissey.

Jun 22, 2025 • 1h 5min
EP 120 | Will Phillips: The Reinvention Blueprint — From Sydney Agent to Byron’s #1
Will Phillips was one of Sydney’s top-performing real estate agents. Then, he walked away from it all.He sold everything. Moved to Byron Bay. And started again—no listings, no clients, no local brand.Within just a few years, he became the #1 agent in Byron and the entire Northern Rivers region.In this episode, Will breaks down the blueprint behind that reinvention:→ Why he left a thriving Sydney career behind→ How pressure drove his early success—and what replaced it→ The power of living below your means→ Systems, habits, and the mindset to rebuild from scratchWhether you’re at the top or at a crossroads, this is a masterclass in clarity, courage, and building aligned success.

Jun 13, 2025 • 39min
EP 119 | Clayton Orrigo – New York’s #1 Agent on Selling $1B a Year with Brand & Precision
Clayton Orrigo is New York’s #1 real estate agent and the co-founder of The Hudson Advisory Team — a business built on precision, brand, and elite execution.In this episode, Clayton breaks down the mindset behind his success:→ Why the highest-paid people are specialists→ The difference between surviving like a machine gun and thriving like a sniper→ How predictability becomes power→ Why “building a brand, not a name” is the key to longevity→ How visualisation, partnership, and boundaries fuel freedomWe also explore how he runs a tight ship, creates space for others to shine, and uses the mantra “Objections in motion stay in motion” to keep momentum alive.This one’s for anyone who’s playing to win — not just in real estate, but in life.Special thanks to Wingman for hosting us at their 2025 AREC stand.

Jun 8, 2025 • 1h 10min
EP 118 | Tobi Pearce: What I Wish I Knew Before Selling for $400M
Tobi Pearce built and exited his first business for $400 million. Now, his new venture is already tracking toward a billion-dollar valuation.But what sets Tobi apart isn’t just the numbers—it’s how he thinks.This episode goes deep into the operating system behind his success. It’s not motivation. It’s strategy. Structure. Systems.What we cover:• Why Tobi defines success before starting anything• How he strips 80% of unnecessary tasks from a calendar• Deep work vs fragmented productivity—how to win the long game• The truth about motivation (and what matters more)• Why top operators stay objective—even under pressure• Build vs partner: how to assess your skill gaps• The question he asks every hire—and why it cuts through fast• How he avoids hype and stays grounded in results• What it means to scale inside your edge, not outside itIf you’re serious about building something real—this mindset is gold.No noise. No fluff. Just frameworks for people who want to win.

Jun 1, 2025 • 1h 44min
EP 117 | Ben Borg: How to Find Your Purpose
What happens when everything you once identified with gets stripped away?In this deeply powerful and personal episode, Dan sits down with spiritual guide and sacred space facilitator Ben Borg to explore his transformation from rugby player to ceremonial healer. Ben shares how a life-altering injury, deep introspection, and experiences with plant medicine in Peru awakened him to a new way of living.They discuss:What "ceremony" really means in a modern contextThe life-changing impact of ayahuasca, wachuma, and breath-workWhy most people live disconnected and how to break freeLetting go of societal conditioning to discover purposeThe power of conscious relationships, fatherhood, and spiritual leadershipWhether you’ve sat in ceremony or are simply curious about the path of self-discovery, this episode will challenge your thinking and open your heart.🎧 Connect with Ben:Instagram: @_sacredbreathoflifeWebsite: www.tealsoulsacredbreathoflife.org

May 25, 2025 • 1h 9min
EP. 116 | Michael Clarke - #2 Ranked Agent in Australia
In this episode, Michael opens up about the raw realities behind elite performance: the setbacks, the lessons, and the power of principled leadership. We unpack how he built Clarke & Humel with his wife and business partner, Cherie, why most agents are marketing to the wrong people, and how deep work, humility, and long-term thinking are the real keys to success.You’ll learn:Why most agents confuse “busy” with productiveThe secret to building trust with prestige clientsHow to crack the luxury market without faking itThe mindset shift that separates good agents from elite onesWhy success is not about flash—but about discipline, service, and self-awarenessWhether you’re an agent, entrepreneur, or just want to understand what real success looks like behind the glamor—this one will hit deep.

May 18, 2025 • 1h 18min
EP. 115 | Josh Morrissey: From $4M GCI to Financial Freedom by 37
From $4M in GCI to financial freedom by 37 — Josh Morrissey didn’t just build a real estate business. He built a life by design.In this powerful episode, Josh opens up about the strategy, identity, and internal drivers that helped him scale Hive into Canberra’s #2 agency — without sacrificing what matters most.We talk about:How he systemised his business and bought his own office building (2 mins from home)The difference between ego-driven growth vs. sustainable, purpose-driven successWealth creation through development, cash flow assets, and commercial propertyHow “time chunking” helps him run a 30-person team while raising 3 kidsThe real story behind his upbringing, forgiveness, and redefining masculinityWhy agents and entrepreneurs must learn to switch fuels — from pain to purposeThis isn’t just a podcast about real estate.It’s about choosing to build the life you actually want to live.

May 12, 2025 • 1h 15min
EP 114 | Invisible Work, Explosive Growth: The Real Journey of Nick Georges and Wingman
What looks like overnight success is often decades in the making.In this episode, we sit down with Nick Georges, Director of Growth at Wingmen — a global enterprise now operating with over 1,000 staff less than two years after launch.But this isn’t just a story about scaling fast. It’s about the 20+ years Nick spent laying the foundation through deep relationship-building, patience, and relentless service — before the opportunity for scale ever appeared.We dive into:- The invisible years that built the man before the brand- How to scale a service business without breaking culture- The emotional cost of switching from PAYG to true entrepreneurship- The philosophy behind Phase 1 (Profit), P hase 2 (Scale), Phase 3 (Protect), and Phase 4 (Tech)- What it takes to lead with vision in a market that only values speed- This is a rare look into the mind of a relationship-driven operator turned global builder — and a reminder that the work you do before the spotlight matters more than the spotlight itself.

May 4, 2025 • 1h 30min
EP 113 | Frank Greeff - What It Takes to Sell for $180M — And Start Again
Frank Greeff returns to the Bothsides podcast for his second appearance, bringing deeper insight and sharper perspective. As a seasoned entrepreneur and strategist, Frank has built and scaled ventures that don’t just aim for growth; they aim for real, measurable impact. In this episode, we unpack what it means to create with purpose, lead with intention, and build systems that move the needle in meaningful ways. Whether you're a founder, a builder, or someone who wants to do work that matters, Frank offers practical wisdom on how to think long-term, act with clarity, and design for change.

Apr 27, 2025 • 1h 15min
EP. 112 | Matt Purcell - Standing Out In a Crowded Market
In this episode, Matt Purcell dives into what it takes to move forward, even when the odds aren't in your favour. He explores why storytelling is crucial for a brand’s message, how to cut through the noise in a crowded market, and the mindset shift required to take action.. even when you don’t have everything figured out. Matt also breaks down why momentum is key and why most people overthink their first step.As the founder of KYU Media, Matt has helped businesses create purpose-driven messaging while building his own journey from the ground up. His insights on branding, marketing, and personal growth are grounded in real-world experience, offering practical wisdom that can help you move forward, whether you’re launching a new project or figuring out what’s next.