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Every Friday and Sunday, Slate’s popular daily news podcast What Next brings you TBD, a clear-eyed look into the future. From fake news to fake meat, algorithms to augmented reality, Lizzie O’Leary is your guide to the tech industry and the world it’s creating for us to live in.
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Oct 14, 2023 • 26min
The $30,000 Zelle Scam
Zelle has exploded in popularity as a fast, convenient way to send and receive money. But the story of a couple who was scammed out of a pool shows there are problems with safety on the platform. Guest: Devin Friedman, journalist and senior correspondent for GQ magazine.You can read Devin’s piece here.If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Dear Prudence—and you’ll be supporting the work we do here on What Next TBD. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to help support our work.Check out Compiler here: https://link.chtbl.com/compiler?sid=podcast.whatnext.2023 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 13, 2023 • 33min
The Israel-Hamas War Instantly Broke X
Casey Newton, founder and editor of the technology newsletter Platformer, discusses the spread of misinformation on X during the Israel-Hamas conflict and the impact of Elon Musk's influence. He suggests alternatives to the flawed concept of X as a global town square and highlights the decline in trusted sources on social media platforms like Twitter. The podcast also addresses challenges of content moderation and the viability of alternative platforms.

Oct 7, 2023 • 27min
The Man Who Turned You Into Data
Hank Asher was a lot of things: a Florida condo maven, a drug runner, a DEA informant—and a tech visionary who created the mixed blessing of turning everyone’s online activity into an unshakable shadow profile.Guest: McKenzie Funk, reporter for Pro Publica and the author of The Hank ShowIf you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Dear Prudence—and you’ll be supporting the work we do here on What Next TBD. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 6, 2023 • 33min
Sam Bankman-Fried—and Crypto—on Trial
As the trial begins, SBF is making the case that what he did is typical in the world of crypto. But when the government paints a much bleaker picture of FTX—one riddled with fraud and deception—what does that say about the industry? Guest: Nitish Pahwa, associate business and tech writer at Slate.If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Dear Prudence—and you’ll be supporting the work we do here on What Next TBD. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 1, 2023 • 31min
Inside Crypto's House of Cards
Investigative reporter Zeke Faux discusses the rise and fall of Sam Bankman-Fried and the unraveling of Tether, a supposedly stable cryptocurrency. The podcast explores the legitimacy of the crypto industry and doubts about future pitches for new coins due to potential fraud.

Sep 30, 2023 • 31min
Who Will Pay For A COVID Vaccine?
After years of being a rare spot of universal, American-government-funded health care, this fall’s new COVID-19 vaccine is hitting the commercial market for the first time. So far, the rollout has been mired by hiccups and confusion. Guest: Jen Kates, senior vice president at KFFIf you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Dear Prudence—and you’ll be supporting the work we do here on What Next TBD. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to help support our work.Podcast production by Evan Campbell and Anna Philips. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 29, 2023 • 29min
Is Amazon a Monopoly?
Amazon evolved from a place to get cheap used books to the “everything store”—one encompassing warehouses, logistics and shipping. But with the FTC now run by Lina Khan—who wrote the essay ‘Amazon’s Antitrust Paradox” while at Yale Law School—a new contender for “antitrust trial of the century” has begun. Guest: Leah Nylen, antitrust reporter for BloombergIf you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Dear Prudence—and you’ll be supporting the work we do here on What Next TBD. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 23, 2023 • 26min
What Instacart’s IPO Means for Tech
As other tech companies that rode the pandemic to success started sinking, Instacart managed to stay above water—they turned a profit and even made it to an IPO. But a stubbornly static stock price has some asking if Instacart—and the whole gig economy—hasn’t already peaked. Guest: Erin Griffith, who reports on tech startups and venture capital for the New York TimesIf you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Dear Prudence—and you’ll be supporting the work we do here on What Next TBD. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 22, 2023 • 25min
Did AirBnB Need to Go?
Guest Heather Tal Murphy, Slate writer covering tech and business, discusses the impact of new laws on short-term rentals in New York City, addressing housing availability and affordability. The podcast explores the consequences of Airbnb on long-term renters and communities, as well as the regulations and implications on short-term rentals in various cities. It also speculates on the future of Airbnb in New York City.

Sep 16, 2023 • 31min
Can Politicians Keep Kids Safe Online?
Richard Blumenthal, senior United States senator from Connecticut, discusses the controversial Kids Online Safety Act and its potential impact on social media platforms. They delve into algorithmic content recommendation, the accountability of social media companies, and the need for regulation to protect minors from harmful content.


