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Latest episodes

Mar 6, 2022 • 38min
Debate: Burgundy vs Bordeaux
Join renowned wine experts Jancis Robinson, Financial Times correspondent and Master of Wine, and Hugh Johnson, celebrated author known for the World Atlas of Wine, as they dive into the fierce rivalry between Burgundy and Bordeaux. Hear personal anecdotes about their wine journeys and discover the distinctive characteristics of each region. The debate heats up with discussions on aging potential, flavor profiles, and market influences, leaving you with a deeper appreciation for these iconic wines and a newfound perspective on this timeless conflict.

Mar 4, 2022 • 39min
The Futureverse: From the Ancients to AI
Dirk Helbing, a Professor of Computational Social Science at ETH Zurich, dives deep into the interplay between technology and humanity's future. He discusses the potential of giant simulators to predict events and prepares us for challenges like climate change. Alongside other experts, they trace the history of future thinking, highlighting ethical implications and the human drive for planning. They also explore the role of science fiction in shaping societal narratives, urging listeners to reflect on diverse experiences as we envision tomorrow.

Mar 3, 2022 • 1h 2min
The Russia-Ukraine Crisis, with Owen Matthews and Radek Sikorski
Owen Matthews, a seasoned journalist and Russia expert, teams up with Radek Sikorski, former foreign minister of Poland, to dive deep into the Russia-Ukraine crisis. They analyze Putin's aggressive military actions in a historical context and discuss the psychological factors at play. The duo also explores China's cautious stance on the conflict and the dynamics of internal power among Putin's circle. With insights into global implications, they shed light on potential outcomes and the strategic responses needed in the face of unprecedented tension in Europe.

Mar 2, 2022 • 43min
The Art of the Scam, with Rachel Williams and Erlend Ofte Arntsen
In this engaging discussion, Rachel Williams, a writer known for her book on Anna Sorokin, and Erlend Ofte Arntsen, an investigative journalist focused on Simon Leviev, delve into the psychology of scams. They explore the allure of charismatic con artists and the societal fascination with their stories. The conversation addresses how social media amplifies these scams, the ethics of true crime adaptations, and the complex dynamics between scammers and their victims. Their insights reveal the troubling but captivating world of deception.

Feb 28, 2022 • 59min
Jackpot: How Gambling Conquered Britain, with Rob Davies
Rob Davies, an investigative journalist with The Guardian and author of "Jackpot," delves into Britain's gambling boom, analyzing the impact of advertising and online targeting that prey on vulnerable groups. He discusses the tragic realities of gambling addiction and its devastating effects on individuals and families. Furthermore, he explores the ethics of MPs' involvement in the gambling industry, the normalization of gambling in sports, and the troubling links between technology, youth engagement, and addiction, alongside the rise of cryptocurrency's role in gambling.

Feb 25, 2022 • 60min
Chasing the Urge: Addiction Throughout History, with Carl Erik Fisher
Carl Erik Fisher, a psychiatrist, bioethicist, and recovering alcoholic, joins physicist Helen Czerski to discuss his book on the history of addiction. They explore addiction as a complex issue intertwined with identity and societal constructs, emphasizing compassion in treatment. Fisher critiques historical perspectives, such as the use of addiction for social control during the opium wars. The duo also examines the changing landscape of recovery, the promise of psychedelics in mental health, and the need for community support and tailored approaches in addressing addiction.

Feb 22, 2022 • 45min
Essays at the Crossroads of Race, with Esi Edugyan
Esi Edugyan, a Canadian novelist celebrated for exploring complex subjects, discusses her nonfiction collection, *Out of the Sun: Essays at the Crossroads of Race*. Alongside curator Aindrea Emelife, they dive into Black identity in art and the power of reshaping historical narratives. Esi reflects on her motivations for revealing hidden histories and the significance of representation in contemporary society. The conversation emphasizes embracing ambiguity and fostering empathy to deepen our understanding of diverse experiences and narratives.

Feb 21, 2022 • 30min
Business Weekly: Counting the Cost of Climate Change, with Kristian Rönn
Kristian Rönn shares insights on the urgent need for businesses to accurately report their environmental impact. He discusses his journey in launching a start-up that provides carbon-accounting software. The conversation highlights the challenges of developing universal carbon footprint standards and the complexities of emissions accounting. Rönn emphasizes the risks of an unregulated ESG market, calling for standardized metrics to ensure genuine sustainability efforts. This engaging dialogue underscores the necessity of understanding and addressing climate change costs in business.

Feb 20, 2022 • 1h 6min
The Sunday Debate: The West Should Seek a Compromise with Russia Over Ukraine
Anatol Lieven, a Senior Research Fellow at the Quincy Institute, shares his insights on the escalating military tensions between Russia and Ukraine. He discusses the complex options for the West, emphasizing the importance of negotiating compromises while respecting Ukrainian sovereignty. The conversation explores historical contexts, the intricate dynamics of the Donbass conflict, and the broader geopolitical implications of Western responses to Russia. Key points revolve around the need for meaningful dialogue and the risks associated with military aggression.

Feb 18, 2022 • 46min
The Gift of a Radio, with Justin Webb
Justin Webb, a prominent BBC journalist and author of The Gift of a Radio, shares his darkly humorous insights on his turbulent upbringing. Discussing his mother's transformative journey and the impact of mental health stigma, he highlights the role of live radio as a companion during childhood loneliness. Webb also reflects on his difficult experiences at a Quaker boarding school, the complexities of familial relationships, and evolving perceptions of masculinity. His candid storytelling reveals the resilience found in navigating trauma.