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Latest episodes

Mar 23, 2022 • 43min
The Animal Queendom: Rethinking Zoology, with Lucy Cooke
Lucy Cooke, a groundbreaking zoologist and author, dives into the often misunderstood roles of female animals in the animal kingdom. She dismantles Charles Darwin's outdated views, highlighting how female moles, meerkats, and killer whales defy the stereotype of passivity. Cooke discusses female dominance, intelligence, and agency in reproduction, showing that females play a vital role in evolution and societal structures. Her insights challenge not only biological myths but also traditional gender roles in human society.

Mar 21, 2022 • 55min
Disorder: Ukraine, Politics and Conflict in the 21st Century, with Helen Thompson
Helen Thompson, a Professor of Political Economy at the University of Cambridge and columnist for The New Statesman, dives into the geopolitical turbulence of the 21st century. She explores how events like Brexit and Trump’s election mark pivotal shifts in global politics. The discussion highlights the frictions between national identity and supranational democracy, and the struggles democracies face in transitioning to cleaner energy. Thompson emphasizes the need for optimism and sacrifice as we navigate intertwined crises of climate, identity, and geopolitical conflict.

Mar 20, 2022 • 41min
The Sunday Debate: Sanctions Won’t Stop Putin
Bill Browder, leader of the Global Magnitsky Justice Campaign and author, discusses targeted sanctions against human rights abusers. Simon Jenkins, a seasoned author and columnist, counters by questioning the overall effectiveness of these sanctions. They dive into how sanctions impact both the oligarchs and ordinary Russians, debating their moral implications and potential to incite internal dissent. The discussion incorporates comparisons with historical cases and explores how sanctions fit into broader international relations.

Mar 18, 2022 • 58min
The Allure of Abandoned Places, with Cal Flyn
Cal Flyn, an award-winning author known for her book *Islands of Abandonment*, shares her fascinating insights on the allure of abandoned places. She discusses how areas like Chernobyl showcase nature's resilience and ability to thrive in the absence of humans. Flyn also examines the ecological significance of decaying sites and the nostalgic memories they evoke. The conversation touches on rewilding efforts and the need to embrace a more nuanced relationship with wildlife, highlighting the balance between human impact and nature's recovery.

Mar 16, 2022 • 54min
No Bullsh*t Leadership, with John Simpson
John Simpson, BBC's World Affairs Editor with over 50 years of frontline reporting, shares his remarkable insights. He reflects on key historical events, including the fall of the Berlin Wall and the Iraq War, where he faced danger firsthand. Simpson discusses the complexities of interviewing dictators versus democratic leaders and highlights the resilience of Ukraine's president in the current crisis. He also emphasizes the vital role of journalism in shaping history and the ethical responsibilities that journalists hold.

Mar 14, 2022 • 42min
The Mystery of Robert Maxwell, with John Preston
John Preston, a journalist and author known for his captivating storytelling and works adapted by Netflix and BBC, dives deep into the life of media mogul Robert Maxwell. He explores Maxwell's transformation from a war hero to a media titan, unpacking the complex dynamics of his family, particularly his relationship with Ghislaine. The discussion highlights his controversial financial practices, political ambitions, and the disputes that shaped his legacy—culminating in his mysterious death and the conflicting views of his life.

Mar 13, 2022 • 1h 4min
The Sunday Debate: The Robots are Coming and They Will Steal Our Livelihoods
Andrew Keen, an internet entrepreneur and author, argues that robots will threaten livelihoods, while Walter Isaacson, a former CNN chairman, and Pippa Malmgren, a technology entrepreneur, counter that AI may create new opportunities. Economist George Magnus highlights the risks of automation leading to job displacement and growing inequality. They discuss historical trends in technology's impact on work, the need for vocational training, and the balance of human creativity in fields like medicine amid technological advancements.

Mar 11, 2022 • 1h
Jon Ronson and David Baddiel on Conspiracies, Culture Wars and How Things Fell Apart
Jon Ronson, acclaimed writer known for his explorative work on conspiracies, teams up with comedian David Baddiel to dive into the chaotic world of culture wars. They discuss the decline of constructive discourse, the impact of social media, and the evolution of outrage, highlighting its consequences. The duo reflects on personal narratives amidst polarized debates, like the complexities of public shaming and identity politics. Together, they unravel how historical events shape current cultural tensions and explore the deep connections formed even in divided times.

Mar 9, 2022 • 1h 18min
Africa to the Americas: Sites of Slavery, Resistance and Civil Rights, with David Harewood and Bonnie Greer
Join Bonnie Greer, a playwright and race advocate; David Harewood, an actor and mental health activist; and John Darlington, conservation expert, as they delve into the rich tapestry of Black history. They discuss the significance of heritage sites tied to slavery and civil rights, underscoring the stories of resistance and resilience. The conversation highlights the importance of preserving these histories to educate future generations, and reflects on identity, community, and the impact of past injustices on contemporary society.

Mar 7, 2022 • 48min
Secrets of the Sprakkar, with Eliza Reid
Eliza Reid, author of "Secrets of the Sprakkar" and Iceland's First Lady, shares insight into the remarkable lives of Icelandic women. She discusses the nation’s progressive gender equality policies, including equal pay laws and parental leave initiatives. The conversation touches on the cultural significance of the term 'sprakkar' and the importance of shared responsibilities at home. Eliza also highlights the challenges women face in corporate leadership roles and the vital need for men to engage in the fight for equality.