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Latest episodes

Oct 1, 2023 • 31min
Putin's Shrinking Circle: Russia after Prigozhin
Mark Galeotti, a leading expert on modern Russia and author of influential works like Putin’s Wars, dives into the fallout from Yevgeny Prigozhin's death. He explores how Putin’s circle is shrinking, revealing cracks in loyalties among security forces and Wagner fighters. The discussion highlights public sentiment's growing disconnect from government narratives and the implications for upcoming elections. Galeotti also addresses the geopolitical tensions stemming from Ukraine's actions and their potential repercussions for Russia's military strategy.

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Sep 30, 2023 • 32min
Whose Word is 'Woke'?
Philosopher Susan Neiman, author of "Left Is Not Woke," joins cultural critic Thomas Chatterton Williams for a thought-provoking discussion. They explore the dangers of confusing wokeism with leftist principles, arguing it undermines long-held progressive values. The conversation touches on how various interpretations of 'woke' influence political identities today, alongside reflections on the pessimism that has overtaken modern discourse. Foucault's impact on contemporary thought also surfaces, emphasizing the need to navigate these complex cultural landscapes.

Sep 28, 2023 • 32min
The New Science Behind Tackling Depression
Join Philip Gold, a leading researcher of depressive illness and author of 'Breaking Through Depression', alongside Güneş Taylor, a science communicator at The Francis Crick Institute. They dissect the complexities of depression, comparing melancholic and atypical forms, and delve into the effects of early trauma. Their discussion introduces innovative treatment approaches, including SSRIs and psychedelics, advocating for a personalized and holistic perspective on mental health that challenges traditional views.

Sep 26, 2023 • 33min
Naomi Klein on Conspiracies, Doppelgangers and Democracy's Demise
Join bestselling author and activist Naomi Klein as she dives into her latest thoughts on mistaken identity with a twist—she's on the trail of her doppelganger, a conspiracy theorist with a surprisingly different worldview. In conversation with journalist Ruchira Sharma, they explore how Mirror World reflects our society's dark turn, where misinformation thrives alongside political extremism. Klein tackles issues like the impact of technology on public perception, the rise of conspiracy theories, and how neglecting disenfranchised communities fuels extremism. Get ready for a thought-provoking ride!

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Sep 24, 2023 • 32min
Mustafa Suleyman on the AI Revolution, Part 2
Mustafa Suleyman, co-founder of DeepMind and Inflection AI, discusses the transformative power of AI and its ethical challenges in society. He argues for proactive government involvement in AI, emphasizing the need for expertise in navigating its rapid advancement. Suleyman also addresses the sustainability of AI development and its potential in fields like education and healthcare. He highlights the importance of collaboration to harness AI's capabilities responsibly, while also tackling the threats posed by deepfakes and synthetic media.

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Sep 23, 2023 • 36min
Mustafa Suleyman on the AI Revolution, Part 1
Mustafa Suleyman, co-founder of DeepMind and Inflection AI, discusses the monumental shifts brought by artificial intelligence. He highlights the rise of generative AI models like ChatGPT and their ethical implications. Suleyman shares his journey from the early days of DeepMind to envisioning personalized AI that enhances our daily lives. The conversation also addresses the rapid evolution of AI in sectors such as agriculture and healthcare, while emphasizing the need for ethical governance amid global tensions. His insights from 'The Coming Wave' are thought-provoking.

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Sep 21, 2023 • 37min
John Gray and David Runciman on Finding Meaning in a Post-Liberal World
John Gray, a leading critic of liberalism known for his realist perspectives, joins David Runciman, a political scientist and educator at Cambridge. They unpack themes from Gray’s book, exploring Hobbes' insights on human authority and the flaws of liberalism. The duo discusses humanity's collective identity amidst globalization and critiques hyperliberalism as a misguided doctrine. Their conversation delves into how literature, especially Russian works, reflects the fragility of liberal beliefs and the potential societal dangers of radical ideological movements.

Sep 20, 2023 • 38min
Politics in the Age of Chaos with Rafael Behr
Explore the emotional toll on journalists in tumultuous political times, including personal health scares and their impact on political perspectives. Delve into the challenging dynamics of identity and nationalism in British politics, as well as the influence of social media on public discourse. Engage with thoughts on navigating despair amid global crises like climate change. Finally, contemplate the resilience of democracy in chaotic landscapes and the potential for positive change against authoritarianism.

Sep 17, 2023 • 40min
Trash Talk: The Dirty Truth About What We Throw Away
Oliver Franklin-Wallis, award-winning journalist and author of 'Wasteland,' dives into the grim realities of the global waste industry. He discusses Britain's overflowing sewers and the impact of textile waste on communities in Ghana. The conversation also covers the hidden truths of recycling and encourages a rethink of our consumption habits. Dr. Güneş Taylor joins him, further emphasizing our responsibility in tackling pollution and adapting to a throwaway culture. Together, they champion a more proactive approach to waste management.

Sep 16, 2023 • 1h 4min
Debate: The Battle for the Countryside, with George Monbiot and Rory Stewart
George Monbiot, a Guardian columnist and environmental advocate, champions rewilding Britain's uplands, arguing it supports biodiversity and sustainable tourism. Opposing him is Rory Stewart, a former government minister, who emphasizes the cultural importance of traditional farming. Minette Batters, president of the National Farmers' Union, shares insights on the economic challenges faced by farmers, while naturalist Mark Cocker highlights the ecological benefits of rewilding. The debate passionately explores the balance between nature preservation and human livelihoods.