Brain Driven Brands

Sarah Levinger
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Feb 11, 2025 • 26min

Boomers Buy…But Not Like THAT (GM101)

Boomers have all the money, but most marketers have no idea how to sell to them. If you’ve ever wondered why your “cutting-edge” ad campaigns are getting ghosted by the 55+ crowd, this episode is for you. Sarah and Nate break down exactly why traditional marketing doesn’t work on Boomers—and what actually does. From why they still read long-form copy (yes, even the About Us page) to why a missing phone number on your site makes them assume you're running a scam, this episode is a hilarious yet practical guide to unlocking the $4.4 trillion Boomer buying power. What You’ll Learn: ✔ Why Boomers don’t trust trendy marketing tactics ✔ How to write ads they actually read (hint: use less emojis) ✔ Why customer service is a non-negotiable dealbreaker ✔ The secret to making them think it was their idea to buy all along Boomers don’t like being sold to, but they love making smart purchases. Tune in to learn how to make your brand Boomer-proof (and actually profitable). 🎯 Action Step: Audit your website and fix one of these mistakes today—your future Boomer customers will thank you. CoHost: Nate Lagos Twitter: https://x.com/natelagos LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natelagos/ Tactical and Practical Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tactical-practical/id1752915534   Learn more at: https://www.tetherinsights.io/ Twitter: https://x.com/SarahLevinger Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahlevinger/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sarah.levinger/ Watch me on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKwfjt_7PU5N_2fTfHemXXg   Thanks to Cytrus for the theme song, “Sky High” You can follow and find them on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/track/1oKGDsxjRdQlf2xHLZsiSJ?si=8fbd275dbbb54cbf  
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Feb 6, 2025 • 32min

7 Things You Need to Stop Thinking as a Marketer (WL&WDJ)

In this episode, Sarah and Nate get real…we’re diving into some of the biggest marketing blunders, misconceptions, and downright incorrect beliefs that all of us in DTC either used to believe, or currently have so you can avoid the mistakes that will make it harder to grow. CoHost: Nate Lagos Twitter: https://x.com/natelagos LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natelagos/ Tactical and Practical Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tactical-practical/id1752915534   Learn more at: https://www.tetherinsights.io/ Twitter: https://x.com/SarahLevinger Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahlevinger/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sarah.levinger/ Watch me on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKwfjt_7PU5N_2fTfHemXXg   Thanks to Cytrus for the theme song, “Sky High” You can follow and find them on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/track/1oKGDsxjRdQlf2xHLZsiSJ?si=8fbd275dbbb54cbf  
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Feb 4, 2025 • 19min

Hey Guy, We Need to Talk…(About Generating Market Demand)

“Good product generates demand!” FALSE - good product is just a byproduct of demand, and we can prove it. In this episode, Sarah challenges Nate’s view on generating market demand and we go DEEP into what market tides are going to do next (hint: behavior is cyclical…everything comes back around). Tweet: https://x.com/SarahLevinger/status/1882471014891651280 CoHost: Nate Lagos Twitter: https://x.com/natelagos LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natelagos/ Tactical and Practical Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tactical-practical/id1752915534   Learn more at: https://www.tetherinsights.io/ Twitter: https://x.com/SarahLevinger Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahlevinger/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sarah.levinger/ Watch me on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKwfjt_7PU5N_2fTfHemXXg   Thanks to Cytrus for the theme song, “Sky High” You can follow and find them on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/track/1oKGDsxjRdQlf2xHLZsiSJ?si=8fbd275dbbb54cbf  
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Jan 30, 2025 • 23min

One Word to [Convert] Them All: Here’s What It Is!

In this episode of Brian Driven Brands, Sarah quizzes Nate on a 1970’s study around the simple word that gets people to say “yes” 94% of the time! 🤯 We also dive into how Nate’s going to use this in his ads this week as well as one place where he’s already using it…and didn’t even know it. Tweet: https://x.com/SarahLevinger/status/1881426663348523405 Jame’s Clear research: https://jamesclear.com/copy-machine-study CoHost: Nate Lagos Twitter: https://x.com/natelagos LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natelagos/ Tactical and Practical Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tactical-practical/id1752915534 Learn more at: https://www.tetherinsights.io/ Twitter: https://x.com/SarahLevinger Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahlevinger/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sarah.levinger/ Watch me on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKwfjt_7PU5N_2fTfHemXXg   Thanks to Cytrus for the theme song, “Sky High” You can follow and find them on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/track/1oKGDsxjRdQlf2xHLZsiSJ?si=8fbd275dbbb54cbf  
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Jan 28, 2025 • 26min

DON’T Market Your App Until You Listen to THIS!

Biggest problem for apps - you can’t show transformation…you can only show features. So what should an app founder do to grow their brand? In this episode, Sarah and guest Aazar Shad break down the reality for most app brands (spoiler, it’s a freaking hard industry to be in) and chat angles that will not only bypass the brain’s natural desire to skip non-video ads, but also tap into what your customers want most. Sarah also uncovers a new message that might help one app brand unlock the growth they’ve been looking for for years…Even if you’re not in apps, you’ll want to listen to this one! Guest: Aazar Shad Twitter: https://x.com/AazarshadNewsletter: https://www.blog.theperformers.io/ Learn more at: https://www.tetherinsights.io/ Twitter: https://x.com/SarahLevinger Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahlevinger/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sarah.levinger/ Watch me on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKwfjt_7PU5N_2fTfHemXXg   Thanks to Cytrus for the theme song, “Sky High” You can follow and find them on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/track/1oKGDsxjRdQlf2xHLZsiSJ?si=8fbd275dbbb54cbf  
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Jan 23, 2025 • 8min

PART 2 Can Sarah Craft an Ad That Converts in Real Time?

Sarah puts her skills to the test! In this episode of Brain Driven brands, Sarah interviews a consumer (Consumer Casey), breaks down his deepest desires for a brand, then crafts a sales pitch based on this real-time data in an action-packed showdown that pits marketer against consumer….in other words, will Casey buy? Or will Sarah’s marketing chops fail?   CoHost: Nate Lagos Twitter: https://x.com/natelagos LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natelagos/ Tactical and Practical Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tactical-practical/id1752915534   Learn more at: https://www.tetherinsights.io/ Twitter: https://x.com/SarahLevinger Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahlevinger/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sarah.levinger/ Watch me on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKwfjt_7PU5N_2fTfHemXXg   Thanks to Cytrus for the theme song, “Sky High” You can follow and find them on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/track/1oKGDsxjRdQlf2xHLZsiSJ?si=8fbd275dbbb54cbf  
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Jan 21, 2025 • 25min

Can Sarah Craft an Ad That Converts in Real Time?

Sarah puts her skills to the test! In this episode of Brain Driven brands, Sarah interviews a consumer (Consumer Casey), breaks down his deepest desires for a brand, then crafts a sales pitch based on this real-time data in an action-packed showdown that pits marketer against consumer….in other words, will Casey buy? Or will Sarah’s marketing chops fail?   CoHost: Nate Lagos Twitter: https://x.com/natelagos LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natelagos/ Tactical and Practical Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tactical-practical/id1752915534   Learn more at: https://www.tetherinsights.io/ Twitter: https://x.com/SarahLevinger Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahlevinger/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sarah.levinger/ Watch me on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKwfjt_7PU5N_2fTfHemXXg   Thanks to Cytrus for the theme song, “Sky High” You can follow and find them on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/track/1oKGDsxjRdQlf2xHLZsiSJ?si=8fbd275dbbb54cbf  
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Jan 16, 2025 • 22min

This Easy Psych Hack Could Increase Your Sales by 22%

We’re back with a quiz this week! Sarah quizzes Nate on a new psychology tactic, one that could increase your sales by 22%! And spoiler: it’s something you already have access to and can run in an ad in the next 10 minutes…   CoHost: Nate Lagos Twitter: https://x.com/natelagos LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natelagos/ Tactical and Practical Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tactical-practical/id1752915534   Learn more at: https://www.tetherinsights.io/ Twitter: https://x.com/SarahLevinger Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahlevinger/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sarah.levinger/ Watch me on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKwfjt_7PU5N_2fTfHemXXg   Thanks to Cytrus for the theme song, “Sky High” You can follow and find them on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/track/1oKGDsxjRdQlf2xHLZsiSJ?si=8fbd275dbbb54cbf  
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Jan 14, 2025 • 27min

Your Customer Avatar Is Wrong (But Don’t Worry, So Is Everyone Else’s)

In today’s episode, Sarah roasts the shit out of Nate’s customer avatar to show you the real reason why most brands have to spend millions of dollars on advertising just to make ends meet. We also dive into why the traditional customer avatar playbook is broken, the step-by-step process to truly understand your audience, and how you can craft a messaging strategy that actually resonates. Get ready for actionable tips, plenty of laughs, and a few hard truths about the marketing industry’s laziest habits. CoHost: Nate Lagos Twitter: https://x.com/natelagos LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natelagos/ Tactical and Practical Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tactical-practical/id1752915534   Learn more at: https://www.tetherinsights.io/ Twitter: https://x.com/SarahLevinger Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahlevinger/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sarah.levinger/ Watch me on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKwfjt_7PU5N_2fTfHemXXg   Thanks to Cytrus for the theme song, “Sky High” You can follow and find them on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/track/1oKGDsxjRdQlf2xHLZsiSJ?si=8fbd275dbbb54cbf  
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Jan 2, 2025 • 24min

The Illusion of Data: Why Customers Don’t Behave the Way Numbers Predict

  We all trust data to predict customer behavior…but what if the numbers are straight up lying? In this episode, Nate and Sarah dive deep into why customers often defy what metrics predict and explore the hidden emotional and psychological drivers behind their decisions.   CoHost: Nate Lagos Twitter: https://x.com/natelagos LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natelagos/ Tactical and Practical Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tactical-practical/id1752915534   Learn more at: https://www.tetherinsights.io/ Twitter: https://x.com/SarahLevinger Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahlevinger/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sarah.levinger/ Watch me on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKwfjt_7PU5N_2fTfHemXXg   Thanks to Cytrus for the theme song, “Sky High” You can follow and find them on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/track/1oKGDsxjRdQlf2xHLZsiSJ?si=8fbd275dbbb54cbf  

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