
Brain Driven Brands
Host Sarah Levinger breaks down the advanced neuromarketing secrets of 9-figure brands (like True Classic, Spotify, and Plants vs. Zombies) to show you psychology tactics any e-commerce brand can use today to cut costs, boost sales, and captivate the masses.
Latest episodes

Jan 30, 2025 • 23min
One Word to [Convert] Them All: Here’s What It Is!
In this episode of Brian Driven Brands, Sarah quizzes Nate on a 1970’s study around the simple word that gets people to say “yes” 94% of the time! 🤯 We also dive into how Nate’s going to use this in his ads this week as well as one place where he’s already using it…and didn’t even know it. Tweet: https://x.com/SarahLevinger/status/1881426663348523405 Jame’s Clear research: https://jamesclear.com/copy-machine-study CoHost: Nate Lagos Twitter: https://x.com/natelagos LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natelagos/ Tactical and Practical Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tactical-practical/id1752915534 Learn more at: https://www.tetherinsights.io/ Twitter: https://x.com/SarahLevinger Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahlevinger/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sarah.levinger/ Watch me on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKwfjt_7PU5N_2fTfHemXXg Thanks to Cytrus for the theme song, “Sky High” You can follow and find them on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/track/1oKGDsxjRdQlf2xHLZsiSJ?si=8fbd275dbbb54cbf

Jan 28, 2025 • 26min
DON’T Market Your App Until You Listen to THIS!
Biggest problem for apps - you can’t show transformation…you can only show features. So what should an app founder do to grow their brand? In this episode, Sarah and guest Aazar Shad break down the reality for most app brands (spoiler, it’s a freaking hard industry to be in) and chat angles that will not only bypass the brain’s natural desire to skip non-video ads, but also tap into what your customers want most. Sarah also uncovers a new message that might help one app brand unlock the growth they’ve been looking for for years…Even if you’re not in apps, you’ll want to listen to this one! Guest: Aazar Shad Twitter: https://x.com/AazarshadNewsletter: https://www.blog.theperformers.io/ Learn more at: https://www.tetherinsights.io/ Twitter: https://x.com/SarahLevinger Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahlevinger/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sarah.levinger/ Watch me on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKwfjt_7PU5N_2fTfHemXXg Thanks to Cytrus for the theme song, “Sky High” You can follow and find them on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/track/1oKGDsxjRdQlf2xHLZsiSJ?si=8fbd275dbbb54cbf

Jan 23, 2025 • 8min
PART 2 Can Sarah Craft an Ad That Converts in Real Time?
Sarah puts her skills to the test! In this episode of Brain Driven brands, Sarah interviews a consumer (Consumer Casey), breaks down his deepest desires for a brand, then crafts a sales pitch based on this real-time data in an action-packed showdown that pits marketer against consumer….in other words, will Casey buy? Or will Sarah’s marketing chops fail? CoHost: Nate Lagos Twitter: https://x.com/natelagos LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natelagos/ Tactical and Practical Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tactical-practical/id1752915534 Learn more at: https://www.tetherinsights.io/ Twitter: https://x.com/SarahLevinger Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahlevinger/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sarah.levinger/ Watch me on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKwfjt_7PU5N_2fTfHemXXg Thanks to Cytrus for the theme song, “Sky High” You can follow and find them on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/track/1oKGDsxjRdQlf2xHLZsiSJ?si=8fbd275dbbb54cbf

Jan 21, 2025 • 25min
Can Sarah Craft an Ad That Converts in Real Time?
Sarah puts her skills to the test! In this episode of Brain Driven brands, Sarah interviews a consumer (Consumer Casey), breaks down his deepest desires for a brand, then crafts a sales pitch based on this real-time data in an action-packed showdown that pits marketer against consumer….in other words, will Casey buy? Or will Sarah’s marketing chops fail? CoHost: Nate Lagos Twitter: https://x.com/natelagos LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natelagos/ Tactical and Practical Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tactical-practical/id1752915534 Learn more at: https://www.tetherinsights.io/ Twitter: https://x.com/SarahLevinger Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahlevinger/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sarah.levinger/ Watch me on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKwfjt_7PU5N_2fTfHemXXg Thanks to Cytrus for the theme song, “Sky High” You can follow and find them on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/track/1oKGDsxjRdQlf2xHLZsiSJ?si=8fbd275dbbb54cbf

Jan 16, 2025 • 22min
This Easy Psych Hack Could Increase Your Sales by 22%
We’re back with a quiz this week! Sarah quizzes Nate on a new psychology tactic, one that could increase your sales by 22%! And spoiler: it’s something you already have access to and can run in an ad in the next 10 minutes… CoHost: Nate Lagos Twitter: https://x.com/natelagos LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natelagos/ Tactical and Practical Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tactical-practical/id1752915534 Learn more at: https://www.tetherinsights.io/ Twitter: https://x.com/SarahLevinger Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahlevinger/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sarah.levinger/ Watch me on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKwfjt_7PU5N_2fTfHemXXg Thanks to Cytrus for the theme song, “Sky High” You can follow and find them on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/track/1oKGDsxjRdQlf2xHLZsiSJ?si=8fbd275dbbb54cbf

Jan 14, 2025 • 27min
Your Customer Avatar Is Wrong (But Don’t Worry, So Is Everyone Else’s)
In today’s episode, Sarah roasts the shit out of Nate’s customer avatar to show you the real reason why most brands have to spend millions of dollars on advertising just to make ends meet. We also dive into why the traditional customer avatar playbook is broken, the step-by-step process to truly understand your audience, and how you can craft a messaging strategy that actually resonates. Get ready for actionable tips, plenty of laughs, and a few hard truths about the marketing industry’s laziest habits. CoHost: Nate Lagos Twitter: https://x.com/natelagos LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natelagos/ Tactical and Practical Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tactical-practical/id1752915534 Learn more at: https://www.tetherinsights.io/ Twitter: https://x.com/SarahLevinger Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahlevinger/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sarah.levinger/ Watch me on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKwfjt_7PU5N_2fTfHemXXg Thanks to Cytrus for the theme song, “Sky High” You can follow and find them on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/track/1oKGDsxjRdQlf2xHLZsiSJ?si=8fbd275dbbb54cbf

Jan 2, 2025 • 24min
The Illusion of Data: Why Customers Don’t Behave the Way Numbers Predict
We all trust data to predict customer behavior…but what if the numbers are straight up lying? In this episode, Nate and Sarah dive deep into why customers often defy what metrics predict and explore the hidden emotional and psychological drivers behind their decisions. CoHost: Nate Lagos Twitter: https://x.com/natelagos LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natelagos/ Tactical and Practical Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tactical-practical/id1752915534 Learn more at: https://www.tetherinsights.io/ Twitter: https://x.com/SarahLevinger Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahlevinger/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sarah.levinger/ Watch me on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKwfjt_7PU5N_2fTfHemXXg Thanks to Cytrus for the theme song, “Sky High” You can follow and find them on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/track/1oKGDsxjRdQlf2xHLZsiSJ?si=8fbd275dbbb54cbf

Dec 31, 2024 • 26min
7 Customer Insights That Are Actually Holding Your Brand Back
Are your customer insights actually hurting your brand? In this episode, we uncover 7 common "truths" marketers believe about their customers that might be holding you back—from overvaluing NPS to misreading pricing data—and reveal how psychology can fix them. If you’ve ever felt like your marketing metrics don’t match reality, this episode for you. CoHost: Nate Lagos Twitter: https://x.com/natelagos LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natelagos/ Tactical and Practical Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tactical-practical/id1752915534 Learn more at: https://www.tetherinsights.io/ Twitter: https://x.com/SarahLevinger Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahlevinger/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sarah.levinger/ Watch me on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKwfjt_7PU5N_2fTfHemXXg Thanks to Cytrus for the theme song, “Sky High” You can follow and find them on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/track/1oKGDsxjRdQlf2xHLZsiSJ?si=8fbd275dbbb54cbf

Dec 24, 2024 • 18min
Your 'Limited-Time Offer' Isn't Fooling Anyone
Less “limited time offers”, more “limited product available” - that’s the premise of today’s episode! Sarah’s diving into new research that shows just how limiting our “limited time offers” are for brands, and what to do in 2025 instead. Tweet: https://x.com/SarahLevinger/status/1866913242582257875 CoHost: Nate Lagos Twitter: https://x.com/natelagos LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natelagos/ Tactical and Practical Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tactical-practical/id1752915534 Learn more at: https://www.tetherinsights.io/ Twitter: https://x.com/SarahLevinger Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahlevinger/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sarah.levinger/ Watch me on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKwfjt_7PU5N_2fTfHemXXg Thanks to Cytrus for the theme song, “Sky High” You can follow and find them on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/track/1oKGDsxjRdQlf2xHLZsiSJ?si=8fbd275dbbb54cbf

Dec 19, 2024 • 28min
Lego Made $9.8B Using this One Simple Marketing Hack
On this episode of Brain Driven Brands, Sarah and Nate break down one of the most interesting brand “comebacks” in history. We also create a brand marketing plan for Original Grain (and poke holes in all of Nate’s plans for next year), and discuss why brands shy away from brand marketing…as well as how to dominate with it. Tweet: https://x.com/SarahLevinger/status/1867255989835059322 CoHost: Nate Lagos Twitter: https://x.com/natelagos LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natelagos/ Tactical and Practical Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tactical-practical/id1752915534 Learn more at: https://www.tetherinsights.io/ Twitter: https://x.com/SarahLevinger Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahlevinger/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sarah.levinger/ Watch me on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKwfjt_7PU5N_2fTfHemXXg Thanks to Cytrus for the theme song, “Sky High” You can follow and find them on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/track/1oKGDsxjRdQlf2xHLZsiSJ?si=8fbd275dbbb54cbf
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