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May 1, 2025 • 26min

People Are Not Price Sensitive. They Are Perception Sensitive.

On this episode of Brain Driven Brands, Sarah and Nate do a workshop for a brand who put a call out for help on Twitter…with some surprising results. We break down the number one reason why most brands will fail in the next 2-3 years (hint, it’s not because you’re prices are too high…it’s actually the exact opposite), and dive deep into perception theory to help this brand go from super stuck to scaling high.   CoHost: Nate Lagos Twitter: https://x.com/natelagos LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natelagos/ Tactical and Practical Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tactical-practical/id1752915534   Learn more at: https://www.tetherinsights.io/ Twitter: https://x.com/SarahLevinger Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahlevinger/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sarah.levinger/ Watch me on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKwfjt_7PU5N_2fTfHemXXg   Thanks to Cytrus for the theme song, “Sky High” You can follow and find them on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/track/1oKGDsxjRdQlf2xHLZsiSJ?si=8fbd275dbbb54cbf
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Apr 29, 2025 • 28min

Real Science or Total Scam? A Game for Marketing Nerds

Sarah and Nate are back with a lightening round that will put Nate’s knowledge of psychology to the test! We dive into heuristics (mental shortcuts) and do a bonus round on a little-known mental bias that might have Nate stumped…   CoHost: Nate Lagos Twitter: https://x.com/natelagos LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natelagos/ Tactical and Practical Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tactical-practical/id1752915534   Learn more at: https://www.tetherinsights.io/ Twitter: https://x.com/SarahLevinger Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahlevinger/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sarah.levinger/ Watch me on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKwfjt_7PU5N_2fTfHemXXg   Thanks to Cytrus for the theme song, “Sky High” You can follow and find them on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/track/1oKGDsxjRdQlf2xHLZsiSJ?si=8fbd275dbbb54cbf  
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Apr 24, 2025 • 25min

Get People to Pay 35% More By Using THIS Psych-Tactic

In this episode, Sarah and Nate unpack a surprisingly simple psychological switch that leads people to spend 35% more—without discounts, gimmicks, or aggressive upsells. If you’ve ever written a headline, built a landing page, or tried to justify a premium price—this episode might just change how you sell forever. ( Hint: It’s not about being vague or clear. It’s about when you’re being vague or clear.) Source: https://app.sciencesays.com/p/adapt-language-to-brand-distance   CoHost: Nate Lagos Twitter: https://x.com/natelagos LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natelagos/ Tactical and Practical Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tactical-practical/id1752915534   Learn more at: https://www.tetherinsights.io/ Twitter: https://x.com/SarahLevinger Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahlevinger/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sarah.levinger/ Watch me on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKwfjt_7PU5N_2fTfHemXXg   Thanks to Cytrus for the theme song, “Sky High” You can follow and find them on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/track/1oKGDsxjRdQlf2xHLZsiSJ?si=8fbd275dbbb54cbf  
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Apr 10, 2025 • 21min

He Wanted a Ford. He Bought a Range Rover. What Happened?

It this episode, we walk through the story of Nate—a customer who walked into the dealership craving nostalgia, heritage, and the familiar comfort of a classic Ford. But he drove away in a Range Rover. Why? In this episode, we dissect the identity shifts that quietly hijacked Nate’s decision in real time. You’ll learn: The subconscious identity conflict that made Ford feel right—but Range Rover feel necessary How brands lose sales not because of features, but because they fail to speak to the right version of the customer Why Ford could have saved this sale—if they knew which identities were activated and how to speak to them What this means for any brand trying to turn browsers into buyers If you’ve ever lost a customer to a brand that seemed like a weird fit, this story will hit home—and help you never let it happen again.   CoHost: Nate Lagos Twitter: https://x.com/natelagos LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natelagos/ Tactical and Practical Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tactical-practical/id1752915534   Learn more at: https://www.tetherinsights.io/ Twitter: https://x.com/SarahLevinger Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahlevinger/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sarah.levinger/ Watch me on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKwfjt_7PU5N_2fTfHemXXg   Thanks to Cytrus for the theme song, “Sky High” You can follow and find them on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/track/1oKGDsxjRdQlf2xHLZsiSJ?si=8fbd275dbbb54cbf  
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Apr 8, 2025 • 26min

The Orange is a Lie: How a Vitamin Deficiency Built an Empire

Apples had the head start, a catchy slogan, and decades of trust. So how did oranges swoop in, steal breakfast, and build a billion-dollar juice empire? In this episode, Sarah and Nate break down the biggest fruit war in history—a juicy battle of marketing, identity, and manufactured need. You'll hear: 🍏 Why apples lost, even with “an apple a day” as a slogan. 🍊 How orange growers invented a crisis—and then sold the cure 🧠 The psychological trick that turned a seasonal fruit into a daily ritual ⚔️ The real reason oranges won the war (hint: it wasn’t taste) And most importantly: how modern brands can steal the same playbook today.   CoHost: Nate Lagos Twitter: https://x.com/natelagos LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natelagos/ Tactical and Practical Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tactical-practical/id1752915534   Learn more at: https://www.tetherinsights.io/ Twitter: https://x.com/SarahLevinger Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahlevinger/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sarah.levinger/ Watch me on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKwfjt_7PU5N_2fTfHemXXg   Thanks to Cytrus for the theme song, “Sky High” You can follow and find them on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/track/1oKGDsxjRdQlf2xHLZsiSJ?si=8fbd275dbbb54cbf  
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Apr 3, 2025 • 18min

The Tattoo Test: Can Nate Build a Brand Worth Bleeding For?

In a playful and intense brand-building challenge, cohost Nate faces the Tattoo Test, where he must prove his brand's dedication potential. They explore how creating customer rituals can deepen engagement and discuss crafting a memorable tagline that signifies brand identity. The hosts humorously measure brand loyalty by questioning how far consumers would go for their favorite brands. A rapid-fire game categorizes brands as ‘tattoo’ or ‘trash,’ revealing insights into meaningful branding in today’s market.
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Apr 1, 2025 • 24min

Want to Boost Product Ratings by 32%? DO THIS!!

What if one tiny shift in your ads could increase the ratings of your products? In this episode, Sarah and Nate reveal the underrated psychology tactic that boosted product satisfaction by 32% in live tests. This one’s fast, practical, and immediately useful. If you're stuck in performance purgatory, this is your way out. Source: https://app.sciencesays.com/p/where-being-creative-truly-matters   CoHost: Nate Lagos Twitter: https://x.com/natelagos LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natelagos/ Tactical and Practical Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tactical-practical/id1752915534   Learn more at: https://www.tetherinsights.io/ Twitter: https://x.com/SarahLevinger Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahlevinger/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sarah.levinger/ Watch me on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKwfjt_7PU5N_2fTfHemXXg   Thanks to Cytrus for the theme song, “Sky High” You can follow and find them on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/track/1oKGDsxjRdQlf2xHLZsiSJ?si=8fbd275dbbb54cbf  
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Mar 27, 2025 • 24min

How to Sell to Generation X (and Not Get Cancelled)

Dive into the fascinating world of Generation X, the often overlooked powerhouse of consumers. Discover their unique shopping habits and how nostalgia drives their purchasing decisions. Learn why they're more habit-loyal than brand-loyal and uncover the secrets to selling to them effortlessly. The hosts humorously reminisce about Dairy Queen's charm and share insights on leveraging 90s culture to spark emotional connections. It's all about targeting the generation that's truly making waves in the market!
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Mar 20, 2025 • 31min

Sarah’s Super Secret Chat Prompt + Nate’s Discovery

In this episode, we get a sneak peek into one of Sarah’s newest projects (the BPE) and dissect what Original Grain is doing right…and what they’re still missing - more specifically, the killer positioning play they’re missing out on! We’ll use the BPE to break down: The biggest gap in their brand strategy (and how most brands fall into the same trap). Why "handcrafted" and/or “craftsmanship” isn’t a strong enough selling point anymore (and what works instead). How to build a true brand enemy—and why fighting The Disposable Age could make Original Grain unforgettable. Messaging tweaks that instantly make a brand feel bigger, bolder, and more ownable. If you’ve ever wondered how to take a “good” brand and make it truly category-defining, this episode is a masterclass. CoHost: Nate Lagos Twitter: https://x.com/natelagos LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natelagos/ Tactical and Practical Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tactical-practical/id1752915534   Learn more at: https://www.tetherinsights.io/ Twitter: https://x.com/SarahLevinger Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahlevinger/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sarah.levinger/ Watch me on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKwfjt_7PU5N_2fTfHemXXg   Thanks to Cytrus for the theme song, “Sky High” You can follow and find them on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/track/1oKGDsxjRdQlf2xHLZsiSJ?si=8fbd275dbbb54cbf  
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Mar 18, 2025 • 34min

3 Ways to Sell a Lifestyle, Not a Product

Kevin Luby, Founder of High Camp Flasks, discusses the art of selling a lifestyle instead of just products. He reveals how brands can resonate with consumers by aligning with their identities, especially in the outdoor market. The conversation dives into the distinction between growth and brand identity, sharing insights on community-building and luxury branding. Luby emphasizes the importance of authentic marketing and creating memorable connections that not only showcase products but also reflect deeper consumer desires and experiences.

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