
The Psychedelic Podcast
The Psychedelic Podcast connects you to the leaders and pioneers of the psychedelic renaissance.
From deep healing to creativity, leadership to spirituality, business, health, human performance, relationships, sexuality, and even culture itself—every aspect of our world is being transformed by psychedelic medicines.
Get an inspired, informed, balanced look into how these powerful medicines are already being safely and responsibly used to catalyze both personal and collective transformation.
Whether you’re just curious or a seasoned psychonaut, or somewhere in between, you’ll get insightful, practical, cutting-edge conversations from the forefront of the psychedelic movement.
Join us as we explore how psychedelics can be integrated into culture for the evolution of humanity.
Latest episodes

Oct 30, 2023 • 1h 21min
Lauren Mugglebee - Beyond Safe Harbor: Psychedelics, Coaching, & Self-Actualization
In this Psychedelic Podcast episode, co-host Joseph Anew and leadership coach Lauren Mugglebee unpack self-actualization through psychedelics and embodied coaching. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-219-lauren-mugglebee/ Joseph and Lauren examine questions like: What would you do if you had the time and space to think about who you really are? Why are coaches pivotal in your growth? What role does courage play in transformation? And how can microdosing, embodiment, and community support the process? Tune in for a talk about sailing away from life’s safe harbors and flowing into the authentic unknown. Lauren Mugglebee: Lauren Mugglebee is an executive and leadership coach, and a transformational practitioner and facilitator. In addition to her private practice, Lauren is a Third Wave Psychedelic Coaching Institute faculty member. Lauren uses a variety of somatic and integral modalities in her practice—including pairing inquiry and non-ordinary states of consciousness—to help leaders achieve radical self-awareness and presence. A US native and British citizen, she lives with her partner and young daughters in Northern California, where she teaches and designs bespoke intensives, training, and retreats for engaging emergence. Before coaching, Lauren spent two decades developing technical products and leading global teams for Facebook, Instagram, OpenTable, and Ticketmaster. Highlights: Lauren’s evolution from tech to transformational and leadership coaching. How psychedelics helped Lauren align her life and career. How embodied intuition can be a powerful decision-making tool. Cultivating the courage to “leave safe harbor.” Lauren’s advice for transitioning into a more fulfilling career. Lauren’s transformation coaching process and core clients. Lessons from Lauren’s participation in Third Wave’s Coaching Certification Program (CCP). CCP’s evolution toward executive and high-performance coaching. Key Links: Lauren’s private practice: https://www.laurenmugglebee.com/ Third Wave’s Psychedelic Coaching Institute (PCI): https://psychedeliccoaching.institute/ Episode Sponsors: BiOptimizers - Use code THIRDWAVE for their Black Friday Mega Sale! Magi Ancestral Supplements - Visit ancestralmagi.com and use coupon code TW10. Join us at Wonderland Conference in Miami, Nov. 9-11th! Head to wonderlandconference.com/ and use the code THIRDWAVE20 at checkout to save 20% on your ticket.

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Oct 23, 2023 • 1h 12min
Dave M. Rabin, M.D., Ph.D. - “A Microdose on Your Wrist”: The Latest Research From Apollo Neuro
Neuroscientist Dr. Dave Rabin discusses the latest research on Apollo Neuro's wearable microdose device for optimal sleep and focus. Topics include stress's impact on well-being, the importance of feeling safe, Apollo Neuro's ability to calm the nervous system, and its potential in challenging psychedelic journeys.

Oct 16, 2023 • 1h 15min
Melissa Barker, Ed.D. - Rising from the Ashes: Transcending Trauma with Psychedelics
In this Psychedelic Podcast episode, co-host Joseph Anew speaks with entrepreneur and Phoenix Project founder Dr. Melissa Barker about transcending trauma with psychedelics. Joseph and Dr. Barker explore questions like, Why do traditional therapies fall short of repairing deep wounds? What can psychedelics do for trauma that other modalities can’t? How can survivors choose between ketamine, MDMA, psilocybin, and other psychedelic medicines? And what role do microdosing and community play in long-term healing? This conversation unveils the trauma-healing trajectory as survivors overcome suffering, embrace their whole selves, and emerge as autonomous leaders. Dr. Melissa Barker, Ed.D.: Dr. Melissa Barker, EdD is an entrepreneur, activist, and emerging voice in the growing psychedelics movement. She is also the founder of The Phoenix Project, a community-led mental health tech platform created by trauma survivors for trauma survivors. Dr. Barker’s personal journey healing from sexual violence led her to psychedelics, including ketamine, MDMA/MDA, psilocybin, and LSD. She’s currently utilizing her experiences to build Phoenix, the first AI companion designed specifically for trauma recovery and psychedelic integration. Highlights: Dr. Barker’s personal trauma history and its impact on her mental health. How psychedelics accelerated Dr. Barker’s healing journey. Dr. Barker’s transformative experiences with ketamine, psilocybin, MDMA, and MDA. Integrating powerful psychedelic experiences into daily life. Addressing issues of psychedelic access, safety, and reciprocity. Exploring The Phoenix Project & the importance of community healing. Dr. Barker’s seven stages of trauma recovery. How The Phoenix Project got its name, and what’s to come in version 2.0. Kundalini yoga’s role in Dr. Barker’s and Joseph’s healing journeys. Dr. Barker’s message of hope to trauma survivors. How to connect with Dr. Barker. Key Links: The Phoenix Project: https://www.iamphoenixproject.com/ The Phoenix Project on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iam_phoenix_project/?hl=en Dr. Barker on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drmelissabarker/?hl=en Episode Sponsors: BiOptimizers - Get 10% off Magnesium Breakthrough Psyched Wellness - use code THIRDWAVE23 to get 15% off. Magi Ancestral Supplements - Visit ancestralmagi.com and use coupon code TW10.

Oct 10, 2023 • 59min
Brandon Beachum - The Retro-Futuristic Vision: Balance, Abundance, & Conscious Community
In this Psychedelic Podcast episode, Paul F. Austin speaks with entrepreneur Brandon Beachum about tapping into human’s innate capacity for infinite abundance. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-216-brandon-beachum/ Paul and Brandon ask questions like, What is the role of conscious community in catalyzing spiritual evolution? How do we balance tribal wisdom with modern comforts? Can we utilize psychedelics to accelerate awakening? What does it mean to see beyond reality’s illusion and embody our inner magic? This conversation investigates essential tools for mastering the Youniverse and trusting in life’s great mystery. Brandon Beachum: Brandon Beachum is an entrepreneur, thought leader, author, and host of The Positive Head Podcast. He also hosts the late-night style talk show, Optimystic. Brandon has been a serial entrepreneur since childhood. In 2011, while living on a friend’s couch, he co-founded what is present-day ResortShare. In 2015, ResortShare was named the 569th fastest-growing private company in America in the annual Inc. 5000 fastest-growing companies list. Later that same year, Brandon began The Positive Head Podcast, which has amassed over 15M downloads and has consistently rated in the Top Five in the “Spirituality” category on Apple. Today, Brandon's primary focus is helping people shift their perspectives to innerstand the “ultimate nature of reality'' and create more of what they want to see in their world! Highlights: Mystic Manor, The Positive Head Podcast, and Brandon’s creative ventures. Brandon’s psychedelic journey from a conservative background to open-minded spirituality. A “retro-futuristic” approach to co-living and human thriving. How the “villains” in our lives can be our greatest catalysts for growth. Mastering the YOUniverse and other nuggets from “The Golden Key.” How psychedelics can dissolve illusions and awaken reality. Key Links: Positive Head Podcast: https://positivehead.com/ Positive Head on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/positive_head/ Brandon’s Book, “The Golden Key: Modern Alchemy to Unlock Infinite Abundance” (use code LOVE at checkout): https://goldenkey.gift/ Episode Sponsors: Apollo Neuro - Third Wave listeners get 15% off. Psyched Wellness - use code THIRDWAVE23 to get 15% off.

Oct 3, 2023 • 1h 16min
Lauren Sambataro - The Holistic Equation: Strength Training, Mindful Eating, & Mental Well-Being
Lauren Sambataro, Holistic Lifestyle & Movement Coach, discusses the interplay between trauma and inflammation, the role of psychedelics in personal growth, and the connection between strength training, mindful eating, and mental well-being. The hosts explore foundational practices for achieving balance, including curiosity, intuition, and the mind-body connection. They also emphasize the importance of honesty, self-assessment, and a holistic approach to health and well-being.

Sep 26, 2023 • 1h 10min
Imran Khan - From Stigma to Science: The Evolution of Psychedelic Research
In this Psychedelic Podcast episode, host Paul F. Austin speaks with Imran Khan, Executive Director of the UC Berkeley Center for the Science of Psychedelics (BCSP). Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-214-imran-khan_/ The conversation explores diverse topics, from the recent MAPS conference to Khan's career journey and BCSP’s mission to reshape psychedelic awareness. It asks the essential question: How can the field of psychedelics strike a balance between rapid growth, scientific rigor, and ethical considerations? Paul and Imran dissect the accelerating shift in public sentiment, evidenced by UC Berkeley’s survey indicating that 61% of Americans support psychedelic therapy. This episode offers a multifaceted dialogue navigating the complexities of psychedelics, science, and society. Imran Khan: Imran Khan is Executive Director of the UC Berkeley Center for the Science of Psychedelics (BCSP). The BCSP exists to explore the potential of psychedelics through independent and rigorous research, training, and public education at one of the world’s foremost universities. Imran has spent most of his career working at the nexus of science and society. He was previously the CEO of the British Science Association and ran grants programs for the Wellcome Trust, the world’s third-largest charitable foundation. Imran has also advised lawmakers in the UK Parliament. He has presented at forums ranging from the Aspen Ideas Festival to the World Economic Forum and SXSW. His writing has appeared in the Financial Times, the Guardian, and BBC News. Imran has degrees in biology and in science communication from the University of Oxford and Imperial College London, respectively, and an MBA from City University, London. He now lives in the San Francisco Bay Area and enjoys trail-running, many forms of nerdery, and trying to cook the perfect dal. Highlights: Paul & Imran’s reflections on the 2023 MAPS Psychedelic Science Conference. Imran’s career trajectory and motivations for working with psychedelics. The surprising results of the UC Berkeley Center for the Science of Psychedelics (BCSP) public survey. How history has informed BCSP’s approach to psychedelic science. BCSP’s role as a reliable voice in the field of psychedelic education. BCSP’s psychedelic journalism fellowship, sponsored by Tim Ferriss. Berkeley’s psychedelic facilitator training program. The impact of California’s Senate Bill 58 and the TREAT Initiative. Imran’s gripe with the term “plant medicine.” Key Links: UC Berkeley Center for the Science of Psychedelics (BCSP): http://psychedelics.berkeley.edu/ Imran on Twitter: https://twitter.com/imrankhan?lang=en Third Wave’s Psychedelic Coaching Institute: https://psychedeliccoaching.institute/ Episode Sponsors: Apollo Neuro - Third Wave listeners get 15% off. Psyched Wellness - use code THIRDWAVE23 to get 15% off. BiOptimizers - Get 10% off Magnesium Breakthrough

Sep 18, 2023 • 1h 19min
Nasreen El-Mariesh - Wild Woman Unleashed: Psychedelics & Feminine Power
A deep dive into psychedelics, personal growth, and female empowerment with Nasreen El-Mariesh. They discuss women-centric initiatives in the psychedelic space, intention, intuition, and the role of the 'wild woman' archetype in self-discovery. Highlighting the importance of women-only spaces, community support, and harnessing psychedelics for positive change.

Sep 11, 2023 • 1h 34min
Lily Eggers, MA, LMFT - Soulful Alchemy: Healing Relationships with Self & Other
In this Psychedelic Podcast episode, Joseph Anew and somatic couples therapist Lily Eggers delve into conscious living for relational healing, parenting, self-discovery, and spiritual growth. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-212-lily-eggers-ma-lmft/ They explore questions like: How can personal responsibility and faith generate self-trust? What role do psychedelics play in illuminating the inner mind? Can relationships serve as conduits for healing and growth? Eggers shares poignant lessons from her teenage shoplifting disaster, transformative cold pool dip, and her experiences leading group couples therapy. Join Joseph and Lily to discover how intentionality, self-awareness, and psychedelics can evoke meaningful transformation and relational harmony. Lily Eggers, MA, LMFT: Lily Eggers is a mom, entrepreneur, Somatic Couples Therapist, singer/dancer, medicine woman, and psychedelic journeyer. She believes that every relationship can be shifted out of monotony and stuckness and into sacred intimacy and spiritual evolution. Her life’s mission is to transform the stigma and shame around relationship therapy and coaching. Raised and homeschooled on 75 acres of Maine wilderness, Lily delights in bringing the “wild” into her life and work. As a Somatic Couples Therapist, she adores igniting kindness, connection, playfulness, and passion into her clients’ daily lives. Lily has trained with notable practitioners including Stan Tatkin (Psychoneurobiological Approach to Couples Therapy), David Mars (Transformational Couples Therapy), and Stanley Keleman (Formative Psychology). She incorporates sacred plant medicines, ceremony, and ritual into her practice. Lily is currently writing a book designed to bring her tools, tips, and exercises to a wider audience. She is also working on a one-woman play about motherhood, identity, and psychedelics, called "Moms on Drugs," to the stage. Highlights: Exploring the concept of trust amidst uncertainty. Lily’s lessons from being caught shoplifting at 13 years old. The importance of love and curiosity in relationships. Deepening inner awareness to foster healthier relationships. Lily’s perspectives from her unconventional upbringing in the wilderness. Lily’s story of reclaiming her authentic, uninhibited self. The sacred process of healing in relationship. How Lily works with group couples therapy. How to cultivate genuine self-improvement. Bringing humility to the psychedelic healing process. Key Links: Lily’s website: www.LilyEggers.com Lily on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rootedrelationships/?hl=en Join the upcoming webinar to learn about The Psychedelic Coaching Institute’s Certification Program: https://thethirdwave.co/webinar/ Episode Sponsors: Apollo Neuro - Third Wave listeners get 15% off. Psyched Wellness - use code THIRDWAVE23 to get 15% off. Magi Ancestral Supplements - Visit ancestralmagi.com and use coupon code TW10.

Sep 4, 2023 • 53min
Joseph Anew - Discovering Resilience: Lessons from Spartan Races & Psychedelics
In the latest Psychedelic Podcast episode, Paul F. Austin announces a new co-host who's no stranger to the microphone or transformative practices. Joseph Anew, a seasoned podcaster, former Spartan Race executive, and Director of Third Wave’s Psychedelic Coaching Institute, brings fresh perspectives and invaluable expertise to the show. The conversation delves into Joseph’s journey from fitness to psychedelics and the unique intersection between the two. Do psychedelics and obstacle-course racing have more in common than meets the eye? How do extreme experiences inform effective psychedelic coaching? Can psychedelics serve as a conduit between mental and physical health? This episode elucidates how pushing human boundaries—be it a psychedelic journey or Spartan Race—can offer profound insights into resilience and well-being. Joseph Anew: Joseph Anew is an “outside the box” thinker, holistic health expert, and personal transformation coach. Across the last twenty years, he has helped thousands transform their physical and emotional health through public speaking, coaching, podcasting, and live events focused on mindset coaching, exercise, sleep, nutrition, breathwork, cold immersion, and most recently psychedelic medicines. Joseph is the founder of RUNGA, an experiential health and wellness company that hosts transformational live events and online coaching programs. Joseph also spent eight years as an executive at Spartan Race where he was head of the company’s fitness and sport departments. Highlights: Joseph’s evolution from competitive fitness to the Psychedelic Coaching Institute. Joseph’s Spartan Race journey. The surprising parallels between psychedelics & obstacle-course coaching. Why the Psychedelic Institute hosts intensives in the jungle. How psychedelics help to re-pattern physiology, emotions, and behavior. Joseph’s excitement about The Psychedelic Coaching Institute and the podcast. Key Links: Joseph on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/josephanew_ Joseph's Website: https://josephanew.com/ Third Wave’s Psychedelic Coaching Institute: https://psychedeliccoaching.institute/ Episode Sponsors: BiOptimizers - Listeners get a special discount at https://magbreakthrough.com/thirdwave Psyched Wellness - use code THIRDWAVE23 to get 15% off. What did you think of this conversation? Let us know in Third Wave Community. Sign up for free at https://community.thethirdwave.co

Aug 28, 2023 • 56min
Phoebe McPherson - Exploring Kanna: A Gentle Ally for Opening the Heart
In this Psychedelic Podcast episode, Paul F. Austin welcomes Phoebe McPherson to discuss the resurgence of kanna, a legal psychoactive plant, in the global market. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-210-phoebe-mcpherson Paul and Phoebe explore kanna’s rich South African history, heart-opening qualities, and recent revival in the wellness space. Their comprehensive discussion asks questions like: How does kanna compare to MDMA? What led Phoebe to explore kanna, and how did it change her life? How can this plant help regulate the nervous system? Can you stack kanna extract with psychedelics like psilocybin and LSD? What does a kanna microdosing protocol look like? Paul and Phoebe uncover everything you need to know about starting a kanna protocol, safe product sourcing, and ingestion tips. Phoebe McPherson: Phoebe McPherson is an educator, herbalist, gatherer, and the Head of Brand & Education at Fungtion, a nature-inspired wellness brand on a mission to help people reconnect to their bodies and nature through mushroom and plant formulas. Phoebe has spent years working with and learning from experts in the field about the healing aspects of nature’s gifts. While she is deeply knowledgeable about medicinal mushrooms, psychedelics, and plants, her passion lies in sharing kanna (Sceletium tortuosum) with the world, helping others find safety in their first steps to connect with nature. Highlights: Understanding kanna benefits and traditional usage. Phoebe’s journey to kanna during pivotal shifts in her life. Kanna vs. MDMA: How do they compare? The story of kanna’s re-emergence in the world market. Uncovering kanna’s clinical potential. Combining kanna with other substances. Exploring kanna as an adaptogen with psychedelic qualities. Kanna supply and sustainability questions. How to safely source and ingest kanna. Kanna’s subjective benefits and personal healing stories. How to connect with Phoebe. Key Links: Fungtion: https://letsfungtion.com/ Phoebe on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_phoebe_mcpherson/ Ultimate Guide to Kanna: https://thethirdwave.co/psychedelics/kanna/ Episode Sponsors: Apollo Neuro - Third Wave listeners get 15% off. Magi Ancestral Supplements - Visit ancestralmagi.com and use coupon code TW10.