

The Psychedelic Podcast
Third Wave
The Psychedelic Podcast connects you to the leaders and pioneers of the psychedelic renaissance.
From deep healing to creativity, leadership to spirituality, business, health, human performance, relationships, sexuality, and even culture itself—every aspect of our world is being transformed by psychedelic medicines.
Get an inspired, informed, balanced look into how these powerful medicines are already being safely and responsibly used to catalyze both personal and collective transformation.
Whether you're just curious or a seasoned psychonaut, or somewhere in between, you'll get insightful, practical, cutting-edge conversations from the forefront of the psychedelic movement.
Join us as we explore how psychedelics can be integrated into culture for the evolution of humanity.
From deep healing to creativity, leadership to spirituality, business, health, human performance, relationships, sexuality, and even culture itself—every aspect of our world is being transformed by psychedelic medicines.
Get an inspired, informed, balanced look into how these powerful medicines are already being safely and responsibly used to catalyze both personal and collective transformation.
Whether you're just curious or a seasoned psychonaut, or somewhere in between, you'll get insightful, practical, cutting-edge conversations from the forefront of the psychedelic movement.
Join us as we explore how psychedelics can be integrated into culture for the evolution of humanity.
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Sep 9, 2024 • 58min
Wade T. Lightheart - Enzymes & Entheogens: Optimizing Health Through Digestion & Psychedelics
In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Wade Lightheart, co-founder and president of BiOptimizers. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-265-wade-t-lightheart/?ref=278 Wade shares his journey from bodybuilding to creating one of the world's best supplement brands. He discusses the importance of digestive health, the role of enzymes and probiotics, and how plant medicine experiences have shaped his philosophy on health and consciousness. Wade emphasizes the need for a holistic approach to wellness that combines physical, mental, and spiritual practices. Wade T. Lightheart is a Certified Sports Nutritionist Advisor and president/director of education and co-founder of BIOptimizers. As a plant-based and drug-free athlete for more than two decades, Wade is a three-time National Natural Bodybuilding Champion who competed in both the IFBB Mr. Universe and the INBA Natural Olympia by the age of 31. At the age of 50, Wade came out of retirement to win the Open Men's and Grand Master's Categories at the INBA Ironman International, then competed at The PNBA Natural Olympia. Six months later, Wade successfully ran his first marathon in four hours. Highlights: Experiences with psychedelics and near-death experiences Wade's journey from bodybuilding to plant-based nutrition The five-stage process of digestion and modern food challenges The role of magnesium in health and its importance in Bioptimizers products BiOptimizers' mission and vision for the future The free "84 days" course offered by Bioptimizers Episode Links: BiOptimizers' Magnesium Breakthrough (Third Wave Discount applied) BiOptimizers on Instagram BiOptimizers on Facebook Episode Sponsors: Apollo Neuro - Third Wave listeners get 15% off.

Sep 6, 2024 • 58min
Tonia Erin - Practitioner Spotlight: Bridging Psychedelics with Technology
Tonia Erin, a psychedelic practitioner and graduate of The Psychedelic Coaching Institute’s Practitioner Training Program, shares her remarkable journey from tech at Adobe to coaching in psychedelics. She discusses her innovative startup Energy.Work, which merges technology with spirituality. Tonia emphasizes the significance of feminine energy and the role of ceremony in healing. She also dives into the potential of ultra-low dosage 5-MeO-DMT and how it can foster personal transformation, advocating for a blend of ancient wisdom and modern practices.

Sep 2, 2024 • 50min
Matt Dawson, M.D. - Health Sovereignty: Psychedelics & Personalized Medicine
In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Dr. Matthew Dawson, co-founder and CEO of Wild Health. Find full show notes and links here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-263-matt-dawson-md/?ref=278 Dr. Dawson shares his journey from sports to medicine, highlighting the importance of movement and play in human well-being. He discusses Wild Health's innovative approach, combining cutting-edge technology with reconnecting people to nature. Dr. Matthew Dawson attended medical school at The University of Kentucky before completing his residency in emergency medicine at The University of Utah, where he served as both chief resident and fellow. He has practiced medicine and was an associate professor at the University of Kentucky for 7 years, with an acute interest in functional medicine and, later, genomics. Dr. Dawson's obsession with performance optimization began well before medical school. Dr. Dawson crystallized this approach to providing patients with true health care, rather than sick care, by building Wild Health – a Precision Medicine service providing personalized, genetics-based care to help patients achieve optimal wellbeing. Dr. Dawson also co-hosts the Wild Health Podcast. Highlights: From athlete to physician: Dr. Dawson's journey Wild Health: Merging technology and nature Psychedelics' potential in personalized medicine Genetic factors in psychedelic metabolism Balancing objective metrics and subjective experiences Holistic approaches to health optimization AI-driven personalized health recommendations Epigenetics: The frontier of diagnostics Citizen science in advancing personalized medicine Health Sovereignty: Empowering individuals through personalized medicine Episode Sponsor: Apollo Neuro - Third Wave listeners get 15% off.

Aug 26, 2024 • 56min
Stephen Thayer, Ph.D. - Healing the Healer: How Psychedelics Transform Therapy
In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Dr. Stephen Thayer, a clinical psychologist and lead trainer for psychedelic therapists at Numinus. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-262-stephen-thayer-phd/?ref=278 Dr. Thayer shares his journey from military psychologist to psychedelic-assisted therapy specialist, discussing his personal experiences with ketamine and psilocybin. He explores the integration of psychedelics into therapy and coaching, highlighting the distinctions between these roles. Dr. Thayer emphasizes the importance of facilitator training and personal psychedelic experiences, making a compelling case for evidence-based psychedelic mental healthcare alongside ceremonial or spiritual contexts. Note: This conversation was recorded in May 2024, prior to the FDA's decision on Lykos Therapeutics' MDMA-assisted therapy clinical trial for PTSD. The recent FDA ruling, which requested additional studies, will impact some of the information discussed regarding MDMA's path to medical approval. However, we believe this episode remains valuable for its insights into the broader landscape of psychedelic therapy, practitioner training, and the ongoing evolution of the field. Enjoy! Dr. Steve Thayer, Ph.D. is a clinical psychologist who specializes in psychedelic-assisted therapy practice, training, and research. He began his career in the U.S. Air Force where he led mental health care teams, provided therapeutic and assessment services, and counseled military leadership about community mental health concerns. As an adjunct professor, Dr. Thayer has taught graduate and undergraduate courses in counseling skills, clinical psychology, and personality theory. He has served as the lead therapist on several psychedelic medicine clinical trials and currently consults for Compass Pathways as a mentor to the therapists working on their phase 3 trial of psilocybin for treatment-resistant depression. Dr. Thayer is the Lead Instructor for Numinus's psychedelic-assisted therapy certification program and co-hosts Numinus's podcast, Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers. Dr. Thayer has a private therapy and coaching practice where he helps people resolve the unconscious blocks keeping them from creating the happiness, wealth, freedom, and relationships they crave. Highlights: From military psychology to psychedelic therapy Personal explorations with ketamine and psilocybin Psychedelics for mental health and spiritual exploration Integrating psychedelics into therapy and coaching Motivation for entering the psychedelic industry Bringing psychedelic awareness to the unconscious mind The potential for harm in the psychedelic underground Principles of effective psychedelic facilitation Assessing personal readiness as a psychedelic facilitator Experiential MDMA training for therapists Balancing evidence-based and spiritual approaches Episode Sponsors: Apollo Neuro - Third Wave listeners get 15% off. Soltara Healing Center: Use code TW200 to receive $200 off your next retreat.

Aug 19, 2024 • 53min
Psychedelic Horizons: Live Panel Discussion, Malibu, CA
Join host Paul F. Austin in a special live episode recorded at Psychedelic Horizons in Malibu in June, 2024, with guests Louie Schwartzberg, Lauren Taus, and Bá Minuzzi. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-261-psychedelic-horizons/?ref=278 This engaging discussion explores themes of resilience, systems change, and inspired living, focusing on the intersection of psychedelics and conscious entrepreneurship. Discover insights on personal transformation, community building, and the evolving psychedelic landscape. Don't miss this unique conversation from the forefront of the psychedelic renaissance. Louie Schwartzberg: Director of "Fantastic Fungi" and a pioneer in high-end time-lapse cinematography, Louie supports clinical research with visual imagery, bringing a visionary lens to the benefits of psilocybin mushrooms. Lauren Taus: Founder of Inbodied Life, Lauren is a clinical therapist trained by MAPS. Her work focuses on ecologies of healing, supporting liberation, and integrating societal systems for growth and healing. Bá Minuzzi: Entrepreneur and conscious investor, Bá leads wealth management for high-net-worth clients with UMANA. She champions psychedelic medicine as a transformative force for societal change. Highlights: Introduction to panel discussion Lessons from the mycelial network of fungi Embracing the third wave of psychedelics Navigating challenges in business The balancing act of integrity and vision Seeking reverence for plant life Using beauty to fight fear The inner work of leaders The transformative power of psychedelics Episode Sponsor: Sacred House of Eden: Get a $500 discount on one of their 2024 retreats by mentioning Third Wave when filling out their inquiry form.

Aug 12, 2024 • 53min
Hamilton Souther - Making of a Modern Shaman: Safety, Education & the Future of Psychedelics
Hamilton Souther, a master shaman and founder of the first healing center in the Peruvian Amazon, shares his transformative journey from the tech world to shamanism. He emphasizes the importance of education, safety, and lineage in psychedelic practices. Hamilton distinguishes between shamans and psychedelic guides, advocating for a standardized approach to ensure safe retreats. He discusses the growth of Blue Morpho Academy in response to rising interest in psychedelics and highlights the need for discernment when choosing practitioners.

Aug 6, 2024 • 1h 3min
Tricia Eastman - Seeding Consciousness: Ancestral Wisdom Meets Modern Healing
In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, host Paul F. Austin welcomes Tricia Eastman, medicine woman and founder of Ancestral Medicine Heart. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-259-tricia-eastman/?ref=278 Tricia shares her journey through the world of plant medicine and psychedelics, offering insights from her initiations into the Bwiti tradition and her experiences as a medicine woman. Tricia discusses her new book, 'Seeding Consciousness', detailing the challenges and revelations encountered during the writing process. She also unveils her vision for a wellness retreat center currently under construction in the Azores, exploring how this project aligns with her mission to integrate ancestral wisdom with modern healing practices. Throughout the conversation, Tricia and Paul delve into the transformative power of psychedelics, their potential for personal and collective evolution, and the importance of responsible use in catalyzing positive change. They explore how these powerful medicines can be safely integrated into our culture to foster healing, creativity, and spiritual growth. Tricia Eastman, a lineage-honoring medicine woman and founder of nonprofit Ancestral Heart, bridging worlds rooted in her mestiza ancestry with profound insights from a decade of Bwiti initiations and training. A renowned speaker, artist, and writer, Eastman has been privileged to engage with audiences at Stanford University's d.school, the World Economic Forum, and on GAIA TV's Psychedelica. Eastman has curated transformative retreats worldwide with plant medicines as well as facilitated the psychospiritual program with Ibogaine and 5-MeO-DMT at Crossroads Treatment Center in Mexico. Her wellness retreat center, Hu Azores, is scheduled to open in late 2025. Highlights: Tricia's connection to Asheville, North Carolina Early life and introduction to psychedelics Medicine woman's journey: Tricia's path and experiences in plant medicine Committing to a life of service to the medicine Iboga initiations with the Bwiti tradition in Gabon 'Seeding Consciousness': Key themes and challenges in writing Tricia's new book The journey starting Tricia's retreat center, Hu Azores "Eating the medicine right off the land": The vision for the retreat center Episode Sponsors: Magnesium Breakthrough by BiOptimizers: Use code THIRDWAVE for 10% off any order Soltara Healing Center: Use code TW200 to receive $200 off your next retreat.

Jul 29, 2024 • 56min
Jenny Martin, Ed.D. - The Psychedelic Cervix: Entrainment, DMT, & Trance State Sex
Dr. Jenny Martin, an expert in the transformative power of female pleasure, delves into the intersection of psychedelics and sacred sexuality. She shares her Irish heritage and insights from Christianity, particularly regarding the mystical relationship between Jesus and Mary Magdalene. Exploring cervical orgasms, she connects female pleasure to altered states of consciousness. Jenny emphasizes the importance of emotional safety in intimacy, while her courses aim to demystify ecstatic experiences, bridging modern science and ancient wisdom.

Jul 23, 2024 • 55min
JM Ryerson - The Power of Growth Mindset: Leadership, Coaching, & Ayahuasca
JM Ryerson, an entrepreneur turned leadership and performance coach, shares his transformative journey influenced by ayahuasca and plant medicine. He discusses how these experiences can fuel spiritual awakening and highlight the importance of a growth mindset in leadership. Ryerson emphasizes vulnerability as a key to personal growth and effective leadership, while also sharing insights on the role of community and discernment in business. His reflections explore the balance between entrepreneurship and coaching, inspiring others to transcend self-limiting beliefs.

Jul 16, 2024 • 1h 9min
Zappy Zapolin - Ketamine, Ibogaine, & Microdosing: A Path of Transformation
In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, host Paul F. Austin welcomes back futurist and entrepreneur Zappy Zapolin, a guest from the early days of the show. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-256-zappy-zapolin/?ref=278 Zappy discusses the urgent need for accessible natural plant medicines for mental health and addiction treatment, highlighting his experiences with ketamine and the innovative concept of 'ketitation' group katamine journeys. He shares insights on how ketamine enhances neural pathways and fosters empathy, and the potential of ibogaine for breaking addiction patterns. Join us for a transformative conversation on the future of mental health. Zappy Zapolin is a futurist, entrepreneur, and award-winning filmmaker recognized for his expertise in psychedelic therapies. Playboy magazine dubbed him "The man who wants to change the world with psychedelics." He directed the documentaries "The Reality of Truth" and "Lamar Odom: Reborn", and founded the Mind Army, which aims to legalize psychedelic medicines. Zappy began his career on Wall Street as the youngest vice president in the history of Bear Stearns and has consistently identified major trends, including internet domains" names, legal cannabis, and the psychedelic economy. Highlights: Intro to Zappy and his mission with psychedelics Spreading awareness about iboga for treating addiction 'Ketitation' group ketamine journeys Understanding the addictive potential of ketamine Raising awareness of and educating about the healing potential of ibogaine and ketamine Breaking addiction patterns with ibogaine Powerful accounts of ibogaine's healing potential Psychedelics as a solution in the "11th hour" of humanity Links: Mind Army Zappy's website Episode Sponsors: Soltara Healing Center: Use code TW200 to receive $200 off your next retreat. Magnesium Breakthrough by BiOptimizers: Use code THIRDWAVE for 10% off any order.


