

The Psychedelic Podcast
Third Wave
The Psychedelic Podcast connects you to the leaders and pioneers of the psychedelic renaissance.
From deep healing to creativity, leadership to spirituality, business, health, human performance, relationships, sexuality, and even culture itself—every aspect of our world is being transformed by psychedelic medicines.
Get an inspired, informed, balanced look into how these powerful medicines are already being safely and responsibly used to catalyze both personal and collective transformation.
Whether you're just curious or a seasoned psychonaut, or somewhere in between, you'll get insightful, practical, cutting-edge conversations from the forefront of the psychedelic movement.
Join us as we explore how psychedelics can be integrated into culture for the evolution of humanity.
From deep healing to creativity, leadership to spirituality, business, health, human performance, relationships, sexuality, and even culture itself—every aspect of our world is being transformed by psychedelic medicines.
Get an inspired, informed, balanced look into how these powerful medicines are already being safely and responsibly used to catalyze both personal and collective transformation.
Whether you're just curious or a seasoned psychonaut, or somewhere in between, you'll get insightful, practical, cutting-edge conversations from the forefront of the psychedelic movement.
Join us as we explore how psychedelics can be integrated into culture for the evolution of humanity.
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Nov 6, 2024 • 50min
Paul Karasik - From Commune to Corporate: A Psychedelic Leadership Journey
In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Paul Karasik, a pioneering figure in both corporate leadership and psychedelic spaces. Find full show notes and links here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-275-paul-karasik/?ref=278 Karasik shares his remarkable journey from co-founding Thompson's Ranch commune in Joshua Tree to becoming one of America's leading sales consultants. He discusses his recent book "Getting High on Leadership" and explores how psychedelics can transform leadership through heart-centered approaches. The conversation weaves through themes of community building, conscious business practices, and the vital intersection of higher consciousness with modern leadership principles. Paul Karasik brings decades of experience in the world of psychedelics. He was a member of the early psychedelic community in New York and California, which included such luminaries as Timothy Leary and Ram Dass. Paul co-founded Thompson's Ranch, one of the first alternative communities in Joshua Tree, CA. His ninth and most recent book, published in 2024 is "Getting High on Leadership: The Leader's Guide to Higher Consciousness". Paul and the Psychedelic Institute of Los Angeles are dedicated to making information and safe access available to anyone and everyone who is seeking to awaken their consciousness. Highlights: Founding Thompson's Ranch: From Haight-Ashbury to Joshua Tree Why the 60s missed the healing potential of psychedelics Health crisis catalyzes spiritual transformation in Brazil Creating with intention How compassionate leadership drives business success Building psychedelic community Collaborating with Cypress Hill's B-Real for Awakening 2024 Episode Sponsor: The Practitioner Certification Program by Third Wave's Psychedelic Coaching Institute.

Oct 28, 2024 • 55min
Kat Courtney - Divine Duet: Ayahuasca, San Pedro, & Plant Medicine Integration
Kat Courtney, a plant medicine pioneer and integration coach with 20 years of experience, shares her transformative journey with ayahuasca. She highlights the healing powers of ayahuasca and San Pedro, discussing how they embody divine feminine and masculine energies. Their unique integration practices and the significance of intention are emphasized, alongside insights on master plant dietas and microdosing. Kat also offers valuable resources for those seeking deeper healing through plant medicine retreats.

Oct 24, 2024 • 55min
Susannah Rose Stokes - From Marine to Mystic: A Journey of Psychedelic Metamorphosis
In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Susannah Rose Stokes, co-founder of Metamorphosis Ventures. Click here for full show notes, links, & summary: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-273?ref=278 Susannah shares her remarkable journey from Marine Corps officer to embodied priestess and psychedelic guide. She discusses her transformative experiences with plant medicines, the importance of integration, and her mission to create supportive containers for psychedelic healing. Susannah explores the concept of metamorphosis, balancing microdosing and macrodosing protocols, and her approach to guiding others through profound personal change. After serving in two combat tours in Afghanistan as a Marine Corps Officer, Susannah experienced a spiritual awakening that changed her life forever. Since then, she's dedicated her life as an Energy Priestess and Embodied Consciousness Guide. She's served dozens of people in 1:1 and group ceremonies, guiding them in their own spiritual awakening process. She co-founded House of Embodied Metamorphosis, a 508c1a Faith- Based Organization that utilizes The Metamorphosis Method and their proprietary strain of psilocybin to facilitate powerful personal transformations through retreats and coaching programs. She authored Entheogenerated, a comprehensive research study on existing research of psychedelics and their capacity to create individual and collective change. She holds a Master's in Transformative Social Change, is a graduate of the US Naval Academy and speaks Mandarin Chinese and Spanish, all in service to creating more peace and connection. As a changemaker, Susannah weaves ancient and modern techniques, paving a path for fellow leaders to create transformation toward a world full of trust, co-creation and abundance for all. Highlights: Susannah's journey from the Marine Corps to plant medicine facilitation The transformative power of San Pedro ceremonies Shifting from warrior for war to warrior for peace The meaning and challenges of personal metamorphosis Balancing microdosing and macrodosing protocols The concept of the embodied priestess Founding Metamorphosis Ventures and The Metamorphosis Method Episode Links: Metamorphosis Ventures Susannah on Instagram Episode Sponsors: The Practitioner Certification Program by Third Wave's Psychedelic Coaching Institute.

Oct 18, 2024 • 50min
Dave Schoof - Practitioner Spotlight: Emergent Leadership in the Psychedelic Era
In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Dave Schoof, a master certified coach and international leadership consultant. Find full show notes and links here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-272?ref=278 Dave shares his journey from working in intelligence to becoming a leadership coach, and how he eventually incorporated psychedelics into his practice. He discusses the power of integral theory in organizational development, the importance of emergence and unfolding in leadership, and how psychedelics can catalyze personal growth and leadership transformation. Dave also reflects on his experience in the Psychedelic Coaching Institute's Practitioner Training Program, and offers insights on the future of leadership in our complex world. Dave Schoof is an international leadership consultant specializing in helping leaders and teams build on their capabilities and move to the next level of performance and effectiveness. With over 25 years of experience across corporate, non-profit, and government sectors, Dave works with clients globally. He is a master-certified coach from the International Coach Federation and Integral Coaching Canada. Dave's background includes a 20-year career in the intelligence community. A long-time meditator, he enjoys finding practical ways to operationalize wisdom from various traditions into his work with leaders. Dave lives near Lausanne, Switzerland, where he enjoys hiking and photography. Highlights: Dave's journey to Switzerland Dave's background in intelligence and transition to leadership coaching The development and impact of integral theory How psychedelics found Dave and their potential for leadership development The importance of nervous system regulation and safety in psychedelic experiences Dave's transformative experience at the Brave Earth retreat The evolving landscape of psychedelic acceptance in leadership circles The need for a new paradigm of leadership in the face of global challenges Episode Links: Dave on LinkedIn The Psychedelic Coaching Institute's Practitioner Training Program

Oct 14, 2024 • 51min
(Bonus) Visionary Leadership: Revolutionize Executive Coaching Through Psychedelics
Dr. Amy Albright, an executive coach specializing in cognitive psychology, and Eric Kaufmann, a Harvard Fellow who merges executive coaching with Zen wisdom, share insights on the revolutionary role of psychedelics in leadership. They discuss how altered states of consciousness can elevate executive coaching and personal growth. The conversation also highlights the synergy between psychedelics, neurofeedback, and meditation, and addresses integrating these insights into corporate cultures, emphasizing the need for authentic leadership infused with spiritual values.

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Oct 7, 2024 • 1h 5min
Christi Myers - Ketamine Consciousness: Unlocking the Observer Within
Christi Myers, the founder and CEO of Flow Integrative, discusses her transformative journey from emergency medicine to pioneering ketamine-assisted therapy. She explores the neuroscience of ketamine and its potential to unlock self-awareness, especially for first responders facing mental health challenges. Myers emphasizes the need for personalized therapy protocols and safe implementation standards. She also highlights the integration of psychedelic treatments with traditional healing practices, advocating for broader access and destigmatization of mental health therapies.

Sep 30, 2024 • 1h 5min
Joshua Kappel - Psilocybin Policies: Crafting Colorado's Psychedelic Framework
Joshua Kappel, a founding partner of Vicente LLP and co-author of Colorado's Proposition 122, shares his insights into psychedelic policy reform. He discusses the journey from cannabis law to crafting a legal framework for psilocybin in Colorado. Kappel dives into the licensing process for facilitators and the importance of community-based healing, emphasizing accessibility and responsible regulation. He also touches on the evolving landscape of psychedelic policies across the U.S., with a focus on initiatives in Colorado and beyond.

Sep 27, 2024 • 50min
Chris Villar - Practitioner Spotlight: Exited Founder to Executive Coach
Chris Villar, a former Goldman Sachs financier who founded Frontpoint Security, shares his transformation into an executive coach after exiting his successful company. He reveals fascinating insights on integrating psychedelics for personal growth, aiding emotional healing, and achieving peak performance. Villar discusses the delicate balance of high achievement and mental wellness, and lessons from scaling a startup. He emphasizes the importance of community in psychedelic training and how these experiences enrich the journeys of founders and high achievers.

Sep 23, 2024 • 1h 7min
Alli Schaper - Microdosing for the Masses: Championing Legal Access & Mental Wellness
In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Alli Schaper, CEO and Co-Founder of SuperMush & The Microdosing Collective. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-267-alli-schaper/?ref=278 Alli shares her journey from corporate America to becoming a leader in the functional and psychedelic mushroom space. They discuss the importance of microdosing, the challenges of psychedelic policy reform, and the mission of the Microdosing Collective. Alli emphasizes the potential of microdosing to enhance mental health, increase empathy, and create positive societal change. The conversation covers personal experiences, the need for consumer protection in the underground market, and the vision for making microdosing legally accessible. Alli Schaper is the CEO and co-founder of SuperMush, an LA-based mental wellness lifestyle brand. She is a speaker, entrepreneur, podcast host, educator, and community builder. She has been featured in Forbes 30 under 30, National Geographic, YPO, Summit Series, Well+Good, Rolling Stone, Goop, Bloomberg and more. Alli is a sought after thought leader on topics like mental health, functional mushrooms, microdosing, psychedelic policy, and building a better relationship with death. Alli's mission is to help make the world more colorful and fun and help wake people up by getting their brains and bodies off pharmaceuticals, and back into balance through the power of fungi. SuperMush has been called "The Redbull of Mushrooms", and in just 2 years has grown into a multi-million dollar empire, built a viral 400k following across social channels, hosted 75+ IRL events across the U.S., and is backed by founders of Thrive Market, Netflix, Hu, Zumba, and more. She is also the host of SuperMush's popular mental health podcast, Into The Multiverse. Guests are globally-acclaimed artists, creatives, doctors, therapists, and leaders across wellness, mental health, consciousness, and psychedelics (previous guests: Rick Doblin, Gabby Reece, Charlotte McKinney, Devon Levesque, Noah Cyrus). Her passion for public policy and bringing microdosing psychedelics mainstream led her to co-found Microdosing Collective, the first nonprofit in the US focused on legal advocacy for microdosing. Highlights: Mushrooms and death Alli's journey from corporate America to psychedelic advocacy SuperMush and Into the Multiverse Microdosing Collective Challenges and experiences in psychedelic policy reform Vision for legal microdosing access and its potential societal impact The power of personal stories in advancing psychedelic policy How to get involved and support the Microdosing Collective Episode Sponsors: KA! Empathogenics Kanna Supplements. Get 10% off with code THIRDWAVE at checkout

Sep 16, 2024 • 60min
Dr. Rachelle C. Sampson - Breaking Patterns, Building Vision: Psychedelics in Executive Coaching
Dr. Rachelle C. Sampson, an executive coach and professor at the University of Maryland, shares her transformative insights on psychedelics in leadership. She reveals key findings from the Connected Leadership Project, revealing how psilocybin experiences can enhance decision-making and creativity in executives. The conversation explores the emotional dynamics of corporate change and the significance of a compelling vision in sustainability. Dr. Sampson underscores the interconnectedness of personal healing and its profound impact on professional environments.


