
The Psychedelic Podcast
The Psychedelic Podcast connects you to the leaders and pioneers of the psychedelic renaissance.
From deep healing to creativity, leadership to spirituality, business, health, human performance, relationships, sexuality, and even culture itself—every aspect of our world is being transformed by psychedelic medicines.
Get an inspired, informed, balanced look into how these powerful medicines are already being safely and responsibly used to catalyze both personal and collective transformation.
Whether you’re just curious or a seasoned psychonaut, or somewhere in between, you’ll get insightful, practical, cutting-edge conversations from the forefront of the psychedelic movement.
Join us as we explore how psychedelics can be integrated into culture for the evolution of humanity.
Latest episodes

Mar 18, 2024 • 57min
Bob Parsons - From Battlefield to Boardroom: A Billionaire’s Story of Trauma, Resilience, & Healing
Entrepreneur Bob Parsons shares his journey from failing fifth grade to billionaire status, crediting the Marine Corps for discipline. He discusses using psychedelics to heal war trauma, supporting ongoing research, and his new book 'Fire in the Hole.' The conversation explores the transformative power of psychedelics for deep healing and significant life changes.

Mar 11, 2024 • 1h 8min
Drs. Katie and Gay Hendricks - A Journey of Commitment: Authenticity, Love, & Relational Transformation
In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, renowned authors Gay & Katie Hendricks join host Paul F. Austin to share their insights on conscious loving and the impact of MDMA on relationships. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-238-drs-katie-and-gay-hendricks Katie and Gay discuss their own journey of meeting and committing to each other, as well as the principles they teach in their work. They reflect on their early use of MDMA to facilitate a deeper connection and self-discovery in relationships. The conversation also explores their work with executives, the importance of commitment and authenticity, and how to balance personal and professional relationships. Through unpacking their journey together, Katie and Gay reveal the power of turning concepts into experiential practices. They share their current and future projects, including Gay’s newest book “Your Big Leap Year.” Gay Hendricks and Kathlyn Hendricks have been pioneers in the fields of body intelligence and relationship transformation for more than forty years. They’ve mastered ways to translate powerful concepts and life skills into experiential processes where people can discover their own body intelligence and easily integrate life-changing skills. Katie and Gay have empowered hundreds of coaches around the world to add a body intelligence perspective to enhance fields from medicine to sports psychology, education, and personal growth. Together and singly they have authored more than forty books, including such bestsellers as Conscious Loving, The Big Leap, Conscious Loving Ever After: How to Create Thriving Relationships at Midlife and Beyond, and The Genius Zone. They have appeared on more than 500 television and radio programs, including Oprah, 48 Hours and others.

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Mar 4, 2024 • 53min
Cat Meyer, Psy.D., LMFT - Expanding Eros: Exploring the Multi-Dimensionality of Sex
Dr. Cat Meyer, a sex therapist and psychedelics advocate, discusses expanding the definition of sex, the role of microdosing in enhancing vitality, vetting partners, navigating play parties safely and intentionally, and the importance of embodied consent in intimate encounters.

Feb 26, 2024 • 1h
Dillan DiNardo - Designing States of Consciousness: Unique Approaches to Psychedelic Drug Development
Dillan DiNardo discusses using AI to design altered states of consciousness for mental health therapeutics. He shares his background, the origin of Mindstate Design Labs, and his legal battle against the DEA. The podcast explores unique approaches to psychedelic drug development and envisions expanding the psychedelic world through precision-designed states of consciousness.

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Feb 19, 2024 • 1h 11min
Vanessa Crites - Sobriety of the Soul: Safe & Intentional Psychedelic Use in Recovery
Vanessa Crites, founder of Sobriety of the Soul, discusses the integration of psychedelics into recovery and their spiritual principles. She touches on Bill Wilson's LSD experiments, the use of psychedelics in addiction recovery, and the importance of normalizing conversations about psychedelics in the recovery community.

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Feb 13, 2024 • 1h 20min
Eric Kaufmann - Beyond Ego Myopia: Shifting Culture through Conscious Business
Renowned executive coach, Eric Kaufmann, shares his journey from college dropout to meditation and psychedelics. He emphasizes the need to bring humanity and spirituality to business. The podcast explores integrating psychedelics into coaching to transcend 'ego myopia' and discusses the transformative power of psychedelics in breaking through barriers to change.

Feb 6, 2024 • 1h 2min
Dave Asprey - Elevating Human Consciousness: Psychedelics, Neurofeedback, & Biohacking Wisdom
Dave Asprey, father of biohacking and creator of Bulletproof Coffee, discusses the intersection of biohacking and psychedelics. He shares his vision of living to 180 years old and the importance of choosing when to die. They explore the 40 Years of Zen program and the benefits of Danger Coffee in enhancing consciousness.

Jan 30, 2024 • 1h 8min
Sunny Strasburg, LMFT - The Theradelic Approach: IFS, EMDR, & Psychedelic-Assisted Psychotherapy
Paul F. Austin welcomes Sunny Strasburg, LMFT, to discuss utilizing IFS & psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy through the Theradelic Approach. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-232-sunny-strasburg-lmft/ Sunny discusses her multidisciplinary background and how she came to develop her unique therapeutic approach. She incorporates various modalities such as Internal Family Systems (IFS), Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR), and the Gottman Method in her work. Sunny emphasizes the importance of personal psychedelic experience for therapists and the need for ethical and well-trained practitioners in the field. She also shares her vision for the future and the challenges of scaling psychedelic therapy while maintaining integrity and respect for the mystery of the psychedelic experience. Sunny Strasburg discusses the Theradelic Approach, which combines Internal Family Systems therapy and psychedelic-assisted therapy. She explains how working with internal parts can lead to self-compassion and coherence. Sunny also shares her experience facilitating Ketamine Assisted Psychotherapy retreats with IFS founder Dick Schwartz, and how they help leaders in various industries lead with self-energy. The conversation then delves into the importance of ethics in artificial intelligence and the potential impact of psychedelics on the AI space. Sunny reflects on the lessons she has learned from plant medicine and emphasizes the importance of being in service and awe. Sunny Strasburg, LMFT: Sunny Strasburg, LMFT plays a multifaceted role in the fields of psychology and psychedelic therapy, encompassing education, consultation, authorship, and licensed psychotherapy. Her notable literary achievement, "The Theradelic Approach: Psychedelic Therapy: Perspective, Preparation, and Practice," features a foreword by Dr. Richard Schwartz, the creator of the Internal Family Systems model. Through this work, Mrs. Strasburg distills insights drawn from her experiences as an educator, entrepreneur, and psychotherapist. Sunny's professional journey encompasses proficiency in Internal Family Systems and archetypal psychology, alongside certification in Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR). As a graduate of Pacifica Graduate Institute and the California Institute of Integral Studies, Mrs. Strasburg holds additional certifications in Psychedelic Assisted Therapy and Research, with specialized knowledge and training in Ketamine, MDMA, and Psilocybin Assisted Psychotherapies. Sunny is the originator and lead educator of The Theradelic Approach, a model of psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy. Her collaboration with Dr. Richard Schwartz and other prominent figures has led to impactful trainings and immersive retreats. Converging the domains of Ketamine Assisted Psychotherapy (KAP), Internal Family Systems (IFS), and Jungian psychology, Mrs. Strasburg has formulated innovative principles and methodologies that elevate therapeutic practices and the conscientious use of psychedelics within clinical frameworks. Sunny's expertise finds expression in prominent conferences like The Psychedelic Summit 2023, Psychedelic Science 2023, SXSW 2023, and the 2023 Expanded States of Consciousness Worldwide Summit. Moreover, her contributions extend to engagements with the 2021 EMDRIA Worldwide Virtual Conference, and her involvement spans diverse platforms, including The Theradelic Approach training, Three Cups Psychedelics, Journey Clinical, Inbodied Training, EMDRIA UK, and the Boston Trauma Conference. Highlights: Introduction and background Exploring IFS, EMDR, the Gottman Method, & the Theradelic Approach Addressing gaps in psychedelic therapy training The importance of personal psychedelic experience for therapists Understanding trauma mapping Dosage and frequency in ketamine-assisted therapy Working with internal parts using IFS ketamine-assisted psychotherapy retreats for leaders Psychedelics, AI, and ethics Lessons from plant medicine Being in service and awe Resources and trainings Links: Sunny’s website: https://sunnystrasburgtherapy.com/ Sunny’s book, “The Theradelic Approach”: https://thetheradelicapproach.com/ Sunny’s retreats: https://www.sunnystrasburgretreats.com/ Episode Sponsors: Joyous microdose ketamine. Book your free consultation today! The Coaching Certification Program by Third Wave’s Psychedelic Coaching Institute.

Jan 22, 2024 • 1h 1min
Bryan Johnson - Blueprint for Longevity: Mapping the Psychedelic Brain & Effective Daily Practices
Bryan Johnson, founder & CEO of Blueprint and the 'world's most measured human', discusses longevity, health optimization, and the future of psychedelics. He shares his approach to managing health using scientific evidence and algorithms, highlights the brain mapping technology Kernel, and offers tips on daily health practices. The conversation explores the balance of intelligence and compassion, imagining the future of longevity, and provides actionable habits for improving health and lifespan.

Jan 15, 2024 • 1h 12min
Phoenix White - Ceremonial Magic: The Art of Curating Psychedelic Experiences
In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, host Paul F. Austin sits down with Phoenix White, founder of The Sacred Celestial. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-230-phoenix-white/ Recorded in-person at the 2023 Wonderland Conference in Miami, their conversation explores the art of curating transformational psychedelic ceremonies. From postpartum mental health to creating safe, transformative, and memorable psychedelic containers, Phoenix delves into her journey, including two brain surgeries and her book, "Redefining Strong." Join Phoenix as she unravels her own psychedelic insights on love, parenting, community, and self-actualization. Phoenix White: Phoenix White is revolutionizing the boundaries of mental health as a pioneering force in the realm of transformative healing, driven by an unapologetic dedication to fostering profound personal growth & self-exploration. She has mastered the art of merging spirituality, science, & radically curating immersive multi-sensory healing experiences. Her ‘Sacred Celestial Ceremony’ was nominated for the Retreat of the Year Award at the 2023 Wonderland Conference. As a visionary and woman of color, Phoenix has triumphed over immense adversity, surviving two brain surgeries and overcoming the challenges of abuse, trauma and homelessness while raising a child as a single mother. Phoenix embodies the true spirit of what it means to rise from the ashes. Her journey has transformed her into a potent healer and a compelling voice in communities worldwide. Phoenix is the founder of The Sacred Celestial, which has catapulted her into becoming a global leader in the field of psychedelic-assisted therapy through groundbreaking work in ceremonial psychedelics. She is also the best-selling author of Redefining Strong: A Journey to Finding Yourself, True Healing, and Spiritual Recalibration—a riveting story of self-discovery, sacrifice, and healing. Highlights: The overlooked importance of postpartum mental health. Psychedelics and breastfeeding. Phoenix’s private and group ceremonies with psilocybin. Curating impactful ceremonial psychedelic experiences. Phoenix’s two brain surgeries and her book, “Redefining Strong.” Psychedelic lessons on self-confidence, love, and parenting. On creating community around psychedelics. How to learn more about Phoenix’s retreats and ceremonies. Episode Sponsors: New Brew’s non-alcoholic kratom and kava seltzers. Click Here for 15% off your next order. Joyous microdose ketamine. Book your free consultation today! The Coaching Certification Program by Third Wave’s Psychedelic Coaching Institute.