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PGbiz Podcast
Welcome to your regular glimpse into the business of mobile games. Featuring interviews with games industry experts! Your hosts are the insiders at PocketGamer.biz, the top B2B site for the mobile games industry. It covers the people, technology and deals that drive this multi-billion dollar sector. In our ongoing podcast, you’ll hear the editorial team and their guests dive into the topics and themes at the forefront of the industry. You’ll get unique insight and exclusive Q and As, taking you behind the scenes on the international mobile games scene.
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Feb 18, 2025 • 42min
The #1 AI Skill You NEED to Succeed in Marketing (Hint: It’s Not Data Crunching)
AI isn’t here to replace marketers—it’s here to empower them. In this week's PocketGamer podcast, Peggy Anne Salz and Brian Baglow chat with Bob Hollanders from Appier and Matej Lančarič, a UA expert known for his innovative approach, about how AI is transforming creative strategies in 2025.Matej reveals how he's using AI to generate a high volume of UGC ads on a minimal budget with impressive results while Bob urges marketers to act now. AI is more than a data-crunching tool; it’s a force multiplier for creativity. However, its impact depends on how well you direct it. So get ready to polish your prompt engineering skills because that's a big part of what decides if you lead or follow in 2025!Bob Hollanders - https://www.linkedin.com/in/bob-hollanders-a3b82627/Appier - https://www.appier.com/en/Matej Lančarič - https://www.linkedin.com/in/matejlancaric/Matej's website - https://lancaric.me/CHAPTERS00:00 - Intro 02:04 - Where AI is disruptive07:54 - How to make AI work for you14:59 - The right amount of data20:28 - Where to start25:55 - Achieving higher ROI31:35 - What studios consistently get wrong33:20 - What excites Bobbie & Matej the most?37:00 - Favourite games Q&A* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** Let's Connect **👉🏻 X - https://x.com/pgbiz👉🏻 LinkedIn Group - https://www.linkedin.com/groups/144491/ 👉🏻 Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/PGbiz 👉🏻 Website - https://www.pocketgamer.biz Check out more world-class speakers sharing their insights and expertise at one of our events. You can find details of our next event here - https://www.pgconnects.com/next-event

Feb 17, 2025 • 15min
The Smart Way to Extend Your Game's Lifecycle
Peggy Anne Salz pulls Dean Day, CEO of Black Smoke Studios, aside at PGC London to learn from his playbook on extending the lifecycle of games and enhancing cross-channel play. They delve into their experiences with Stumble Guys, the strategic shift to direct-to-consumer models, and the games approaching light monetization in free-to-play games the right way.Dean Day - https://www.linkedin.com/in/deanday/Black Smoke Studios - https://www.bsstudios.co/* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** Let's Connect **👉🏻 X - https://x.com/pgbiz👉🏻 LinkedIn Group - https://www.linkedin.com/groups/144491/ 👉🏻 Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/PGbiz 👉🏻 Website - https://www.pocketgamer.biz Check out more world-class speakers sharing their insights and expertise at one of our events. You can find details of our next event here - https://www.pgconnects.com/next-event

Feb 17, 2025 • 36min
Week in Mobile Games E42 - How Brawl Stars succeeded and Squad Busters struggled, and AppLovin's $900m games fire sale
PocketGamer.biz head of content Craig Chapple and news editor Aaron Astle discuss the latest mobile games industry news from the past week.On this episode, we discuss Supercell's financials and the details on why Brawl Stars had a mega revival while Squad Busters had a lacklustre launch.We also delve into why AppLovin is selling its games division for $900 million, talk about Unity's latest layoffs, and take a look at DeNA's epic financials following Pokémon Trading Card Game Pocket's blockbuster release.** Let's Connect **👉🏻 Twitter - https://twitter.com/pgbiz👉🏻 LinkedIn Group - https://www.linkedin.com/company/pocketgamer-biz/👉🏻 Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/PGbiz👉🏻 Website - https://www.pocketgamer.biz 👉🏻 Pocket Gamer Connects - https://www.pgconnects.com👉🏻Pocket Gamer Connects Speaker Submission form - https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdoS5n-vdHu6aU-2d_rR7x1FAgewG51y3nlU1aB8RdetiKaGw/viewform👉🏻Pocket Gamer Mobile Games Awards Winners - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/mga2024/winners/👉🏻 The Top 50 Mobile Game Makers 2024 - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/the-top-50-mobile-game-makers-of-2024/👉🏻 Everything is a games platform - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/everything-is-a-games-platform/👉🏻 Pocket Gamer Awards 2024 - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/pocket-gamer-awards-2024-winners-revealed/

Feb 12, 2025 • 13min
How To Monetise Your Game Smarter in 2025
At PGC London, Andrew Seow, Director of Monetisation at Tripledot Studios, dropped some serious ad mon advice. From hacking auctions to boost CPMs to mixing up monetization models like a pro, 2025 is all about getting creative with how to boost the bottom line. Expect smarter segmentation, data-driven insights, and a focus on engagement that actually pays off. The secret to success? Patience, strategy, and maybe even ironing your shirt for good luck.Andrew Seow - https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-seow-54006a163/Tripledot Studios - https://tripledotstudios.com/* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * **👉🏻 X - https://x.com/pgbiz👉🏻 LinkedIn Group - https://www.linkedin.com/groups/144491/ 👉🏻 Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/PGbiz 👉🏻 Website - https://www.pocketgamer.biz Check out more world-class speakers sharing their insights and expertise at one of our events. You can find details of our next event here - https://www.pgconnects.com/next-event

Feb 11, 2025 • 9min
How to Score Treasure as An Indie Game Studio
Arr matey! Andrew Mattingley, Founder/Director of indie studio NineZyme OÜ, sank his anchor at PGC London last week to learn more about UA and promote his studio's newest title: Tiles Tales: Pirates. In this interview, he chats with Peggy Anne Salz about embracing nostalgia to bring new energy and new users to indie games. Tune in to collect your treasure!Andrew Mattingley - https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-ninezyme/?originalSubdomain=ieNineZyme OÜ - http://ninezyme.com/* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** Let's Connect **👉🏻 X - https://x.com/pgbiz👉🏻 LinkedIn Group - https://www.linkedin.com/groups/144491/ 👉🏻 Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/PGbiz 👉🏻 Website - https://www.pocketgamer.biz Check out more world-class speakers sharing their insights and expertise at one of our events. You can find details of our next event here - https://www.pgconnects.com/next-event

Feb 10, 2025 • 9min
Pixel Playground Takes Family Game Night to the Next Level
Level up your next family game night! Peggy Anne Salz chats with Adam Cain, company owner, at PGC London about Pixel Playground, a brand offering immersive VR experiences for the whole family in Southport, UK. They dive into emerging technologies in the VR space, merging with mobile, and how to leverage cross-channel gameplay to get everyone in the family playing. Listen and learn!Pixel Playground VR - https://pixelplaygroundvr.co.uk/Adam Cain - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/cainadam* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** Let's Connect **👉🏻 X - https://x.com/pgbiz👉🏻 LinkedIn Group - https://www.linkedin.com/groups/144491/ 👉🏻 Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/PGbiz 👉🏻 Website - https://www.pocketgamer.biz Check out more world-class speakers sharing their insights and expertise at one of our events. You can find details of our next event here - https://www.pgconnects.com/next-event

Feb 5, 2025 • 37min
Turning Privacy Pop-Ups Into Real Profits with CMPs
"Gaming publishers are a long oft-overlooked opportunity for brand advertisers." This week on the PocketGamer.biz Podcast, Todd Rose, Senior Vice President of Global Business Development and Addressability at InMobi Advertising, explains how the right approach to Consent Management Platforms (CMPs) can transform compliance into real revenue—for both gaming and non-gaming advertisers. Backed by InMobi’s latest data, Todd reveals that even with minimal CMP customization, publishers can achieve a 70% opt-in rate, driving significant improvements in ad performance and revenue.
Our hosts, Peggy Anne Salz and Brian Baglow, sit down with Todd and Paul Le Bas, Chief Revenue Officer at 52 Entertainment, to explore how CMPs help publishers and advertisers strike a balance between personalization, privacy, and monetization. They dive into why consent signals boost ad rates, how to fine-tune opt-in flows, and what brands need to know before hitting ‘start’ on their CMP strategy.
CHAPTER TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Intro
02:33 - Opt-out stats
11:18 - How to get players to opt-in
16:11 - How CMPs helps publishers
22:08 - What Paul wishes he knew
24:09 - Steps to improve opt-in rates
30:30 - First-party data retargeting successes
31:48 - One tip for implementing CMPs
33:35 - Favourite games Q&A

Jan 28, 2025 • 43min
Why Every Game Needs a Creator Program
In 2025, gaming is no longer just about creating great games—it’s about creating thriving ecosystems. The rise of live-service models and player-driven economies means that success hinges on more than just initial downloads or launch-day hype. Studios now face a critical question: how do you keep players playing? Justin Sacks, CEO and Co-Founder of Nexus, offers a compelling answer: creator programs. These initiatives empower content creators to transform games into dynamic communities, driving retention, reactivation, and long-term growth in an industry where player loyalty is priority #1. Justin joins Peggy Anne Salz and Brian Baglow in this episode for a candid conversation on what it takes to build and maintain a world-class creator program. The group discusses why working with content creators proves to be a fantastic tool for sustainable growth, the mistakes and challenges studios face when getting started, why traditional influencer marketing falls short and how a revenue-sharing model sets both creators and studios up for success. Listen and learn!
CHAPTER TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Intro
01:54 - Lessons from competitive gaming
03:05 - Why creator programs matter
09:10 - Managing creator programs
13:25 - What Nexus does
14:46 - Influencer marketing vs a creator program
19:35 - Streamer to studio designer pipeline
22:08 - Steps to setting up
28:35 - Small creators still perform
31:58 - Common challenges and mistakes
38:16 - Upcoming trends
39:25 - Favourite games Q&A
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** Let's Connect **
👉🏻 X - https://x.com/pgbiz
👉🏻 LinkedIn Group - https://www.linkedin.com/groups/144491/
👉🏻 Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/PGbiz
👉🏻 Website - https://www.pocketgamer.biz
Check out more world-class speakers sharing their insights and expertise at one of our events. You can find details of our next event here - https://www.pgconnects.com/next-event

Jan 21, 2025 • 44min
The Problem with Traditional VC Funding in Gaming—and Jetapult’s Solution
Great gaming investors bring more than just cash to the table—they offer strategy, trust, and a shared vision for success. Jetapult hits the mark on all three and, like its name, gives studios the fuel they need to rocket toward sustainable growth, focusing on empowerment rather than just rapid expansion. Peggy Anne Salz and Brian Baglow sit down with Jetapult Co-Founder and CEO Sharan Tulsiani to explore how Jetapult’s partnership-driven approach sets it apart from traditional VCs. Drawing from his experience as the former Head of Google Play Games in India, Australia, and New Zealand—and as the creator of Google’s Indie Games Accelerator—Sharan shares how Jetapult helps studios leverage data, cultural insights, and operational expertise to scale smarter. He also offers rare insights into what investors really want to hear from studios during pitches and how by prioritizing long-term stability and creative freedom, Jetapult ensures developers remain firmly in the driver’s seat. Sharan also dives into specific examples, like helping one studio cut production time by 70% with AI-driven tools and achieving #1 on app store charts by focusing on culturally resonant gameplay.
CHAPTER TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Intro
03:28 - Jetapult's unique approach
08:51 - Rejecting the Founder "hero story"
11:10 - Is your studio a fit for Jetapult?
18:28 - Why Jetapult invests more than cash
26:54 - How much growth does Jetapult deliver?
33:33 - Peggy and Brian on AI
38:22 - Favourite games Q&A
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** Let's Connect **
👉🏻 X - https://x.com/pgbiz
👉🏻 LinkedIn Group - https://www.linkedin.com/groups/144491/
👉🏻 Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/PGbiz
👉🏻 Website - https://www.pocketgamer.biz
Check out more world-class speakers sharing their insights and expertise at one of our events. You can find details of our next event here - https://www.pgconnects.com/next-event

Jan 14, 2025 • 17min
How To Design A Loyalty Program That Players Love
Mobile gamers engage, splash the cash, and stick around when studios bake the right mix of personalisation and exclusivity into their gameplay. In Part 2 of our series looking at Mistplay’s Mobile Game Growth Report, Kyle West, Sr. Director of Marketing at Mistplay, and Oxana Fomina, ad monetization expert and Founder of Gradient Universe, return to reveal how studios can leverage IP and brand collaborations and craft loveable loyalty programs to rocket revenue growth. They unpack why there’s “no such thing as a non-paying player” and how the best developers create irresistible triggers that keep users coming back. Learn how to design loyalty experiences that evolve with your audience, use web shops to unlock new revenue streams, and apply dynamic pricing and FOMO-driven offers without breaking player trust.
CHAPTER TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Let's talk loyalty
03:35 - Take a step back to
06:07 - One tactic to increase retention
08:41 - Designing a loyalty program that players love
13:34 - Favourite games Q&A
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** Let's Connect **
👉🏻 X - https://x.com/pgbiz
👉🏻 LinkedIn Group - https://www.linkedin.com/groups/144491/
👉🏻 Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/PGbiz
👉🏻 Website - https://www.pocketgamer.biz
Check out more world-class speakers sharing their insights and expertise at one of our events. You can find details of our next event here - https://www.pgconnects.com/next-event