
The ECB Podcast
The European Central Bank Podcast – bringing you insights into the world of economics and central banking.
Our hosts Paul Gordon and Stefania Secola talk to experts about the topics and trends that matter to the eurozone economy today.
The views expressed are those of the speakers and not necessarily those of the European Central Bank.
Latest episodes

Feb 10, 2024 • 15min
Future euro banknotes, unpacked
Did you know that euro banknotes are getting a makeover? As the euro turns 25, let’s look at the road ahead for our banknotes. What will future euro banknotes look like, why do we need them, and when can we start using them?
Join our host Stefania Secola and Sarai Artiles, who works on banknote communications, to find out more.
The views expressed are those of the speakers and not necessarily those of the European Central Bank.
Published on 10 February 2024 and recorded on 1 February 2024.
In this episode:
00:05 – The euro is turning 25
The euro unites us – it is used by 350 million people in 20 countries! Euro banknotes are a physical reminder of our shared identity.
01:56 – Why are we redesigning euro banknotes?
Security, environmental aspects and relatability: these are just some of the reasons we are designing a new series of euro banknotes.
05:28 – Many cultures, one euro
Euro banknotes are used by people with different backgrounds, cultures, and languages. How can future banknotes represent them all?
08:50 – What will they look like?
“European culture” and “Rivers and birds” have been selected as the themes for future euro banknotes. Does this mean we already know what they’ll look like?
10:20 – When can we start using them?
We have the themes, but what’s next in the banknote redesign process? When can we expect to start using these new banknotes?
12:30 – Our guest’s hot tip
Additional material:
Press release: ECB selects “European culture” and “Rivers and birds” as possible themes for future euro banknotes
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pr/date/2023/html/ecb.pr231130~cad7fa27ab.en.html
Press release: ECB surveys Europeans on new themes for euro banknotes
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pr/date/2023/html/ecb.pr230710~77cf718c59.en.html
Podcast: All you need to know about euro banknotes
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/tvservices/podcast/html/ecb.pod220205_episode27.en.html
Webpage: FAQ on the redesign of euro banknotes
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/euro/banknotes/future_banknotes/html/ecb.faq_banknotes_redesign.en.html
Webpage: The redesign process
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/euro/banknotes/future_banknotes/redesign/html/index.en.html
European Central Bank
http://www.ecb.europa.eu/

Jan 31, 2024 • 21min
The ECB’s climate and nature plan: our path to a greener future
What lies ahead on our path to a greener future? How can we assess the impact of extreme weather on the economy? And how can we tackle financial risks from nature loss and degradation? With its new climate and nature plan, the ECB is stepping up its work in these areas over the next two years.
Our host Stefania Secola discusses this and more with the head of the ECB’s climate change centre, Irene Heemskerk.
The views expressed are those of the speakers and not necessarily those of the European Central Bank.
Published on 31 January 2024 and recorded on 23 January 2024.
In this episode:
01:00 – The ECB’s work on climate
What has the ECB done so far to help tackle climate change, what does it plan to focus on going forward and why is this work important?
04:35 – The intensifying climate crisis
As global temperatures rise and extreme climate events become more frequent and more devastating, what is the impact on the economy and the financial system? What can the ECB do about it?
07:40– Keeping the green transition on course
Time is running out to contain global warming and meet the Paris Agreement targets. Governments are in the driving seat but we’re all heading in the same direction. How can economic analysis contribute to these efforts, and how can we unlock the funds needed to keep the green transition moving forward?
13:15 – Defining a role for monetary policy
The ECB has already tilted its corporate bond holdings towards issuers with better climate performance. What else can it do, within its mandate, to support the green transition? What role can interest rates play?
15:00 – From climate change to environmental crises: nature and biodiversity loss
Euro area firms and banks are highly dependent on nature, but nature is being rapidly devastated by human activity. What are the economic and financial risks stemming from nature degradation?
17:22 - Our guest’s hot tip
ECB climate change centre head Irene Heemskerk shares her hot tip with our listeners.
Additional material:
Press release: ECB steps up climate work with focus on green transition, climate and nature-related risks, 30 January 2024
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pr/date/2024/html/ecb.pr240130~afa3d90e07.en.html
The ECB’s climate and nature plan 2024-25
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/ecb/climate/our-climate-and-nature-plan/html/index.en.html
Climate change and the ECB https://www.ecb.europa.eu/ecb/climate/html/index.en.html
The ECB’s publications on climate change https://www.ecb.europa.eu/home/search/html/climate_change.en.html
The ECB Podcast: What biodiversity and nature loss mean for our economy, 25 November 2023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP3tRzELPLY
European Central Bank
www.ecb.europa.eu
www.bankingsupervision.europa.eu

Jan 25, 2024 • 11min
President Lagarde presents the latest monetary policy decisions – 25 January 2024
Today our Governing Council decided on monetary policy, determining what’s needed to return inflation to our 2% goal in a timely manner.
Listen to President Christine Lagarde present today’s decisions. The statement also covers:
- how the economy is performing
- how we expect prices to develop
- the risks to the economic outlook
- the dynamics behind financial and monetary conditions
Published and recorded during our press conference on 25 January 2024.
Our monetary policy statement at a glance, 25 January 2024 https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pressconf/visual-mps/2024/html/mopo_statement_explained_january.en.html
Christine Lagarde, Luis de Guindos: Monetary policy statement, 25 January 2024 https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pressconf/2024/html/ecb.is240125~db0f145c32.en.html
Monetary policy decisions, 25 January 2024 https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pr/date/2024/html/ecb.mp240125~f738889bde.en.html
Combined monetary policy decisions and statement, 25 January 2024 https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pressconf/shared/pdf/ecb.ds240125~d65b43331a.en.pdf
European Central Bank
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/home/html/index.en.html
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Dec 14, 2023 • 17min
President Lagarde presents the latest monetary policy decisions – 14 December 2023
President Lagarde presents the latest monetary policy decisions and discusses factors influencing interest rate decisions, plans to normalize the balance sheet, and expectations for inflation reaching the target of 2% in 2025. The episode also covers the Euro-area economy, labor market impact, changes in financial and monetary conditions, and concerns about financial stability.

Dec 9, 2023 • 22min
The end of an era – five years with Andrea Enria
Outgoing Supervisory Board Chair Andrea Enria sat down with President Christine Lagarde during the ECB Forum on Banking Supervision to look back on his five-year term, marked by challenges such as the pandemic and reflects on the most difficult decision he had to take.
He also reflects on the decisions taken to overcome these challenges, and what the future holds for European banking supervision.
Recorded on 1 December 2023 and published on 9 December 2023.
Additional material:
President Christine Lagarde’s welcome address at the fifth ECB Forum on Banking Supervision
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/key/date/2023/html/ecb.sp231130~48f5947179.en.html
ECB Forum on Banking Supervision
https://www.bankingsupervision.europa.eu/press/conferences/html/20231130_5th_ECB_Forum_Banking_supervision.en.html
European Banking Supervision
https://www.bankingsupervision.europa.eu/home/html/index.en.html
European Central Bank www.ecb.europa.eu

Dec 2, 2023 • 21min
When the yin meets the yang: resilience in gloomy times
How are financial markets reacting to higher rates, a sluggish economy and geopolitical tensions? Should we worry about property markets?
Our host Stefania Secola puts these questions to financial stability expert John Fell on The ECB Podcast.
The views expressed are those of the speakers and not necessarily those of the European Central Bank.
Published on 2 December 2023 and recorded on 27 November 2023.
In this episode:
01:08 – Financial markets’ optimism is put to the test
How are financial markets reacting to the new environment of high interest rates, a sluggish economy and rising geopolitical tensions?
06:00 – The conundrum of banks’ increasing profits and stagnant valuations
Banks’ profits are at multi-year highs, yet their valuations haven’t changed much. What factors explain this?
10:31 – Real estate markets are a source of concern
Residential and commercial property markets are feeling the impact of higher interest rates. What are the implications for banks and financial stability?
16:06 – The yin and the yang of financial stability
As the credit cycle turns, and with several vulnerabilities unravelling, can resilience compensate?
18:22 – Conclusion
Additional material:
Financial Stability Review, November 2023 https://www.ecb.europa.eu/pub/financial-stability/fsr/html/index.en.html
FSR Box 5 on Euro area bank fundamentals, valuations and cost of equity
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/pub/financial-stability/fsr/html/ecb.fsr202311~bfe9d7c565.en.html#toc27
Special feature B on Real estate markets in an environment of high financing costs
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/pub/financial-stability/fsr/html/ecb.fsr202311~bfe9d7c565.en.html#toc40
The ECB Podcast: Financial stability and bank runs, June 2023 https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/tvservices/podcast/html/ecb.pod230607_episode60.en.html
European Central Bank www.ecb.europa.eu

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Nov 25, 2023 • 21min
What biodiversity and nature loss mean for our economy
Nature is in danger. This affects us all, including businesses and banks. Why is this relevant for the ECB’s mandate?
Join our host Stefania Secola and her guest Frank Elderson, Executive Board member and Supervisory Board Vice-Chair, as they discuss nature loss, its impact on our economy and what we’re doing about it.
The views expressed are those of the speakers and not necessarily those of the European Central Bank.
Published on 25 November 2023 and recorded on 17 November 2023.
In this episode:
00:05 – Nature is in danger
Habitats and species are in decline. How does this affect our economies? And if our mandate is to maintain price stability and keep euro area banks safe and sound, why does the ECB care about biodiversity loss?
02:01 – The economic impact of biodiversity loss
How big is the impact of biodiversity loss on people and businesses? How much are banks, and the wider economy, affected? And what’s the ECB’s role in this?
08:38 – What’s the ECB doing about nature loss?
Knowledge is the first step. Quantifying the impact that nature loss has on our economies and banks is important. But what can the ECB do with these findings?
15:51 – Are banks doing enough?
We’ve asked banks to come up with action plans to assess their climate and environmental risks. But they need to make more progress.
17:45 – Our guest’s hot tip
Executive Board member and Supervisory Board Vice-Chair, Frank Elderson, shares his hot tip with our listeners.
Additional material:
Occasional Paper: Living in a world of disappearing nature: physical risk and the implications for financial stability
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/pub/pdf/scpops/ecb.op333~1b97e436be.en.pdf?90e7aaae4ef927f887a787587a22adba
The ECB Blog by Frank Elderson: The economy and banks need nature to survive
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/blog/date/2023/html/ecb.blog230608~5cffb7c349.en.html
The ECB Podcast: Are banks walking the talk on climate?
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/tvservices/podcast/html/ecb.pod221102_episode44.en.html
The ECB Podcast: Being transparent about climate risks
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/tvservices/podcast/html/ecb.pod230513_episode58.en.html
“Addressing tipping points for a precarious future” by Timothy O’Riordan and Timothy Lenton
European Central Bank
http://www.ecb.europa.eu/

Oct 26, 2023 • 14min
President Lagarde presents the latest monetary policy decisions – 26 October 2023
President Lagarde discusses monetary policy decisions, the state of the euro-area economy, inflation expectations, risk assessment, and financial conditions. The governing council keeps interest rates unchanged to address inflation and emphasizes a data-dependent approach.

Oct 24, 2023 • 17min
The digital euro, demystified
Will we soon pay with a digital euro? Would it replace cash? And who is it for? Although no decision has been made on issuance, we are preparing for a possible digital euro. This is fuelling a lot of interest − and quite a few misconceptions.
Join our host Stefania Secola and her guest Evelien Witlox, head of the ECB’s digital euro project, as they set the record straight by busting some myths on the topic.
The views expressed are those of the speakers and not necessarily those of the European Central Bank.
Published on 24 October 2023 and recorded on 19 October 2023.
In this episode:
00:20 – Digitalisation in payments
The world is becoming increasingly digital, and the way we pay is no exception. To ensure our euro is future-proof, the ECB has decided to proceed with a digital euro preparation phase.
01:28 – The project moves ahead
What does the decision to move to the next phase mean? Will we soon be able to pay with a digital euro?
04:01 – The need for a digital euro
I can already pay digitally with my bank card, my phone or even my watch. What’s the difference between doing this and paying with a digital euro?
06:25 – Digital euro and cash
What about euro cash? Will a digital euro replace banknotes and coins?
09:35 – Who will use it?
Is a digital euro only for young people in big cities? Will it exclude people who don’t have a phone?
10:34 – Data and the digital euro
Will the ECB collect personal data when you pay with the digital euro and if so, for what purpose?
12:51 – The project team
Who’s involved in the digital euro project? Is the ECB doing all this alone?
15:20 – Our guest’s hot tip
Additional material:
Press release: Eurosystem proceeds to next phase of digital euro project
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pr/date/2023/html/ecb.pr231018~111a014ae7.en.html
Digital euro hub page
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/paym/digital_euro/html/index.en.html
Webpage: Why do we need a digital euro
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/paym/digital_euro/why-we-need-it/html/index.en.html
The ECB Podcast: A digital euro: what, why, when? (part 1)
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/tvservices/podcast/html/ecb.pod221015_episode41.en.html
The ECB Podcast: A digital euro: what, why, when? (part 2)
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/tvservices/podcast/html/ecb.pod221019_episode42.en.html'
European Central Bank
http://www.ecb.europa.eu/

Sep 28, 2023 • 18min
How tech is shaping banking supervision
How can new technologies improve banking supervision? What challenges do they bring for supervisors? And how will artificial intelligence make Europe’s banks safer?
Our new host Stefania Secola explores this topic with Supervisory Board member Elizabeth McCaul.
A warm welcome to Stefania and a big thanks for standing in for Katie Ranger, who is away for a while.
The views expressed are those of the speakers and not necessarily those of the European Central Bank.
Published on 28 September 2023 and recorded on 22 September 2023.
In this episode:
01:25 – Digitalisation in banking supervision
How are technological changes affecting supervision? What kinds of supervisory technology – also known as suptech – are we using? And will robots end up supervising banks?
5:07 – Using suptech to sort data
How do supervisors use technology to analyse big amounts of data? Why is this important? And how does this help bank customers?
10:20 – Artificial intelligence (AI)
How do we use technology to make sure banks are run by the right people? Is human judgment still important when using artificial intelligence?
12:07 – The people behind new technologies
How do different supervisory teams cooperate? And how does technology help fight financial crime?
15:15 – Our guest’s hot tip
Supervisory Board member, Elizabeth McCaul, shares her hot tips with our listeners.
Additional material:
Technology, data and innovation – shaping the future of supervision. Keynote speech by Elizabeth McCaul
https://www.bankingsupervision.europa.eu/press/speeches/date/2023/html/ssm.sp230920_1~9315562707.en.html
Supervision Newsletter – Digital transformation requires strong governance and steering
https://www.bankingsupervision.europa.eu/press/publications/newsletter/2023/html/ssm.nl230517_3.en.html
The ECB Podcast: Let's get digital on inflation, climate and the euro
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/tvservices/podcast/html/ecb.pod220811_episode39.en.html
The ECB Blog by Myriam Moufakkir: Machines help to crunch the numbers, 28 September 2023
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/blog/date/2023/html/ecb.blog230928~3f76d57cce.en.html
European Central Bank
www.ecb.europa.eu
European Banking Supervision
www.bankingsupervision.europa.eu