
Inclusive STAGES: Building Healthy Arts Spaces
Inclusive STAGES™ is the podcast for theater makers, creatives, and arts leaders who believe we can build a better industry—one brave, emotionally intelligent, and trauma-informed space at a time. Hosted by Kira Troilo, founder of Art & Soul Consulting, each episode explores what it really takes to create inclusive, healthy creative environments in today’s rapidly changing performing arts landscape.Whether you're a theater artist, an arts administrator, an educator, a creative leader, or a producer, this show will help you answer big questions like:What is inclusive leadership in the arts, and how do I practice it?How can performing arts organizations promote diversity and inclusion?What does “representation matters” mean in theater and beyond?How can venues make performances more accessible?What tools do I need to lead with care—and still make bold, brilliant work?Through honest conversations, industry insights, and practical tools, Inclusive STAGES™ empowers you to reduce burnout, dismantle harmful norms, and build the kinds of creative spaces where everyone can thrive.New episodes every week. Follow now and join the movement toward healthier, more sustainable arts spaces.
Latest episodes

Oct 1, 2024 • 28min
The #1 Missing Skill in the Theater Industry
I'm making good on a promise from my last solo episode—I’m talking about one of the most important and underrated skills that is missing from the theater industry. We haven't been educated about it, and yet it’s at the heart of all our creative work. Have you guessed what it is yet? When I say the word, it typically elicits groans—so get ready to groan. It's feedback and feedback resilience. Now you may be thinking, what does feedback have to do with inclusion? The answer: it's everything, friends! And today, you’re going to learn the difference between constructive criticism and negative feedback, about feedback triggers and barriers, as well as what you can do in your role to encourage feedback culture in an organization.Grab the links and mentioned resources athttps://inclusivestages.com/post/feedback-resilience-is-missing-in-the-theater-industryRegister Now for our Fall CohortConnect with Kira:@kiratroilo @artandsoulconsulting @inclusivestages"'Black Hair'" Is Hair: An Entertainment Industry Guide WebsiteJoin our mailing list - scroll to the bottom of the pageThanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.

Sep 24, 2024 • 55min
Reclaiming Agency & Naming the Elephant in the Room with Jennifer Apple
It’s hard to know how much of yourself to bring to a character as an actor. There’s also the question of which roles to even audition for? It can be absolutely exhausting trying to figure out which boxes to put yourself in and what to do with your talents in this industry. Which is why I’m grateful Jennifer Apple is here with me for this conversation! She shares how actors can take back their agency, why it’s critical you bring yourself to the character, and where the theater industry could use a redirect. We also get into the importance of naming the elephant in the room, but not talking about the elephant. Enjoy the show!Please note that this episode mentions October 7th, which may be sensitive for some listeners.Grab the links and mentioned resources athttps://inclusivestages.com/post/reclaiming-agency-naming-the-elephant-in-the-room-with-jennifer-appleConnect with Jennifer:WebsiteInstagramLinkedInPodcastRegister Now for our Fall CohortConnect with Kira:@kiratroilo @artandsoulconsulting @inclusivestages"'Black Hair'" Is Hair: An Entertainment Industry Guide WebsiteJoin our mailing list - scroll to the bottom of the pageThanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.

Sep 17, 2024 • 58min
In the Room Where It Happens: Politics & Parenting with Jared Dixon
Politics is a part of not only the musical “Hamilton” but also the theater industry itself. From theater governance to policies that affect parents to actor taxation, there’s a whole section of theater that you may not be aware of—yet! If we hope to see change, we must take action. And that’s one major theme of this episode with Jared Dixon. Jared joins me for an incredible conversation! He shares about life pre-pandemic, becoming a husband and homeowner, how parenting has impacted his acting career, and the special bonds he has with castmates. Press play and launch into this deep discussion!Grab the links and mentioned resources athttps://www.inclusivestages.com/post/parenting-and-theater-politics-with-Jared-DixonConnect with Jared:WebsiteInstagramRegister Now for our Fall CohortConnect with Kira:@kiratroilo @artandsoulconsulting @inclusivestages"'Black Hair'" Is Hair: An Entertainment Industry Guide WebsiteJoin our mailing list - scroll to the bottom of the pageThanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.

Sep 10, 2024 • 32min
Hiring Black Artists? Consider These 5 Key Things First
One easy way to show that you value black actors and members of your production team is to have thought things through ahead of time. Another is to ask for and actually act on feedback. There is so much I want to share on this topic, so what better way than to record a podcast and share that with you? Today’s solo episode—and season 2 opener for the Inclusive Stages Podcast—is centered around my top 5 points all theaters and leaders should consider before hiring folks of color. This is, of course, a shame-free zone and I share these insights with love in the hope for more inclusive stages in the future!Grab the links and mentioned resources athttps://inclusivestages.com/post/hiring-black-artists-consider-these-5-key-things-firstRegister Now for our Fall CohortConnect with Kira:@kiratroilo @artandsoulconsulting @inclusivestages"'Black Hair'" Is Hair: An Entertainment Industry Guide WebsiteJoin our mailing list - scroll to the bottom of the pageThanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.

Jun 25, 2024 • 50min
Relationships, Race, & Reviving Curiosity with Jared Troilo
At work, Jared and I try to stay as far apart as possible because he’s the actor and I’m the EDI consultant. This is Jared, as in Troilo—my husband and father to our son, Levi! This conversation is a huge treat for us! Join us as we discuss Jared’s 20+ year acting career, parenting in the theater industry, relationship building, the importance of curiosity, and the behind-the-scenes of starting my company and this podcast! It’s been quite a wild ride, and as we close out Season 1 of Inclusive Stages, I’m so thrilled to be able to have this open, honest, and vulnerable conversation with Jared. You definitely won’t want to miss this episode—especially the personal life update we share! Enjoy the show!Grab the links and mentioned resources athttps://inclusivestages.com/post/relationships-race-and-parenting-with-jared-troiloConnect with Jared:WebsiteInstagramRegister Now for our Fall CohortConnect with Kira:@kiratroilo @artandsoulconsulting @inclusivestages"'Black Hair'" Is Hair: An Entertainment Industry Guide WebsiteJoin our mailing list - scroll to the bottom of the pageThanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.

Jun 18, 2024 • 52min
We Know How To Fix the Entertainment Industry
There are many conversations happening about mental health and the arts—but not much is being done about it. Art is a powerful medium for change, yet education is being minimized and artists aren’t being handled with care. Which is why it fills me with such joy to introduce you to these two incredible powerhouses who are in fact doing this work alongside me! Please meet Zena Collins and Dr. Charmain Jackman. In this roundtable discussion, you’ll hear more about how we connected with each other, the inclusion work we’ve each been doing, and how we’ve been ideating ways to work together to create even bigger change for the stage!Grab the links and mentioned resources athttps://inclusivestages.com/post/we-know-how-to-fix-the-entertainment-industryConnect with Zena:WebsiteLinkedInTheatre503Connect with Dr. Charmain:WebsiteInstagramLinkedInRegister Now for our Fall CohortConnect with Kira:@kiratroilo @artandsoulconsulting @inclusivestages"'Black Hair'" Is Hair: An Entertainment Industry Guide WebsiteJoin our mailing list - scroll to the bottom of the pageThanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.

Jun 11, 2024 • 20min
Why I Needed to Retire from Acting (For Now)
Today, I want to talk about something I’ve wanted to share for a while—why I decided to retire from acting. On this podcast, I ask other actors and artists to come on and be vulnerable. I invite them to share their stories and dig deep with me. So it’s only fair that I do that myself. In this episode, I’m sharing my experiences as a commercial and theater actor—as a mom and an actress—and what ultimately led me to retire from the stage. Join me for this raw solo conversation, and please let me know if there’s anything from my story you can relate to. I’d love to hear from you!Grab the links and mentioned resources athttps://inclusivestages.com/post/why-i-needed-to-retire-from-acting-for-nowConnect with Kira:@kiratroilo @artandsoulconsulting @inclusivestages"'Black Hair'" Is Hair: An Entertainment Industry Guide WebsiteJoin our mailing list - scroll to the bottom of the pageThanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.

Jun 4, 2024 • 48min
Ups & Downs of B'way Behind-the-Scenes & Reclaiming “Fat” w/ Katy Geraghty
When discussing inclusion in musical theater and the arts, body diversity must be a part of that conversation. Actors come in all shapes and sizes—with all of the lived experiences that go along with their bodies. The audition process can be a source of trauma—or inspiration! The performances themselves can be hurtful—or empowering! My guest today, Katy Geraghty, is a New York-based actor, performer, and teacher. And as a self-proclaimed fat woman she’s on a mission to take back the power of words and highlight the talent that is within each one of us! Katy and I chat about everything from Broadway auditions and acting alongside a star-studded cast to life on tour and her scariest performance. Press play and enjoy the show, theater friend!Grab the links and mentioned resources athttps://inclusivestages.com/post/ups-downs-of-b-way-behind-the-scenes-reclaiming-fat-with-katy-geraghtyConnect with Katy:InstagramTikTokRegister Now for our Fall CohortConnect with Kira:@kiratroilo @artandsoulconsulting @inclusivestages"'Black Hair'" Is Hair: An Entertainment Industry Guide WebsiteJoin our mailing list - scroll to the bottom of the pageThanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.

May 28, 2024 • 55min
Transitioning, Type-Casting & Learning from Each Other Offstage
Telling stories in the theater is evolving. There are intimacy coordinators and EDI consultants like me. But the real change is happening by the real people having real conversations and real growth with each other in real time. These productions aren’t just opportunities for the audience to grow and gain a different perspective—we, as actors, get to do this as well! And when I collaborated with Carlee Fallon and Carolyn Saxon, I just knew I wanted to be able to share their story. Today I’m talking with these two amazing women about all things inclusion, the theater, and bravely having those uncomfortable conversations to grow as humans. I know you’ll love these two—so please, enjoy the show!Grab the links and mentioned resources athttps://inclusivestages.com/post/transitioning-type-casting-learning-from-each-other-offstageConnect with Carlee:InstagramConnect with Carolyn:Lyric StageGreater Boston StageFacebookRegister Now for our Fall CohortConnect with Kira:@kiratroilo @artandsoulconsulting @inclusivestages"'Black Hair'" Is Hair: An Entertainment Industry Guide WebsiteJoin our mailing list - scroll to the bottom of the pageThanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.

May 21, 2024 • 29min
How To Create an Inclusive Rehearsal Room Culture
Creating inclusive spaces in rehearsal rooms is just one piece of the puzzle. But it has a huge ripple effect! Who wouldn’t want to feel heard, seen, and valued, right? (And this doesn’t just go for the actors, friends…) Part of my mission with this podcast is to share what I’ve learned—and continue to learn—on my journey as an EDI consultant. So today, I’m walking you through my CULTURE Roadmap. This roadmap helps establish the culture of the rehearsal and performance spaces for every single show I work with. I hope you find this helpful and I cannot wait to connect after the show!Grab the links and mentioned resources athttps://www.inclusivestages.com/post/how-to-create-an-inclusive-rehearsal-room-cultureRegister Now for our Fall CohortConnect with Kira:@kiratroilo @artandsoulconsulting @inclusivestages"'Black Hair'" Is Hair: An Entertainment Industry Guide WebsiteJoin our mailing list - scroll to the bottom of the pageThanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.