
Inclusive STAGES: Building Healthy Arts Spaces
Inclusive STAGES™ is the podcast for theater makers, creatives, and arts leaders who believe we can build a better industry—one brave, emotionally intelligent, and trauma-informed space at a time. Hosted by Kira Troilo, founder of Art & Soul Consulting, each episode explores what it really takes to create inclusive, healthy creative environments in today’s rapidly changing performing arts landscape.Whether you're a theater artist, an arts administrator, an educator, a creative leader, or a producer, this show will help you answer big questions like:What is inclusive leadership in the arts, and how do I practice it?How can performing arts organizations promote diversity and inclusion?What does “representation matters” mean in theater and beyond?How can venues make performances more accessible?What tools do I need to lead with care—and still make bold, brilliant work?Through honest conversations, industry insights, and practical tools, Inclusive STAGES™ empowers you to reduce burnout, dismantle harmful norms, and build the kinds of creative spaces where everyone can thrive.New episodes every week. Follow now and join the movement toward healthier, more sustainable arts spaces.
Latest episodes

May 14, 2024 • 45min
Beyond Accessibility: Disability Representation in Theater with Brennan Srisirikul
Disability representation in theater is still a misunderstood and even avoided topic. But I’m hoping to change that with today’s conversation. Meet Brennan Srisirikul, a talented disabled actor, producer, and advocate! We bonded over coffee and the fact that, while progress has been made when it comes to disability and theater, there’s still work to do. We discuss everything from how we can tell disabled stories better, auditioning as a disabled person, and how to navigate the topic of disability with kindness. In this vulnerable interview, Brennan makes a beautiful point—disability breeds so much creativity. I know you’re going to love Brennan and this interview, so please—press play and enjoy the show!Grab the links and mentioned resources athttps://www.inclusivestages.com/post/beyond-accessibility-disability-representation-in-theater-with-brennan-srisirikulConnect with Brennan:WebsiteTikTokTwitter/XRegister Now for our Fall CohortConnect with Kira:@kiratroilo @artandsoulconsulting @inclusivestages"'Black Hair'" Is Hair: An Entertainment Industry Guide WebsiteJoin our mailing list - scroll to the bottom of the pageThanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.

May 7, 2024 • 47min
Consent-Forward Practices & Care-Forward Leadership with Leigh Barrett
Being a “consent-forward artist” or birthing a “care-forward creative space” sounds lovely, but it’s a BIG job. The theater industry has historically had a “just push through” mentality. Thankfully, we’ve seen that begin to shift in the last few years, but not without some damage being done. Leigh Barrett is a beloved Boston-based actor, singer, and director, and she knows all too well the labor of changing what leadership looks like. In this episode, Leigh and I discuss how we (as actors, directors, and theater lovers) can bring more connection and conversation to a production—or even simply bring balance into our own lives. Leigh and I get into all this and more. Press play and enjoy the show!In this episode, you will:Discover how Leigh has taken her experiences as an actor and used them to be an incredible leader and director.Uncover the freedom Leigh discovered in being her FULL, authentic self!Learn what it’s like to balance being a mother and an actor.Full show notes here!Mentioned ResourcesThe Last Five YearsConnect with Leigh:WebsiteRegister Now for our Fall CohortConnect with Kira:@kiratroilo @artandsoulconsulting @inclusivestages"'Black Hair'" Is Hair: An Entertainment Industry Guide WebsiteJoin our mailing list - scroll to the bottom of the pageThanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.

Apr 30, 2024 • 40min
Tour Life & EDI Conversations with Aaron Michael Ray
How often do you get asked about your lived experiences? All those moments added up to create the person you are today, yet not all of us are fortunate enough to have people in our world willing to ask questions and listen to what we have to share. But Aaron Michael Ray saw a way to encourage, facilitate, and help all of us heal from conversations just like that.I’m so excited to bring you this interview with my friend Aaron. He’s just coming off of the Come From Away Tour, which much of our conversation centers around. It was a call with that entire production that initially sparked the Conversations From Away podcast. The podcast was created to highlight the theater industry's social injustices and bring people together to fight for necessary change. Please enjoy this conversation with Aaron Michael Ray, and stay until the end to see where you can see him on stage next!Grab the links and mentioned resources athttps://inclusivestages.com/post/tour-life-edi-conversations-with-aaron-michael-rayConnect with Aaron:Conversations From Away PodcastA Strange LoopA Wonderful WorldRegister Now for our Fall CohortConnect with Kira:@kiratroilo @artandsoulconsulting @inclusivestages"'Black Hair'" Is Hair: An Entertainment Industry Guide WebsiteJoin our mailing list - scroll to the bottom of the pageThanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.

Apr 23, 2024 • 47min
Setting Boundaries Behind the Scenes for Racism On Stage
In order to tell a story, we need all aspects of the story. And that includes the difficult and tricky parts, the villains, the hurt. This conversation is real. It’s raw. It’s incredibly vulnerable. I’m joined by Victoria Omeregie and Jon Vellante in this first roundtable episode. I can’t think of two better actors for this conversation. I had the pleasure of working with them for Fairview at Speakeasy Stage in Boston. I hope you’ll join us as we discuss what it takes both on stage—but, more importantly, what it takes off-stage from the human being performing these really tough roles. (Spoiler alert: you will hear us share details about Fairview!)Grab the links and mentioned resources athttps://www.inclusivestages.com/post/Setting-boundaries-in-the-theaterConnect with Victoria:WebsiteFat Ham at the Alliance Theater in AtlantaConnect with Jon:WebsiteInstagramRegister Now for our Fall CohortConnect with Kira:@kiratroilo @artandsoulconsulting @inclusivestages"'Black Hair'" Is Hair: An Entertainment Industry Guide WebsiteJoin our mailing list - scroll to the bottom of the pageThanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.

Apr 16, 2024 • 28min
Dangers of DEI Work Gone Wrong
Welcome to my first solo podcast episode! I’m discussing DEI work gone wrong and why I prefer to say EDI work. Words matter and there’s a very subtle difference between the two acronyms. I’ll share about the unique considerations for EDI work for the arts. But this episode is mostly focused on the 5 signs of bad DEI work we should all be aware of and my 5 commitments to you for the work we’re going to do with this podcast. What is DEI and EDI work truly about? What do shame, guilt, and vulnerability have to do with this? Why does bad DEI work simply not work? And what can we do about it? I’ll be sharing all this and more in this episode! I’d love to hear your thoughts, so be sure to find me after the show!Grab the links and mentioned resources athttps://inclusivestages.com/post/dangers-of-dei-work-gone-wrongRegister Now for our Fall CohortConnect with Kira:@kiratroilo @artandsoulconsulting @inclusivestages"'Black Hair'" Is Hair: An Entertainment Industry Guide WebsiteJoin our mailing list - scroll to the bottom of the pageThanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.

Apr 9, 2024 • 48min
Broadway Bodies: Industry Bias and Dreamgirls with Ryan Donovan
Have you ever stopped to think about the people—the actual humans—whose bodies are telling stories on stage? Or about the history of musical theater? How about the implicit bias that goes into what we see on stage? When I began doing EDI work for theater and the arts, I couldn’t find many resources about the topic of inclusion and Broadway musicals. That is… until I found the book called Broadway Bodies: A Critical History of Conformity. You’ll meet author, dancer, and scholar Ryan Donovan in this episode. In this thoughtful conversation, we discussed some of our favorite shows and performers, the kinds of discrimination performers face in the industry, and what’s still left to be realized on stage. I know you're going to love this conversation, whether you're a theater artist, audience member, or just interested in learning more about the history of Broadway. But actors—I think you’ll feel very very seen in this conversation.Grab the links and mentioned resources athttps://inclusivestages.com/post/broadway-bodies-industry-bias-and-dreamgirls-with-ryan-donovanConnect with Ryan:WebsiteRegister Now for our Fall CohortConnect with Kira:@kiratroilo @artandsoulconsulting @inclusivestages"'Black Hair'" Is Hair: An Entertainment Industry Guide WebsiteJoin our mailing list - scroll to the bottom of the pageThanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.

Apr 2, 2024 • 53min
The Power of Support and Color Conscious Storytelling with Corbin Bleu
Being a multiracial actor is a unique experience. You feel pulled in several directions quite often and don’t always see a spot for someone like you on the screen or stage. I’m so grateful to have Corbin Bleu joining me for this conversation about this very topic! Not only am I a fan, we recently had the chance to work together on the world premiere of Summer Stock at the Goodspeed Opera House. Corbin shares so many great insights for actors, and specific advice for taking care of yourself while being part of this wild industry. I know you'll love everything he has to say, so without further ado, let’s get to the show!Grab the links and mentioned resources athttps://www.inclusivestages.com/post/the-power-of-support-color-conscious-storytelling-with-corbin-bleuConnect with Corbin:InstagramTikTokRegister Now for our Fall CohortConnect with Kira:@kiratroilo @artandsoulconsulting @inclusivestages"'Black Hair'" Is Hair: An Entertainment Industry Guide WebsiteJoin our mailing list - scroll to the bottom of the pageThanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.

Apr 2, 2024 • 25min
Inclusion Consultants and Why Every Show Needs One
Other industries have people who can help employees and employers navigate conflict or difficult conversations, so why doesn’t the theater industry? Inclusion consultants (or EDI consultants) aren’t new, but it’s a newer role in theaters and the arts. Today, I’m sharing more about my work in this industry, how I got here, and what I’m doing to further this work and help even more people! Inclusive Stages isn’t just the name of this podcast—it’s a brand, a framework, and a movement. And it’s here to be the help we’ve needed for so long in performance and rehearsal spaces. Together, we’re going to change the industry—one stage at a time!Grab the links and mentioned resources athttps://www.inclusivestages.com/post/inclusion-consultants-why-every-show-needs-oneRegister Now for our Fall CohortConnect with Kira:@kiratroilo @artandsoulconsulting @inclusivestages"'Black Hair'" Is Hair: An Entertainment Industry Guide WebsiteJoin our mailing list - scroll to the bottom of the pageThanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.

Apr 2, 2024 • 47min
Setting the Stage: Introducing Kira Troilo
This is your host, Kira Troilo, and today I’m joining you from the guest seat! In this podcast, I speak with theater makers, artists, directors, actors, and lovers and I ask them to share and be vulnerable. So, it only feels right for me to kick off the podcast by doing the same. You’ll hear about my childhood, life in the theater, who I am, the work I’m doing, and how exactly I got to this place. This episode means so much to me because, although I’ve written about my experiences, this is the first time I’ve shared my story using my voice. Thank you so much for being here! Enjoy the show!Grab the links and mentioned resources athttps://www.inclusivestages.com/post/setting-the-stage-introducing-kira-troiloConnect with Rachel:WebsiteTikTokInstagramRegister Now for our Fall CohortConnect with Kira:@kiratroilo @artandsoulconsulting @inclusivestages"'Black Hair'" Is Hair: An Entertainment Industry Guide WebsiteJoin our mailing list - scroll to the bottom of the pageThanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.

Mar 26, 2024 • 3min
Welcome to Inclusive Stages
Welcome to 'Inclusive Stages' -- the go-to weekly podcast for theater makers, theater artists and theater lovers who want to make our industry a better place for everyone. We'll chat with actors, directors, designers, scholars and more about the current landscape of the theater scene, and get their thoughts on how we can do better. Host Kira Troilo will also give you a sneak peak into live EDI coaching sessions, and offer actionable tips for creating more equitable, inclusive and empathetic theater spaces that support and value the diversity of artists and audiences. Join the conversation, and let's collectively shape the future of care-forward creative spaces, one stage at a time.Connect with Kira:@kiratroilo @artandsoulconsulting @inclusivestages"'Black Hair'" Is Hair: An Entertainment Industry Guide WebsiteJoin our mailing list - scroll to the bottom of the pageThanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.