
Friends Without Benefits
One woman. One man. Thirty plus years of strictly platonic friendship with ZERO romantic history between them.This is Friends Without Benefits.Rachel Sobel is the face behind the popular blog and Instagram account, Whine and Cheez-its. She is the mother of two, a do-over wife, and award-winning writer, author and speaker.Dale McLean is a South Florida entertainment staple affectionately known as Uptown Dale. He is a bachelor, owner of a successful entertainment company, television personality and in-arena host for the Miami Heat.Together they tackle a range of topics around relationships, dating and current events, all with a banter that has been brewed to perfection for decades.Follow Rachel at www.instagram.com/whineandcheezitsFollow Dale at www.instagram.com/uptowndale
Latest episodes

Oct 18, 2022 • 26min
Ep. 24: She Met Her Husband After He Ditched His Girlfriend at Her Sister’s Wedding – A Marriage Story
We have the pleasure of chatting with our very first married couple on the pod tonight. But they’re not your average married couple. We don’t know what spidey senses Dale is harnessing, but he spotted them at the bar and next thing we knew, they were set up with headphones and mics and we were in for the ride of our lives. Karen first met Tim while he was dressed like a baller in a tux…fresh off of ditching his girlfriend at her sister’s wedding. These two will make you question all the stereotypes you hear about marriage. They are honest and fun and sharing A LOT with us. At one point we even thought they might become a throuple with Dale. We’re kidding, we’re kidding! Kind of. Join us as we jog down memory lane and hear Karen and Tim’s unconventional love story. Strip clubs on a Sunday, canoodling in the pantry and other secrets to their happy marriage. It does not disappoint Thank you Tim and Karen for being some of the most fun guests we have ever had on FWOB! You can follow Rachel, award winning author, writer and speaker, on Instagram at @whineandcheezits ; and Dale, successful entertainment company owner and in-arena host for the Miami Heat at @uptowndale Show created and hosted by Rachel Sobel and Dale McLean. Produced and edited by Let’s Podcast Now Recorded at American Social Las Olas If you like what you hear please subscribe and better yet leave a review.

Oct 11, 2022 • 30min
Ep. 23:Corner Booth Therapy and Dale is Mistaken for a Famous Athlete
Tonight, it’s just the two of us. We’re working through a ton of listener submissions we collected in our little corner booth at American Social. Reading them, dissecting them and analyzing turns into what we’re calling Corner Booth Therapy. We are loving hearing all of the different opinions about whether or not men and women can be friends. And since our pod is built on the foundation of this notion, we are heavily invested in the feedback. Also, because Dale is dressed in a black tracksuit (it’s fancy though), expensive sneakers and some other fanfare, someone thought it was a famous athlete. We don’t think he hated it. Should we make listener submissions a regular feature?? Tell us what you think. You can follow Rachel, award winning author, writer and speaker, on Instagram at @whineandcheezits ; and Dale, successful entertainment company owner and in-arena host for the Miami Heat at @uptowndale Show created and hosted by Rachel Sobel and Dale McLean. Produced and edited by Let’s Podcast Now Recorded at American Social Las Olas If you like what you hear please subscribe and better yet leave a review.

Oct 4, 2022 • 30min
Ep. 22: Rachel and Dale Might Become Part of a Pro Wrestler’s Entourage
We have a man on the pod today who embodies the word hustle. Radio host, TV producer, comedian and soon to be pro wrestler. Oh, and he’s also an Emmy Award Winner. NBD. Fer Rojas is a man of many talents and tonight we’re walking through his journey including what landed him in the ring. We’re also talking about tattoo ideas and his thoughts on couples who have sex in public places. Or as Dale apparently calls it, Whoopie. You can find Fer on IG at @iamferrojas. You can follow Rachel, award winning author, writer and speaker, on Instagram at @whineandcheezits ; and Dale, successful entertainment company owner and in-arena host for the Miami Heat at @uptowndale Show created and hosted by Rachel Sobel and Dale McLean. Produced and edited by Let’s Podcast Now Recorded at American Social Las Olas If you like what you hear please subscribe and better yet leave a review.

Sep 28, 2022 • 33min
Ep. 21: She’s a 10 AND She’s Danced on Stages with Daddy Yankee, Pitbull and John Legend
Dale opens up about his distaste for animal print, which also happens to be a staple in Rachel’s wardrobe. And we have such a special guest today, amazing human, Jenny Valdes (@theejennyvaldes on IG). Jenny is the poster child for living your dream as she poured herself into becoming a professional dancer who has shared the stage with artists like, Pitbull, Daddy Yankee and John Legend. She also finds time to nurture your inner goddess with workshops from her company, Limitless Goddess (www.limitlessgoddess.com). We talk all about her journey, successes, embarrassing dance moments and also play an intense game of “He’s a 10 but…” hosted by Dale, who by the way still has an AOL email address in case you missed it. You can follow Rachel, award winning author, writer and speaker, on Instagram at @whineandcheezits ; and Dale, successful entertainment company owner and in-arena host for the Miami Heat at @uptowndale Show created and hosted by Rachel Sobel and Dale McLean. Produced and edited by Let’s Podcast Now Recorded at American Social Las Olas If you like what you hear please subscribe and better yet leave a review.

Sep 20, 2022 • 31min
Ep. 20: Prenups, Dog moms, Vabbing, Destination Weddings, and Strip Clubs
While Dale is a walking trend barometer, every now and then, Rachel is able to stump him with something he has never heard of. When she told him that there is a whole movement of women who are apparently engaging in a crazy trend called, vabbing, she really did him in. He was so disgusted he was almost ready to walk of the podcast and become a recluse. Just kidding, but he was shook and repulsed. And for good reason, because come on people. Stop doing this. Just buy perfume. In this episode, Rachel and Dale also talk to Tandy (who’s pup has more followers on social media than most people) about her upcoming nuptials. Since Rachel is an expert who has been married twice, she’s able to deliver some REAL marriage advice to launch Tandy into married life. Plus, both women are obsessed with their dogs and Dale can’t wrap his head around it. We’re talking about prenups, separate blankets, destination weddings, strip clubs and tons of other stuff. You can follow Rachel, award winning author, writer and speaker, on Instagram at @whineandcheezits ; and Dale, successful entertainment company owner and in-arena host for the Miami Heat at @uptowndale Show created and hosted by Rachel Sobel and Dale McLean. Produced and edited by Let’s Podcast Now Recorded at American Social Las Olas If you like what you hear please subscribe and better yet leave a review.

Sep 13, 2022 • 28min
Ep. 19: Can you use a gift card on a first date??
Imagine you are a successful entrepreneur; except you do not own a computer or even an iPad and conduct all business through an AOL account circa 1995. That’s Dale and Rachel is trying desperately to usher him into the 21st Century. In this episode, Rachel and Dale skip the guests and get into the nitty gritty on eating a meal before a night out, red lipstick, eyelash extensions, which bottled water is top tier, online dating, whether cereal is soup (yes, really) and so much more. Speaking of dating, Dale asked if it was ok to use a gift card on a first date. What do you think??! And while we didn’t have a dedicated guest on this one, we did poll the audience on some of the questions we were asking to get some other opinions in the mix. After lamenting about trying out Facebook dating, Dale even agreed to let Rachel set up a dating profile on one of the apps so stay tuned for that. You can follow Rachel, award winning author, writer and speaker, on Instagram at @whineandcheezits ; and Dale, successful entertainment company owner and in-arena host for the Miami Heat at @uptowndale Show created and hosted by Rachel Sobel and Dale McLean. Produced and edited by Let’s Podcast Now Recorded at American Social Las Olas If you like what you hear please subscribe and better yet leave a review.

Sep 6, 2022 • 29min
Ep. 18: Life Updates and Dale is Going on a Date!!
We are back at American Social for another crazy night and getting caught up on each other’s lives. Our favorite server, Taylor pops in for a little life update which leads to Dale making plans for a date!!!!! Where will he go? Will she wear sandals? Will there be food to share? We are so excited and can’t wait for the update. You can follow Rachel on Instagram at @whineandcheezits and Dale at @uptowndale Show created and hosted by Rachel Sobel and Dale McLean. Produced and edited by Let’s Podcast Now Recorded at American Social Las Olas If you like what you hear please subscribe and better yet leave a review.

Aug 31, 2022 • 29min
Ep.17: That Time Rachel Thought Dale Was Throwing a Swingers Party
We are doing a deep dive into Dale’s famous birthday extravaganzas, including Dale’s most recent one which Rachel thought might be a swinger’s theme (Dale loves a theme) because it was at a venue called the Carousel Club. After decades worth of parties, Rachel is breaking down how they usually go and even has help from special guest, Carolina!! You can follow Rachel on Instagram at @whineandcheezits and Dale at @uptowndale Show created and hosted by Rachel Sobel and Dale McLean. Produced and edited by Let’s Podcast Now Recorded at American Social Las Olas If you like what you hear please subscribe and better yet leave a review.

Aug 23, 2022 • 25min
Ep.16: Two Single Girls Walk Into A Podcast
This is the episode that made Rachel sweat as she helped referee a battle of the sexes between Dale and two single girls who were out on the town. By far the most heated debate on the pod but that’s what you get when you discuss dating in South Florida I suppose. Rachel is finally recovering from playing mediator and staunchly defending Dale’s Ralph Lauren sweater. Join us on this roller coaster of an episode. You can follow Rachel on Instagram at @whineandcheezits and Dale at @uptowndale Show created and hosted by Rachel Sobel and Dale McLean. Produced and edited by Let’s Podcast Now Recorded at American Social Las Olas If you like what you hear please subscribe and better yet leave a review.

Aug 16, 2022 • 27min
Ep. 15: An Update on Dale’s Throuple, Bad Drivers and Some Florida Sports Rivalry Talk
We are getting a long-awaited update on Dale’s throuple drama and Rachel asks if he might need to join witness protection over it. We are also joined by owner of @CanesWear, Ken Graff and talk Canes, Gators and Seminoles as well as ranting about bad drivers. There’s a lot of variety in this episode and Dale proves he would make a great hype man as he pumps Rachel up in Episode 15 of Friends Without Benefits. You can follow Rachel on Instagram at @whineandcheezits and Dale at @uptowndale Show created and hosted by Rachel Sobel and Dale McLean. Produced and edited by Let’s Podcast Now Recorded at American Social Las Olas If you like what you hear please subscribe and better yet leave a review.
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