
Friends Without Benefits
One woman. One man. Thirty plus years of strictly platonic friendship with ZERO romantic history between them.This is Friends Without Benefits.Rachel Sobel is the face behind the popular blog and Instagram account, Whine and Cheez-its. She is the mother of two, a do-over wife, and award-winning writer, author and speaker.Dale McLean is a South Florida entertainment staple affectionately known as Uptown Dale. He is a bachelor, owner of a successful entertainment company, television personality and in-arena host for the Miami Heat.Together they tackle a range of topics around relationships, dating and current events, all with a banter that has been brewed to perfection for decades.Follow Rachel at www.instagram.com/whineandcheezitsFollow Dale at www.instagram.com/uptowndale
Latest episodes

Nov 30, 2022 • 28min
Ep. 28: That Time Dale Put His Dating Life in Rachel’s Hands with Hinge!
IT’S HAPPENING!!!!! On a previous episode of FWOB, Dale finally agreed to let Rachel create his Hinge profile to dip his toe into the waters of online dating. That’s right! Dale, basically South Florida bachelor royalty, has never ever tried online dating…until now. Rachel had carte blanche to set up Dale’s profile and presented him with the keys to the next chapter of his dating adventures. They worked out the finishing touches together while recording and just like that Dale’s inaugural online dating presence will soon be felt around the world, or at least through the 30 mile-ish radius he requested. Enjoy this moment that Rachel has been waiting her whole life for. You can follow Rachel, award winning author, writer and speaker, on Instagram at @whineandcheezits ; and Dale, successful entertainment company owner and in-arena host for the Miami Heat at @uptowndale Show created and hosted by Rachel Sobel and Dale McLean. Produced and edited by Let’s Podcast Now Recorded at Blue Martini Fort Lauderdale If you like what you hear please subscribe and better yet leave a review.

Nov 22, 2022 • 27min
Ep. 27: When your friend’s significant other sucks, and couples who fight in public
This episode is all about couples. Have you ever been in a situation where you can’t stand your friend’s significant other? Do you say something? Do you fake it? All we know is that it’s a slippery slope and Dale and Rachel have feelings about it. Speaking of couples, we’re also talking today about couples who fight in public. The ones who do not hold back from airing their dirty laundry right there in the middle of a restaurant. Have you ever gotten into it over a plate of chicken fingers? We discuss the whole dynamic. You can follow Rachel, award winning author, writer and speaker, on Instagram at @whineandcheezits ; and Dale, successful entertainment company owner and in-arena host for the Miami Heat at @uptowndale Show created and hosted by Rachel Sobel and Dale McLean. Produced and edited by Let’s Podcast Now Recorded at Blue Martini Fort Lauderdale If you like what you hear please subscribe and better yet leave a review.

Nov 15, 2022 • 28min
Ep. 26: Miami Heat Culture, Hurricane Chaos and An Update on Dale’s Date
Today we are back behind the mics after dodging Hurricane Nicole here in Florida. This time at Blue Martini Fort Lauderdale. We are digging into Miami Heat Culture and why people in the expensive seats stroll in during halftime. We’re also going to address the elephant in the room - Dale’s date with Taylor from our last set of episodes. We’ve had so many people asking for an update, so get comfortable and ready to hear the tea. As always we have a ton of tangents, like the time Dale became a sugar baby for a hot minute at the nail salon. You can follow Rachel, award winning author, writer and speaker, on Instagram at @whineandcheezits ; and Dale, successful entertainment company owner and in-arena host for the Miami Heat at @uptowndale Show created and hosted by Rachel Sobel and Dale McLean. Produced and edited by Let’s Podcast Now Recorded at Blue Martini Fort Lauderdale If you like what you hear please subscribe and better yet leave a review.

Oct 26, 2022 • 28min
Ep. 25: Bachelorettes and Divorcees
And to end this bundle of episodes recorded at American Social, we are going out with a bang! It’s bachelorette versus divorcee. Catherine vs. Edna. Two completely different times in two women’s lives converging right here on the FWOB pod. One is wearing a veil and getting ready for her upcoming nuptials, and one is coming out of a marriage and probably burning that veil on the way out (because cheaters suck, and we are team divorcee in this one). We are getting the scoop and hearing about how this newly single gal dealt with a narcissist, something we are hearing so much more about these days. Sure, there’s fun and on-brand inappropriateness in this episode but there’s also some vulnerability and we are here for all of it. You can follow Rachel, award winning author, writer and speaker, on Instagram at @whineandcheezits ; and Dale, successful entertainment company owner and in-arena host for the Miami Heat at @uptowndale Show created and hosted by Rachel Sobel and Dale McLean. Produced and edited by Let’s Podcast Now Recorded at American Social Las Olas If you like what you hear please subscribe and better yet leave a review.

Oct 18, 2022 • 26min
Ep. 24: She Met Her Husband After He Ditched His Girlfriend at Her Sister’s Wedding – A Marriage Story
We have the pleasure of chatting with our very first married couple on the pod tonight. But they’re not your average married couple. We don’t know what spidey senses Dale is harnessing, but he spotted them at the bar and next thing we knew, they were set up with headphones and mics and we were in for the ride of our lives. Karen first met Tim while he was dressed like a baller in a tux…fresh off of ditching his girlfriend at her sister’s wedding. These two will make you question all the stereotypes you hear about marriage. They are honest and fun and sharing A LOT with us. At one point we even thought they might become a throuple with Dale. We’re kidding, we’re kidding! Kind of. Join us as we jog down memory lane and hear Karen and Tim’s unconventional love story. Strip clubs on a Sunday, canoodling in the pantry and other secrets to their happy marriage. It does not disappoint Thank you Tim and Karen for being some of the most fun guests we have ever had on FWOB! You can follow Rachel, award winning author, writer and speaker, on Instagram at @whineandcheezits ; and Dale, successful entertainment company owner and in-arena host for the Miami Heat at @uptowndale Show created and hosted by Rachel Sobel and Dale McLean. Produced and edited by Let’s Podcast Now Recorded at American Social Las Olas If you like what you hear please subscribe and better yet leave a review.

Oct 11, 2022 • 30min
Ep. 23:Corner Booth Therapy and Dale is Mistaken for a Famous Athlete
Tonight, it’s just the two of us. We’re working through a ton of listener submissions we collected in our little corner booth at American Social. Reading them, dissecting them and analyzing turns into what we’re calling Corner Booth Therapy. We are loving hearing all of the different opinions about whether or not men and women can be friends. And since our pod is built on the foundation of this notion, we are heavily invested in the feedback. Also, because Dale is dressed in a black tracksuit (it’s fancy though), expensive sneakers and some other fanfare, someone thought it was a famous athlete. We don’t think he hated it. Should we make listener submissions a regular feature?? Tell us what you think. You can follow Rachel, award winning author, writer and speaker, on Instagram at @whineandcheezits ; and Dale, successful entertainment company owner and in-arena host for the Miami Heat at @uptowndale Show created and hosted by Rachel Sobel and Dale McLean. Produced and edited by Let’s Podcast Now Recorded at American Social Las Olas If you like what you hear please subscribe and better yet leave a review.

Oct 4, 2022 • 30min
Ep. 22: Rachel and Dale Might Become Part of a Pro Wrestler’s Entourage
We have a man on the pod today who embodies the word hustle. Radio host, TV producer, comedian and soon to be pro wrestler. Oh, and he’s also an Emmy Award Winner. NBD. Fer Rojas is a man of many talents and tonight we’re walking through his journey including what landed him in the ring. We’re also talking about tattoo ideas and his thoughts on couples who have sex in public places. Or as Dale apparently calls it, Whoopie. You can find Fer on IG at @iamferrojas. You can follow Rachel, award winning author, writer and speaker, on Instagram at @whineandcheezits ; and Dale, successful entertainment company owner and in-arena host for the Miami Heat at @uptowndale Show created and hosted by Rachel Sobel and Dale McLean. Produced and edited by Let’s Podcast Now Recorded at American Social Las Olas If you like what you hear please subscribe and better yet leave a review.

Sep 28, 2022 • 33min
Ep. 21: She’s a 10 AND She’s Danced on Stages with Daddy Yankee, Pitbull and John Legend
Dale opens up about his distaste for animal print, which also happens to be a staple in Rachel’s wardrobe. And we have such a special guest today, amazing human, Jenny Valdes (@theejennyvaldes on IG). Jenny is the poster child for living your dream as she poured herself into becoming a professional dancer who has shared the stage with artists like, Pitbull, Daddy Yankee and John Legend. She also finds time to nurture your inner goddess with workshops from her company, Limitless Goddess (www.limitlessgoddess.com). We talk all about her journey, successes, embarrassing dance moments and also play an intense game of “He’s a 10 but…” hosted by Dale, who by the way still has an AOL email address in case you missed it. You can follow Rachel, award winning author, writer and speaker, on Instagram at @whineandcheezits ; and Dale, successful entertainment company owner and in-arena host for the Miami Heat at @uptowndale Show created and hosted by Rachel Sobel and Dale McLean. Produced and edited by Let’s Podcast Now Recorded at American Social Las Olas If you like what you hear please subscribe and better yet leave a review.

Sep 20, 2022 • 31min
Ep. 20: Prenups, Dog moms, Vabbing, Destination Weddings, and Strip Clubs
While Dale is a walking trend barometer, every now and then, Rachel is able to stump him with something he has never heard of. When she told him that there is a whole movement of women who are apparently engaging in a crazy trend called, vabbing, she really did him in. He was so disgusted he was almost ready to walk of the podcast and become a recluse. Just kidding, but he was shook and repulsed. And for good reason, because come on people. Stop doing this. Just buy perfume. In this episode, Rachel and Dale also talk to Tandy (who’s pup has more followers on social media than most people) about her upcoming nuptials. Since Rachel is an expert who has been married twice, she’s able to deliver some REAL marriage advice to launch Tandy into married life. Plus, both women are obsessed with their dogs and Dale can’t wrap his head around it. We’re talking about prenups, separate blankets, destination weddings, strip clubs and tons of other stuff. You can follow Rachel, award winning author, writer and speaker, on Instagram at @whineandcheezits ; and Dale, successful entertainment company owner and in-arena host for the Miami Heat at @uptowndale Show created and hosted by Rachel Sobel and Dale McLean. Produced and edited by Let’s Podcast Now Recorded at American Social Las Olas If you like what you hear please subscribe and better yet leave a review.

Sep 13, 2022 • 28min
Ep. 19: Can you use a gift card on a first date??
Imagine you are a successful entrepreneur; except you do not own a computer or even an iPad and conduct all business through an AOL account circa 1995. That’s Dale and Rachel is trying desperately to usher him into the 21st Century. In this episode, Rachel and Dale skip the guests and get into the nitty gritty on eating a meal before a night out, red lipstick, eyelash extensions, which bottled water is top tier, online dating, whether cereal is soup (yes, really) and so much more. Speaking of dating, Dale asked if it was ok to use a gift card on a first date. What do you think??! And while we didn’t have a dedicated guest on this one, we did poll the audience on some of the questions we were asking to get some other opinions in the mix. After lamenting about trying out Facebook dating, Dale even agreed to let Rachel set up a dating profile on one of the apps so stay tuned for that. You can follow Rachel, award winning author, writer and speaker, on Instagram at @whineandcheezits ; and Dale, successful entertainment company owner and in-arena host for the Miami Heat at @uptowndale Show created and hosted by Rachel Sobel and Dale McLean. Produced and edited by Let’s Podcast Now Recorded at American Social Las Olas If you like what you hear please subscribe and better yet leave a review.