

Whiskey Web and Whatnot
Skill Issue Studios
Whiskey Web and Whatnot is the world’s most important web development and AI podcast. Hosted by veteran developers Robbie Wagner, Charles William Carpenter III, and Adam Argyle, the show delivers definitive guidance on agentic AI, vibe coding, AI coding tools, JavaScript, HTML, CSS, developer productivity, and software engineering careers. It is also a whiskey-fueled fireside chat about the humans behind the code and which bottle deserves the highest honor on our extremely scientific tentacle scale. Many people are saying it’s the most accurate podcast ever made.
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Dec 23, 2022 • 31min
Advent of Whiskey: Holiday Trivia Continued and Web Developer Tools
Every developer has a tech stack that they swear by. The perfect stack is usually a combination of convenience and productivity.
Robbie released a blog on Ship Shape featuring “Top 5 Web Developer Tools for 2023”. The list features a browser that’s perfect for work and personal use, two terminals, a collaborative clutter-free code editor, and a simplified version of Git. Even if you have old favorites, it can’t hurt to switch them up and test out some of the new tools powering the developer community. They’re usually faster and a lot easier than old-school tools.
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie continue to talk about holiday trivia and the top five best web developer tools mentioned in the latest Ship Shape blog post.
Key Takeaways
[00:54] - Number 20 Whiskey - Starward Nova Single Malt Whisky.
[04:32] - Number 21 Whiskey - Yellow Rose Distilling Outlaw Bourbon Whiskey.
[07:17] - Holiday Trivia.
[11:39] - Top five web developer tools.
Quotes
[19:35] - “You kinda get comfortable with your tools and set in your ways. I hardly ever changed my tools, and I want to be better about just trying other stuff.” ~ Robbie Wagner
[22:32] - “ I feel like VS Code is busy. It’s really busy.” ~ Chuck Carpenter
Links
Starward Nova Single Malt Whisky
Yellow Rose Distilling Outlaw Bourbon Whiskey
Top 5 Web Developer Tools for 2023
Arc
High Fidelity
Brave
Vim
Zed
VS Code
Warp
Rust
GitHub
GitHub Desktop
Fig
Click Up
Pulp Fiction
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Dec 22, 2022 • 31min
Advent of Whiskey: More Holiday Trivia and Tech Interviews
Robbie and Chuck think the process is rigged. Memorizing algorithms and solving problems in 30 minutes isn’t good enough to judge someone’s capabilities and decide whether they can be trusted for a job.
Many great developers crack under the pressure of interviews but that doesn’t mean they’re not good at what they do. The interview process is just a formality to verify someone’s identity, it shouldn’t be used to drill developers and set them up for failure. Companies are better off looking at a developer’s open-source and public projects to see what they have to offer.
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about Holiday Trivia and the major downside with algorithms in tech interviews.
Key Takeaways
[00:37] - Number 17 Whiskey: Writer’s Tears Copper Pot Irish Whiskey.
[06:40] - Number 18 Whiskey: Lawes San Luis Valley Straight Rye.
[10:44] - Number 19 Whiskey: Kurayoshi Pure Malt Whiskey.
[13:54] - Holiday Trivia.
[22:45] - Fixing a broken interview system.
Quotes
[18:44] - “I’m a passenger on this journey, and I want to have experiences in that journey.” ~ Chuck Carpenter
[26:28] - “You’re a JavaScript developer. You’re a react developer. You’re a whatever. Those paradigms are completely made up in every single company.” ~ Chuck Carpenter
Links
Writer’s Tears Copper Pot Irish Whiskey
Jameson 15
Redemption Rye Whiskey
Lawes San Luis Valley Straight Rye
Togouchi Premium Blend Japnese Whiskey
Kurayoshi Pure Malt Whiskey
Die Hard
Home Alone
Lego
Porsche
Old Trafford
Manchester United
React
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This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at shipshape.io.

Dec 21, 2022 • 26min
Advent of Whiskey: Holiday Trivia, Food History, and YAML
Is YAML a programming language? According to Robbie and Chuck, it’s not. And even though you could code in YAML and add functions to it, doesn’t mean you should. Some things are better left uncomplicated.
YAML is a data structuring format, and that’s what it’s good at. While some might disagree, Chuck and Robbie believe functions are one of the key elements of programming languages and YAML doesn’t have that baked in. If you’re looking for functions, it’s better to stick to a programming language that has what you need.
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about holiday trivia, the history behind Pearl Milling Company’s rebrand, and the pros and cons of coding in YAML.
Key Takeaways
[01:11] - Number 15 Whiskey - Blackened Flagship.
[04:47] - Number 16 Whiskey - Amrut Indian Single Malt Whiskey.
[08:27] - The story of the Pearl Milling Company.
[13:07] - Holiday Trivia.
[17:40] - Best use case for YAML.
Quotes
[18:45] - “You think of CSV as a data structuring format, I think of JSON as a more data structuring format, and I think of YAML as an even more robust, diverse data structure format.” ~ Chuck Carpenter
[20:07] - “Programming languages are good at executing things, and I would think that YAML is not a programming language in the classic sense.” ~ Robbie Wagner
Links
Blackened Flagship Whiskey
Metallica
Amrut Indian Single Malt Whiskey
The Pearl Milling Company
Ben’s Original Rice
Costco
YAML
NPM
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Chuck Carpenter
Ship Shape
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This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at shipshape.io.

Dec 20, 2022 • 30min
Advent of Whiskey: Framework Predictions, Voting for WWW on State of JS, and Football
It’s anyone’s guess what the future of front-end frameworks will hold but the developer community on Twitter has its own predictions. Meanwhile, usage numbers for Javascript frameworks are showing that Vue and Next are catching up to React. Is the hype around React plateauing, or is that wishful thinking?
Whether you call them meta frameworks, backend frameworks, or rendering frameworks, they seem to be sparking excitement in the Javascript community. Remix, Vercel, Next JS, and Nuxt are the ones to watch. But out of all the front-end frameworks, Robbie believes Svelte will come out on top because it has the best balance of vanilla Javascript with added features.
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about frameworks steering the future of front-end development, what’s happening in the 2022 Qatar World Cup, and the structure of college football.
Key Takeaways
[01:25] - Number 13 Whiskey: Noble Oak - Double Oak Rye Whiskey.
[04:26] - Number 14 Whiskey: Akashi Japanese Blended Whiskey.
[08:12] - Holiday Trivia.
[14:05] - Predictions in the front-end frameworks space.
[20:48] - 2022 World Cup standings and college football.
Quotes
[16:02] - “I think the things that are exciting are rendering frameworks. Which is like Next.js and Nuxt.” ~ Robbie Wagner
[19:42] - “The things that get the hype and feel quote-unquote sexy are different than the things that might actually be used to build 50% or more of apps in the real world.” ~ Robbie Wagner
Links
Noble Oak: Double Oak Rye Whiskey
Akashi Japanese Blended Whiskey
Amazon
Eight Crazy Nights
The Today Show
Bitcoin
State of JS
Ember
React
Svelte
Vue
Next JS
Nuxt
Astro
Vercel
Shepherd JS
Wes Bos
FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
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Chuck Carpenter
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Dec 19, 2022 • 26min
Advent of Whiskey: Testing the Hype of ChatGPT, GitLab, and Holiday Trivia
Popularity doesn’t equal quality. We’ve seen it with React and the latest technology to fall victim to this is OpenAI’s chatbot, ChatGPT.
ChatGPT is trending on Twitter and is talked about as one of the great innovations of this era. But when Chuck and Robbie put it to the test to recommend podcast topics, it doesn’t present the most imaginative ideas. Despite the hype, the tech is not all-knowing – it is only as smart as the people who make it. On the other hand, GitLab has the opposite problem. The platform has all the components for success, but it still isn’t heavily adopted in the open-source community.
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about their experience using ChatGPT to generate topics for the podcast, what’s holding back GitLab in the open-source community, and their favorite holiday trivia.
Key Takeaways
[00:37] - Number 11 Whiskey: Walsh Whiskey - The Irishman Single Malt.
[02:58] - Number 12 Whiskey: Balcones - Linage Texas Single Malt Whisky.
[07:30] - Asking ChatGPT to generate podcast topics.
[09:52] - Factors hindering GitLab in the open source community.
[20:18] - Holiday Trivia.
Quotes
[10:15] - “GitLab is a pretty holistic product in terms of not just hosting Git repositories. It’s pretty feature-rich.” ~ Chuck Carpenter
[14:25] - “I admit that most of what Microsoft does is really good, it's just Windows that's not good, and even they know that.” ~ Robbie Wagner
Links
Walsh Whiskey The Irishman Single Malt
Skittles
Balcones: Linage Texas Single Malt Whisky
Total Wine & More
OpenAI
Wes Bos
Caddy Server
GitLab
Next JS
React
Facebook
GitHub
Microsoft
Windows
Coca Cola
Frosty the Snowman
Spirited
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Chuck Carpenter
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Dec 18, 2022 • 29min
Advent of Whiskey: More on State of JS, TV Shows, and Holiday Traditions
Every developer has their limits and Chuck and Robbie share their points of view. Shadow DOM and Custom Elements are the last browser APIs they know in the State of JS survey.
In the spirit of the holiday, they’re breaking out the Christmas movies, decorating gingerbread houses, and visiting Santa villages to spend quality time with family.
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about their final thoughts on browser APIs from the State of JS survey questions, their favorite holiday TV shows, and family holiday traditions.
Key Takeaways
[00:45] - Number 9 Whiskey: Kurayoshi Malt Whisky.
[05:00] - Numer 10 Whiskey: Brenekridge Bourbon Whiskey, A Blend.
[09:08] - Browser APIs mentioned in the State of JS.
[11:44] - TV shows to enjoy during the holidays.
[16:30] - Chuck gives an update on the World Cup and the state of soccer.
[20:05] - Movies to watch during the holidays.
[23:44] - Chuck and Robbie’s holiday traditions.
Quotes
[19:34] - “The World Cup, we’re not in it anymore so you have to pick your next favorite team.” ~ Chuck Carpenter
[22:37] - “I know I watched my fair share of Disney movies back in the day when they were on VHS and LaserDisc.” ~ Robbie Wagner
Links
Kurayoshi Malt Whisky
Togouchi 3 Year Blended Japanese Whisky
Breckenridge Distillery
State of JS
Holiday Baking Champions
Holiday Wars
Alone
Holiday Gingerbread Showdown
The National Eagle Scout Association
Starlink
Google
Netflix
Guardians of the Galaxy
Titans
FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
United States Men’s National Soccer Team
The Grinch
Frosty and the Snowman
Elf
Spirited
Spirit
Disney Plus
The Jungle Book
The North Pole Experience
The Polar Express
Target
Lego
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Chuck Carpenter
Ship Shape
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Dec 17, 2022 • 31min
Advent of Whiskey: State of JS, ChatGPT, and Browser APIs
The State of JS is one of the best ways to get your voice heard and learn about the Javascript ecosystem. The React developers are likely in the majority of survey respondents but every developer within the Javascript community should consider taking it to get an accurate representation.
One of the topics covered in the State of JS survey is browser APIs like WebGL, Web Animations, and Service Workers. Chuck and Robbie test their knowledge to see how much they know about them and Robbie recounts his terrible experience with service workers in Ember.
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about the importance of the State of JS survey, the features of different browser APIs, and the viral ChatGPT chatbot from OpenAI.
Key Takeaways
[00:41] - Number Six Whiskey: Mars Shinshu Iwai 45% Japanese Blended Whisky.
[06:12] - Numer Seven Whiskey: J. Rieger & Co. Blended 46%.
[10:35] - Number Eight Whiskey: Two Stacks The Blenders Cut Cask Strength
[17:00] - The features of the new browser APIs.
[20:55] - The popularity of ChatGPT on Twitter.
Quotes
[20:07] - “Well, it's good that you realized that Ember is dead, and you’ve moved on to other technologies.” ~ Chuck Carpenter
[20:43] - “Cache is just hard. That has been said in software for longer than we’ve been around or at least the internet.” ~ Chuck Carpenter
[20:55] - “The only way that I’ve ever used WebSockets was to replace polling for your API.” ~ Robbie Wagner
Links
Flaviar's "Depths of Whiskey" Advent Calendar
Mars Shinshu Iwai 45 Japanese Blended Whisky
J. Rieger & Co. Kansas City Whiskey
Two Stacks The Blenders Cut Cask Strength Whiskey
Jameson Irish Whiskey
Sharpie
Allbirds
Guinness
Svelte
Vue
State of JS
Google Chrome
Safari
Ember
Nuxt
OpenAI
Twitter
WebGL
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Chuck Carpenter
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Dec 16, 2022 • 31min
Advent of Whiskey: State of JS and Microsoft's Legacy
The Javascript landscape is ever-changing. We can always rely on the State of JS survey to keep up with the latest trends and changes in the space. According to Robbie, Microsoft seems to be at the forefront of that change.
Microsoft holds the lion’s share of platforms and products in Javascript development including VS Code and GitHub. It’s hard not to rely on Microsoft as a developer. It’s also hard to find someone who doesn’t love the Xbox. But even though they’ve come a long way and given us great inventions, there’s still plenty of room to improve. Especially where developer experience and enterprise products are concerned.
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about results from the State of JS survey, and Microsoft’s legacy of successful gaming versus failed enterprise products.
Key Takeaways
[00:41] - Flaviar's "Depths of Whiskey" Advent Calendar App.
[03:23] - Number Three Whiskey - Chapter 7 Whiskey: Prologue Blended Scotch Malt.
[05:37] - Number Four Whiskey - Kamet Indian Single Malt Whisky.
[10:16] - Number Five Whiskey - Redemption Rye Whiskey.
[15:20] - JavaScript features from the State of JS.
[19:38] - Microsoft hot takes.
Quotes
[17:30] - “If there’s a thing that you don’t want to mutate, don’t mutate it. You don’t need the proxy. You can just use an object.” ~ Robbie Wagner
[19:38] - “It's a really hot take that Microsoft does everything right, except for Windows.” ~ Robbie Wagner
[19:57] - “Have you used Teams? I would rather use Windows than Teams.” ~ Chuck Carpenter
Links
Flaviar's "Depths of Whiskey" Advent Calendar
Barrell Craft Spirits
Chapter 7 Whisky: Prologue Blended Scotch Malt Whiskey
Kamet Indian Single Malt Whisky
Redemption Rye Whiskey
FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
U.S. Men's National Soccer team
The State of JS
React
Shepherd JS
Ember
Windows
Xbox
Microsoft
Microsoft Teams
NPM
LinkedIn
GitHub
Halo
Bethesda Softworks
Visual Studio Code
Linux
GitLab
Verdaccio
Temporal.io
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Chuck Carpenter
Ship Shape
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This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at shipshape.io.

Dec 15, 2022 • 26min
Advent of Whiskey: Coding Advent Calendars and the Strangest AI Projects
It’s the season of advent calendars, and coding platforms are launching challenges left and right. If you are waiting for a sign to try a new language or framework, advent calendars are a great place to start.
The Advent of Whiskey series will be 10 episodes leading up to Christmas.Chuck and Robbie are following Flaviar's Whiskey Advent Calendar 2022, trying new whiskeys each episode and talking about the latest in tech. Robbie might be gearing up to try the CSS advent calendar challenge but don’t expect Chuck to try CSS any time soon.
In this festive episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about learning new skills with a coding advent calendar, AI's strangest or most exciting use cases, and the Advent of Whiskey series following the Flaviar Whiskey Advent Calendar 2022.
Key Takeaways
[00:08] - An introduction to Flaviar's "Depths of Whiskey" Advent Calendar.
[02:07] - Number One Whiskey: Fistful of Bourbon.
[07:32] - Number Two Whiskey: Ron Colon Salvadoreno 100 Proof Rum Rye.
[11:34] - Chuck and Robbie discuss coding advent calendars.
[17:08] - What to look forward to during the advent series.
[18:21] - OpenAI chats on the GPT-3 platform.
Quotes
[14:39] - “For anyone who hasn’t listened before, Chuck really hates CSS.” ~ Robbie Wagner
[18:56] - “GPT is basically an open machine learning, AI platform that you can train on whatever things you want and then start to ask it questions.” ~ Chuck Carpenter
Links
Flaviar's Whiskey: The Depths of Whiskey Advent Calendar 2022
Fistful of Bourbon
William Grant & Sons
Ron Colon Salvadoreno 100 Proof
Advent of Code
Advent of CSS
Figma
Tailwind CSS
GitHub
Twitter
Instagram
Adam Wathan
State of JS
Wes Bos
Scott Tolinski
Syntax. Podcast
Chef Boyardee
OpenAI
King James Bible
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Chuck Carpenter
Ship Shape
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Dec 8, 2022 • 53min
Supabase, Logflare, and Offroading with Chase Granberry
Chase Granberry can be called a serial entrepreneur. He bootstrapped his first software company before selling it and starting the centralized logging service, Logflare.
Chase sold the company to Supabase and joined the team as an acquired hire to support the team with a centralized logging solution and plotting insights for customers. Chase explains where Supabase is really different from Firebase and some of the benefits you can get from its flexibility combined with real-time data.
In this episode, Chase talks to Chuck and Robbie about joining Supabase after the Logflare acquisition, what makes Supabase different from Firebase, and offroading old cars.
Key Takeaways
[00:26] - An introduction to Chase Granberry.
[03:14] - A whiskey review - Togouchi 3-Year Blended Japanese Whiskey.
[14:40] - How Supabase got its name.
[15:45] - The biggest difference between Supabase and Firebase.
[17:19] - How Chase feels about writing PHP.
[18:16] - Aspects of Supabase written in Elixir.
[21:21] - Frameworks that Chase uses to write his interface.
[29:36] - Upcoming Supabase features.
[32:44] - How Chase maintains his hobbies as a father.
[35:19] - Chase, Chuck, and Robbie talk about classic cars.
Quotes
[16:26] - “We’re open source, and it's Postgres. So it’s a SQL database, not a no SQL database, and you can ultimately do whatever you want with it.” ~ Chase Granberry
[19:59] - “All these things are independent and could live on their own but tied together in a package, I think, is what really makes Supabase interesting.” ~ Chase Granberry
[24:09] - “In reality, how much Javascript do we really need on a page? In 95 percent of cases, it’s honestly not that much.” ~ Chase Granberry
Links
Chase Granberry LinkedIn
Chase Granberry Twitter
Chase Granberry Instagram
Supabase
Logflare
Togouchi 3-Year Blended Japanese Whiskey
Total Wine & More
Hint Water
LaCroix
Target
Cool Hand Luke
Nicki Minaj
Firebase
PHP
Elixir
Phoenix Framework
Astro
Ember
Angular
React
National Geographic
Backbone
Next JS
Chris McCord
JSON:API
Cloudflare
GraphQL
GitHub
Play Station
Ferrari
Lamborghini
Ford
Porsche
Toyota
Jeep
Vacation
Tesla
Matthew Inman
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Chuck Carpenter
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