Whiskey Web and Whatnot

It’s not a normal day at the office. Robbie and his family are in Phoenix and the Whiskey Web and Whatnot hosts got together to play a losing game of golf and sip margaritas followed by whiskey. In this episode, Chuck and Robbie guess whether things are Javascript packages or grocery items in a game called “Is it a JS package?”, test their knowledge of tricky Javascript syntax from WTF JS, and talk about Robbie’s experience visiting Chuck in Phoenix. Key Takeaways [00:57] - A whiskey review - Joseph Magnus Bourbon. [04:20] - Chuck and Robbie play a game called “Is it a JS package?” [17:37] - Chuck and Robbie play WTF JS. [23:58] - Chuck and Robbie whatnot about their golf game and Arizona. Quotes [19:57] - “There is a site called JSFuck, and it basically shows you a bunch of examples of how to program things out using three characters.” ~ Chuck Carpenter [20:24] - “Not many programmers know about labels in JavaScript. They are kind of interesting.” ~ Chuck Carpenter Links Joseph Magnus Hennessy NPM Android React Avocado JS Pepper JS Bread JS Butter JS jQuery Scone JS Soup JS Burrito JS Ham JS Pizza JS Google Sandwich JS BeEF JS WTF JS JSFuck Old Tucson Studios Denys Dovhan Connect with our hosts Robbie Wagner Chuck Carpenter Ship Shape Subscribe and stay in touch Apple Podcasts Spotify Google Podcasts Whiskey Web and Whatnot Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at shipshape.io.

React isn’t good at anything, except being popular. That’s a bold statement, but it’s one that Josh Collinsworth stands by. It seems like nearly every major tech company has React in their stack. But why is a framework built specifically for Facebook so popular in the general developer community? Josh Collinsworth, Senior Front End Developer at Shopify, wrote an article titled “The Self-Fulfilling Prophecy of React”. Even though Shopify uses React, Josh didn’t hold back his views on the framework. When React came about, it solved a major problem for Facebook. Since then, it’s been viewed as a solution to every problem and the tech community has been stuck in a loop of teaching React and hiring React developers. But for Josh, React isn’t a solution, it’s just a tool, and it’s not the best out there. In this episode, Josh talks to Chuck and Robbie about his viral article critiquing React’s popularity, his favorite fonts, and what it’s like juggling fatherhood with side projects. Key Takeaways [00:30] - An intro to Josh Collinsworth. [03:46] - A whiskey review - Wolves Whiskey X Willet Distillery The Rye Project Volume One Batch Two. [13:00] - Why Josh thinks React’s popularity is just a self-sustaining cycle. [39:03] - Josh’s favorite fonts. [45:00] - Josh speaks about how he maintains his hobbies being a father. [53:34] - How Shopify acquiring Remix has affected Josh. Quotes [14:04] - “If you look at the reasons you might actually pick a framework, React doesn't really tend to come out on top in any of those given categories.” ~ Josh Collinsworth [19:51] - “I think a lot of people don't realize that it hasn't aged that well. It has kind of held itself back in some ways, and the tools that we do now have offer us some advantages that React maybe can't.” ~ Josh Collinsworth [33:21] - “We're churning boot camp grads out with what we consider the minimum viable knowledge, and in this environment, that's React, and probably extremely little HTML and CSS.” ~ Josh Collinsworth Links Josh Collinsworth React Shopify CSS Tricks Complete Beginner's Guide to NPM Hacker News Remix Digital Ocean Svelte Kit Astro Solid JS Wolves Whiskey Willett Family Estate Harley Sons of Anarchy The Self-fulfilling Prophecy of React Facebook Ember Webpack Guillermo Vercel Polymer Vue Google Gap Nullvox Brew Max Howell Preact RightFont VS Code MonoLisa.dev Slack 90-Day Fiance Love Island Pwabuilder.com Xcode Electron Dun and Bradstreet Linux Snap Apple Ubuntu Stack Overflow Hydrogen Connect with our hosts Robbie Wagner Chuck Carpenter Ship Shape Subscribe and stay in touch Apple Podcasts Spotify Google Podcasts Whiskey Web and Whatnot Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at shipshape.io.

The tech layoff saga continues. The latest company in the hot seat is Twitter. After Elon Musk took control of the company, the platform has been in disarray, leaving developers out of jobs and Twitter users confused about the future of the platform. Is the tech world on fire? Whether it’s social media, browser wars, or framework debates – the tech community seems to be in disagreement or in crisis. Tech companies were aggressively hiring developers before the economic downturn. Now, these same companies are ruthlessly laying off around 15-20% of their employees. In many cases, shareholder interests are being placed above the people on the ground building the company. Where Elon Musk is concerned, it’s hard to tell his true intentions. In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about the slew of tech debates happening on Twitter, the fallout from Elon Musk’s Twitter takeover, and Robbie’s experience with Starlink. Key Takeaways [02:13] - A whiskey review - Barrell Seagrass. [10:53] - What developers are saying on Twitter about frameworks. [28:20] - How the tech world benefits from framework and browser wars. [30:18] - Chuck and Robbie discuss the layoffs happening in tech. [36:41] - The power of AWS in web hosting. [42:03] - Robbie’s Starlink experience. [46:56] - Robbie talks about his new Bronco and selling his Scout. [53:10] - Shows Chuck and Robbie are currently watching. Quotes [28:58] - “There are things that I like and dislike from every iteration of whatever wars (framework and browser wars) we have but there ultimately are beneficial things that come out of all of them.” ~ Robbie Wagner [33:52] - “Eight dollars for a Starbucks drink, enjoy it for 30 minutes, very happy. Eight dollars for a month on Twitter, super angry.” ~ Robbie Wagner [37:27] - “When AWS goes down, half the internet goes down.” ~ Chuck Carpenter Links Barrell Seagrass Phil Collins Fiori MGP George Dickel Whisky Twitter React Next Js Astro Web Pack Turbo Pack Vue Vite Gulp Rollup Remix Shopify Tea Java Script Azure Framework WASM Hulu Netflix Starbucks Amazon Amazon Web Services Rack Space Mac Starlink Eero Disney Plus Bronco Porsche Bring a Trailer Peaky Blinders Star Wars The Mandalorian Obi-Wan Kenobi Cobra Kai Karate Kid The Haunting of Hill House The Sandman DC Titans HBO Max Batman Justice League Connect with our hosts Robbie Wagner Chuck Carpenter Ship Shape Subscribe and stay in touch Apple Podcasts Spotify Google Podcasts Whiskey Web and Whatnot Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at shipshape.io.

WordPress powers over 43% of sites on the internet today, making it a powerhouse web technology. Its simplicity attracted bloggers and do-it-yourselfers who navigate the platform by Googling code snippets. That knowledge gap comes with a whole host of accessibility issues. Amber Hinds, Founder and CEO at Equalize Digital, quit her part-time gig as a freelance developer when she found WordPress was an easier way to manage content. She's been doing accessibility work on the platform since 2016 and has seen a boom in the past two years of companies searching for accessibility experts. Amber built the Accessibility Checker plugin as a guardrail to help DIYers avoid common mistakes by auditing a site and flagging accessibility issues. The plugin is also an education tool for content managers, and developers to learn about accessibility. In this episode, Amber talks to Chuck and Robbie about web accessibility on WordPress, making accessibility a priority in colleges and boot camps, and RVing around the country with her family. Key Takeaways [00:35] - An intro to Amber Hinds. [00:54] - A whiskey review - Weller Special Reserve. [07:49] - What it's like working with WordPress in 2022 compared to earlier years. [10:47] - Amber gives an overview of WordPress. [13:36] - Amber explains unique accessibility problems in WordPress. [15:47] - How Equalize Digital's plug-in audits WordPress sites. [21:55] - Amber's thoughts on how to make accessibility a priority. [35:33] - Chuck and Amber talk about RV life and being on the show, "Going RV". Quotes [08:43] - "I think the recent number that I saw was that 43% of websites are built in WordPress." ~ Amber Hinds [https://www.linkedin.com/in/amberhinds/] [23:53] - "I feel like having more general visibility about the broad range of disabilities and also putting people's faces to things is super helpful." ~ Amber Hinds [https://www.linkedin.com/in/amberhinds/] [28:33] - "Companies need to realize that accessibility is everyone's responsibility." ~ Amber Hinds [https://www.linkedin.com/in/amberhinds/] Links Amber Hinds LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/amberhinds/] Amber Hinds Twitter [https://mobile.twitter.com/heyamberhinds] Amber Hinds [https://amberhinds.com/] Equalize Digital [https://equalizedigital.com/] WordPress [https://wordpress.com/] Accessibility Checker [https://www.accessibilitychecker.org/] Weller Special Reserve [https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/w-l-weller/w-l-weller-special-reserve.html] Pappy Van Winkle [https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/van-winkle.html] Maker's Mark [https://www.makersmark.com/] Buffalo Trace Distillery [https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/] React [https://reactjs.org/] Absolut Vodka [https://www.absolut.com/] Shopify [https://www.shopify.com/] Square Space [https://www.squarespace.com/] Drupal [https://www.drupal.org/] Matt Mullenweg [https://ma.tt/] Automattic [https://automattic.com/] Magic Mouse [https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MK2E3AM/A/magic-mouse-white-multi-touch-surface] Logitech Lift [https://www.logitech.com/en-us/products/mice/lift-vertical-ergonomic-mouse.html] Mac [https://www.apple.com/lae/mac/] Darci USB [https://www.specialneedscomputers.ca/index.php?l=product_detail&p=4948]

Working on open source projects is a largely thankless job and a labor of love. The developers behind these projects often juggle full-time jobs to pay their bills while maintaining the software that keeps so much of the internet afloat. Max Howell, CEO of tea.inc., pivoted from chemistry to web development because of his fascination for open source. He worked full-time and did pull requests for Homebrew during his free time. After hustling to build a package manager used by engineers working for corporate giants like Google and Microsoft, he reached an inevitable burnout. Max created tea.inc. to fairly compensate open source developers for the work they do with the hope that open source work will be lucrative and sustainable full-time. The project has raised 18 million so far and it's set to launch in early November. In this episode, Max talks to Chuck and Robbie about the burnout of working on underfunded open source projects, why he left Homebrew despite its success, and launching tea.inc. as a Web3 solution for funding open source. Key Takeaways [00:21] - An introduction to Max Howell. [01:15] - A whiskey review - American Highway Reserve Bourbon. [07:18] - Max's new project, tea.inc. [26:21] - Max speaks about England. [32:12] - Max discusses his U.S. journey. [33:28] - Why Google turned down Max. Quotes [08:15] - "I look back on the iPhone as the pivotal moment, really, when development suddenly became cool." ~ Max Howell [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mxcl] [13:27]- "I had a moment of inspiration where I could see how the open source ecosystem, with all its dependencies and all these packages could be similarly compensated." ~ Max Howell [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mxcl] [22:50] - "The bottom fell out of the boot camp market because it was a bit of a scam in some ways. You can't learn to program in 10 weeks is the truth of it." ~ Max Howell [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mxcl] Links Max Howell [https://mxcl.dev/] Max Howell Twitter [https://twitter.com/mxcl] MaxHowell LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mxcl] Tea.xyz [https://tea.xyz/https://tea.xyz/] Homebrew [https://brew.sh/] Microsoft [https://www.microsoft.com/] American Highway Reserve [https://seelbachs.com/products/american-highway-reserve] Jefferson's Ocean [https://jeffersonsbourbon.com/jeffersons-ocean-bourbon/] Sacred Stave [https://santanspirits.com/santan-spirits/sacred-stave-bourbon/] Russell Crowe [https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000128/] Mac  [https://www.apple.com/lae/mac/] Windows [https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows] Linux [https://www.linux.org/] Sagamore [https://www.nativespiritsonline.com/products/sagamore-signature-rye] iPhone [https://www.apple.com/lae/iphone/] PromiseKit [https://github.com/PromiseKit] Timothy Lewis [https://www.linkedin.com/in/timothytlewis] Faker.js [https://fakerjs.dev/guide/] GitHub [https://github.com/] Slack [https://slack.com/] Heineken [https://www.heineken.com/] Google [https://www.google.com/] Twitter [https://twitter.com/] Weather.com [https://weather.com/] Hacker News [https://thehackernews.com/] Mark Zuckerburg [https://www.instagram.com/zuck/?hl=en] Apple [https://www.apple.com/store]

While multi-page apps (MPAs) seem like a new fixation for the developer community, they're pretty ancient news. If you were browsing the web in the 90s, you were likely visiting a multi-page app. Lucky for us, web tech improved, and made the entire experience of multi-page apps more appealing. One of the cons of MPAs is that they don't have preload and prefetch out of the box. Single-page apps (SPAs) on the other hand give you the power to decide how your site loads by loading all the resources for your current page and fetching resources for a page you might navigate to after. This might seem small but it makes a huge impact on your site.  The good news is, more computing power gave way to better server-rendered technology, a huge win for multi-page apps. Unlike single-page apps (SPAs), multi-page apps parse very little JavaScript. That shaves seconds off your initial load which is no small feat.  In this episode, Chuck and Robbie discuss the pros and cons of multi-page apps, the benefits and the distinction between prefetch vs preload, and the good old days on the internet. Key Takeaways [02:10] - A whiskey review - Wolves Signature Blend Special Release. [08:02] - Chuck and Robbie discuss multi-page apps. [13:46] - Advantages and disadvantages of multi-page apps. [27:13] - Robbie's opinion on the React Framework.   [35:47] - Chuck and Robbie reminisce about StumbleUpon and earlier social media sites. [41:52] - Chuck and Robbie discuss their parents' internet use. [44:30] - Chuck and Robbie talk about their weekend. Quotes [8:15] - "Were you around in 1998 when the Internet was first blowing up? You were also on a multi-page app. It was just served by different technologies." ~ Chuck Carpenter [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd] [10:56] - "Just HTML is actually pretty good, and it feels like people getting into the industry these days aren't getting exposed to it enough." ~ Robbie Wagner [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90] [29:29] - "I'm sorry for all of our Ember listeners who are here to listen to me talk about good things about Ember, but the new add-on V2 stuff is some bullshit." ~ Robbie Wagner [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90] Links Wolves Whiskey [https://wolveswhiskeyca.com/] React [https://reactjs.org/] Nuxt JS [https://nuxtjs.org/] Java Script [https://www.javascript.com/] Astro [https://astro.build/] Twitter [https://twitter.com/?lang=en] StumbleUpon [https://www.stumbleupon.com/] Pam [https://www.pamcookingspray.com/] The Office [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0386676/] GitHub [https://github.com/] Orbit [https://orbit.love/] Preact [https://preactjs.com/] Meta [https://about.meta.com/] Ember [https://emberjs.com/] Web Pack [https://webpack.js.org/] Chris Manson [https://dev.to/real_ate] Embroider [https://github.com/embroider-build/embroider] Null Vox [https://nullvoxpopuli.com/] Gateway [https://www.gateway.com/worldwide/] Digg [https://digg.com/] Reddit [https://www.reddit.com/] Tik Tok [https://www.tiktok.com/en/] CNet [https://www.cnet.com/] IRS [https://www.irs.gov/] Download.com [https://www.download.com/] Tesla [https://www.tesla.com/]

Maintaining a CSS codebase can become chaotic pretty quickly and building a new stylesheet for every project can get tedious. Frameworks like Tailwind CSS were born to solve this problem. Adam Wathan, CEO of Tailwind Labs, built a "library-style CSS" for personal use and had no idea the concept would resonate with as many people as it did. When developers started asking him to share his library for them to use in their own projects, he got to work building out the framework. Two years after Tailwind CSS's launch, Adam released Headless UI to bring unstyled compatible UI components into the fold. Since then, it's sparked polarizing discourse between developers who either love it or hate it.  In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk to Adam about what motivated him to create Tailwind CSS, how Headless UI was born, why Tailwind is creating polarizing discourse among developers, and his powerlifting past. Key Takeaways [00:35] - An introduction to Adam Wathan. [01:55] - A whiskey review - W3WC Sagamore Rye Barrel Pick #001. [06:51] - Adam explains Tailwind CSS. [09:47] - The problems that inspired Adam to create Tailwind. [35:24] - How Headless UI fits into Tailwind. [41:09] - Whether Tailwind will support other frameworks in the future. [44:33] - Adam's powerlifting career. Quotes [16:47] - "I started noticing that the only things that really survived every port were the things that were lower and lower level. Something like a class that adds margin left to something that's useful in every project, but a button might look different in every project." ~ Adam Wathan [https://twitter.com/adamwathan] [23:40] - "The main problem that Tailwind is ultimately trying to solve is giving inline style superpowers. It's not like inline styles are evil, it's like inline styles are awesome. Let's make them super awesome." ~ Adam Wathan [https://twitter.com/adamwathan] [24:10] - "To me, Tailwind is basically inline styles with a bunch of extra power bolted on." ~ Adam Wathan [https://twitter.com/adamwathan] Links Adam Wathan [https://adamwathan.me/] Adam Wathan Twitter [https://twitter.com/adamwathan] Adam Wathan LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-wathan-9418984a/?originalSubdomain=ca] Tailwind CSS [https://tailwindcss.com/] Tailwind UI [https://tailwindui.com/] Discord [https://discord.com/] CSS Zen Garden [http://www.csszengarden.com/] Nicolas Gallagher [https://nicolasgallagher.com/] Normalize CSS [https://necolas.github.io/normalize.css/] Bootstrap [https://getbootstrap.com/] Laravel [https://laravel.com/] Vue [https://vuejs.org/] React [https://reactjs.org/] Riverside [https://www.npmjs.com/~riverside] Chrome [https://www.google.com/chrome/] Stimulus [https://stimulus.hotwired.dev/reference/css-classes] Twitter [https://twitter.com/?lang=en] Select2 [https://select2.org/] BEM [https://getbem.com/] Atomic CSS [https://acss.io/] Markdown [https://daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/syntax] Headless UI [https://headlessui.com/] Select2 [https://select2.org/] Svelte [https://svelte.dev/] Caleb Porzio [https://calebporzio.com/] Alpine JS [https://alpinejs.dev/] Solid JS [https://www.solidjs.com/]

There's a lot to consider before committing to a framework to build a native app. If you choose to build in native, ask yourself whether you're prepared to handle the downsides that come with it.   To start, you're limited to one framework and writing in one programming language. If you're not familiar with the syntax, that could pose a major learning curve. With native apps, it's tempting to have a separate app for every device that a user might run your app on, but on the operations front, that's a slippery slope with high overhead costs. If you're on a tight budget or working on small teams like Chuck and Robbie, the cost of paying developers to maintain a bunch of apps isn't appealing. There's no shame in knowing your resource limitations and taking the easy route.  In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about the trade-off between building native apps in Swift, Objective-C, React Native, and other web technologies, why they enjoy progressive web apps, and Disney's monopoly in media.  Key Takeaways [02:21] - A whiskey Review - Four Roses Small Batch Select. [11:11] - Chuck and Robbie discuss building apps in different frameworks. [22:58] - Chuck and Robbie talk about progressive web apps. [34:54] - TV Shows Chuck and Robbie are currently watching. [51:46] - Chuck and Robbie's Halloween plans. Quotes [03:16] - "It's crazy how no one has money because of the recession, and yet everything that you could possibly buy is super expensive and sold out all the time. It doesn't make sense." ~ Robbie Wagner [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90] [23:04] - "You feel like businesses don't feel like they have a presence unless they're in the App Store." ~ Chuck Carpenter [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd] [25:05] - "The one thing that has been that I've used as a progressive web app that's worked well is Google Photos." ~ Robbie Wagner [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90] Links Four Roses Bourbon Small Batch Select [https://fourrosesbourbon.com/bourbon/small-batch-select/] Costco [https://www.costco.com/] WhistlePig Rye Whiskey [https://whistlepigwhiskey.com/] Sagamore Spirit [https://sagamorespirit.com/] White Dog Distilling [https://www.whitedogdistilling.com/] Buffalo Trace Distillery [https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/] Android [https://www.android.com/] Java Script [https://www.javascript.com/] iPhone [https://www.apple.com/iphone/] Flutter [https://flutter.dev/] Google [https://www.google.com/] iOS [https://www.apple.com/ios/ios-16/] React Native [https://reactnative.dev/] Expo [https://expo.dev/] Capacitor [https://capacitorjs.com/] Electron [https://www.electronjs.org/] Samsung [https://www.samsung.com/us/] Roku [https://www.roku.com/] NextJS [https://nextjs.org/] iPad [https://www.apple.com/ipad/] Apple [https://www.apple.com/] Chrome [https://www.google.com/chrome/] Hulu [https://www.hulu.com/] Wuf.plus [https://wuf.plus/] Astro [https://www.astro.org/] Ember [https://emberjs.com/] JSON API [https://jsonapi.org/] Solid [https://www.solidjs.com/] American Horror Story [https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/american-horror-story] Game of Thrones [https://www.hbo.com/game-of-thrones]

Every once in a while a new framework rises to popularity and gets the developer community buzzing. One of the frameworks with the most momentum right now is SolidJS. But what makes Solid so special? Dan Jutan, Product Manager at Astro, Inc. and SolidJS core team member believes the frameworks that prioritize developer experience will always come out on top. Before he landed at Solid, Dan started his career using Vue 3. It didn't take long before he was overwhelmed by the API surface and was searching for a framework that aligned with his values as a developer. Solid has a reputation as one of the fastest frameworks and also combines features from frameworks like React and Vue without any of the issues that bog them down. In this episode, Dan talks to Chuck and Robbie about his journey exploring different frameworks early in his career, why the developer community loves SolidJS, and the connection between being a programmer and a musician. Key Takeaways [00:59] - An intro to Dan. [02:55] - A whiskey review - Frey Ranch Bourban. [09:01] - Dan explains Solid. [14:27] - Why Dan prefers Solid over other frameworks. [20:47] - Specific use cases for Solid. [28:07] - How Dan connected Chuck and Robbie with Astro on Twitter. [45:25] - Dan speaks about his music and Taylor Swift. Quotes [10:00] - "The special thing about Solid is that it combines something you might be used to from React, which is these functional JSX components, with something you might be used to in Vue 3 or even older frameworks." ~ Dan Jutan [https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-jutan-5bb78222b/] [14:00] - "With Solid I was just like, oh this simple thing from React without the annoying part of React. And with the simple thing from Vue, without the baggage from Vue." ~ Dan Jutan [https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-jutan-5bb78222b/] [24:28] - "If you're looking for a framework to run that interactive part of the page, Solid is a great choice because it's super small and super fast." ~ Dan Jutan [https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-jutan-5bb78222b/] Links Dan Jutan LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-jutan-5bb78222b/] Dan Jutan Twitter [https://twitter.com/jutanium?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor] Astro [https://astro.build/] Solid [https://www.solidjs.com/] Game of Thrones [https://www.hbo.com/game-of-thrones] Frey Ranch Bourbon [https://freyranch.com/straight-bourbon-whiskey/] Vue [https://vuejs.org/] React [https://reactjs.org/] Knockout JS [https://knockoutjs.com/] Ember [https://emberjs.com/] RX JS [https://rxjs.dev/] Preact [https://preactjs.com/] Svelte [https://svelte.dev/]   Codemirror [https://codemirror.net/] Next [https://nextjs.org/] Twitter [https://twitter.com/?lang=en] Remix [https://remix.run/] Solid Start [https://docs.solidjs.com/start] Ryan Florence [https://ryanflorence.com/] Kent C. Dodds [https://kentcdodds.com/] Nuxt [https://nuxtjs.org/] JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com/] Paramore [https://www.paramore.net/] Panic! At The Disco [https://panicatthedisco.com/tour] Fall Out Boy [https://falloutboy.com/tour] Justin Timberlake [https://justintimberlake.com/] Taylor Swift [https://www.taylorswift.com/]

The beauty of tech is that it keeps evolving. As a developer, it's important to keep evolving too. Whether that's trying new frameworks, starting side projects, or adopting emerging tech. JavaScript, for example, has taken on a whole new purpose since it was developed in the 90s to support a web browser. The language keeps developers like Robbie intrigued with features that seem underpromoted and underused by the community. At ShipShape, Chuck and Robbie are always experimenting. They're embracing Astro with plans to transition their website from Nuxt, developing a scheduling app, and most importantly they just launched the Whiskey Web and Whatnot NFT. In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about underrated JavaScript features, where to find the Whiskey Web and Whatnot NFT, and why Robbie can't decide on a new car. Key Takeaways [01:22] - Chuck and Robbie introduce their NFT. [04:11] - A whiskey review - Starlight Distillery Single Barrel Hubbard's Original Rick House of Indiana Straight Rye Whiskey. [09:35] - The difference between Maps and Sets in JavaScript. [22:52] - Chuck and Robbie discuss a scheduling app they're developing. [36:10] - Chuck and Robbie critique Solid, Astro, and React. [44:02] - Robbie whatnots about Ciroc Vodka. [45:13] - Chuck and Robbie discuss streaming services, TV shows, and Ryan Reynolds. [52:45] - What Robbie thinks about different trucks. Quotes [22:58] - "Internally, we're known for some technologies, but we're always experimenting with different things coming up as much as we can." ~ Chuck Carpenter [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd] [39:42] - "So the cool thing about Astro is they have support for a lot of different types of frameworks like Vue, Preact, React, and Svelte. If it's a hot thing that someone has mentioned recently, they've got it." ~ Robbie Wagner [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90] [41:44] - "I think for people that like React and want something that's not React just because React is super old, you could try Solid out." ~ Robbie Wagner [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90] Links Bitski.com/Shipshapecode [https://www.bitski.com/@Shipshapecode/created] Huber's Starlight Distillery Old Rickhouse Indiana Straight Rye Whiskey [https://www.huberwinery.com/product/old-rickhouse-rye-whiskey/] Seelbach [https://seelbachs.com/] Sagamore Rye [https://sagamorespirit.com/spirits/signature-rye-whiskey/] JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com/] Oracle [https://www.oracle.com/id/] Gerber [https://www.gerber.com/] Hoover [https://hoover.com/] Mad Men [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0804503/] Ember [https://emberjs.com/] The Doors [https://thedoors.com/] React [https://reactjs.org/] Vue 3 [https://vuejs.org/] Nuxt [https://nuxtjs.org/] Expo [https://expo.dev/] iOS [https://www.apple.com/lae/ios/ios-16/] Jest [https://jestjs.io/] Cypress [https://www.cypress.io/] Playwright [https://playwright.dev/] Ember [https://emberjs.com/] Hacktoberfest [https://hacktoberfest.com/] Dependabot [https://github.com/dependabot] Digital Ocean [https://www.digitalocean.com/] Chris Coyier [https://chriscoyier.net/] CSS-Tricks [https://css-tricks.com/] CodePen [https://codepen.io/]