

Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Web Development, Neat
RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III, The Radcast Network
Veteran web developers RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III host this informal, whiskey-fueled fireside chat with your favorite web devs. They discuss all things web development including JavaScript, TypeScript, EmberJS, React, Astro, SolidJS, CSS, HTML, Web3, and more. They take a unique approach and focus on getting to know the human side of developers and their hobbies outside of work, all while sampling a new whiskey that they rate on their unique tentacle scale.
Episodes
Mentioned books

Nov 3, 2022 • 57min
Funding Open Source Projects, Leaving Homebrew, and Launching Tea with Max Howell
Working on open source projects is a largely thankless job and a labor of love. The developers behind these projects often juggle full-time jobs to pay their bills while maintaining the software that keeps so much of the internet afloat.
Max Howell, CEO of tea.inc., pivoted from chemistry to web development because of his fascination for open source. He worked full-time and did pull requests for Homebrew during his free time. After hustling to build a package manager used by engineers working for corporate giants like Google and Microsoft, he reached an inevitable burnout. Max created tea.inc. to fairly compensate open source developers for the work they do with the hope that open source work will be lucrative and sustainable full-time. The project has raised 18 million so far and it's set to launch in early November.
In this episode, Max talks to Chuck and Robbie about the burnout of working on underfunded open source projects, why he left Homebrew despite its success, and launching tea.inc. as a Web3 solution for funding open source.
Key Takeaways
[00:21] - An introduction to Max Howell.
[01:15] - A whiskey review - American Highway Reserve Bourbon.
[07:18] - Max's new project, tea.inc.
[26:21] - Max speaks about England.
[32:12] - Max discusses his U.S. journey.
[33:28] - Why Google turned down Max.
Quotes
[08:15] - "I look back on the iPhone as the pivotal moment, really, when development suddenly became cool." ~ Max Howell [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mxcl]
[13:27]- "I had a moment of inspiration where I could see how the open source ecosystem, with all its dependencies and all these packages could be similarly compensated." ~ Max Howell [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mxcl]
[22:50] - "The bottom fell out of the boot camp market because it was a bit of a scam in some ways. You can't learn to program in 10 weeks is the truth of it." ~ Max Howell [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mxcl]
Links
Max Howell [https://mxcl.dev/]
Max Howell Twitter [https://twitter.com/mxcl]
MaxHowell LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mxcl]
Tea.xyz [https://tea.xyz/https://tea.xyz/]
Homebrew [https://brew.sh/]
Microsoft [https://www.microsoft.com/]
American Highway Reserve [https://seelbachs.com/products/american-highway-reserve]
Jefferson's Ocean [https://jeffersonsbourbon.com/jeffersons-ocean-bourbon/]
Sacred Stave [https://santanspirits.com/santan-spirits/sacred-stave-bourbon/]
Russell Crowe [https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000128/]
Mac [https://www.apple.com/lae/mac/]
Windows [https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows]
Linux [https://www.linux.org/]
Sagamore [https://www.nativespiritsonline.com/products/sagamore-signature-rye]
iPhone [https://www.apple.com/lae/iphone/]
PromiseKit [https://github.com/PromiseKit]
Timothy Lewis [https://www.linkedin.com/in/timothytlewis]
Faker.js [https://fakerjs.dev/guide/]
GitHub [https://github.com/]
Slack [https://slack.com/]
Heineken [https://www.heineken.com/]
Google [https://www.google.com/]
Twitter [https://twitter.com/]
Weather.com [https://weather.com/]
Hacker News [https://thehackernews.com/]
Mark Zuckerburg [https://www.instagram.com/zuck/?hl=en]
Apple [https://www.apple.com/store]
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Oct 27, 2022 • 60min
Multi-Page Apps, Prefetch vs Preload, and Web Nostalgia
While multi-page apps (MPAs) seem like a new fixation for the developer community, they're pretty ancient news. If you were browsing the web in the 90s, you were likely visiting a multi-page app. Lucky for us, web tech improved, and made the entire experience of multi-page apps more appealing.
One of the cons of MPAs is that they don't have preload and prefetch out of the box. Single-page apps (SPAs) on the other hand give you the power to decide how your site loads by loading all the resources for your current page and fetching resources for a page you might navigate to after. This might seem small but it makes a huge impact on your site.
The good news is, more computing power gave way to better server-rendered technology, a huge win for multi-page apps. Unlike single-page apps (SPAs), multi-page apps parse very little JavaScript. That shaves seconds off your initial load which is no small feat.
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie discuss the pros and cons of multi-page apps, the benefits and the distinction between prefetch vs preload, and the good old days on the internet.
Key Takeaways
[02:10] - A whiskey review - Wolves Signature Blend Special Release.
[08:02] - Chuck and Robbie discuss multi-page apps.
[13:46] - Advantages and disadvantages of multi-page apps.
[27:13] - Robbie's opinion on the React Framework.
[35:47] - Chuck and Robbie reminisce about StumbleUpon and earlier social media sites.
[41:52] - Chuck and Robbie discuss their parents' internet use.
[44:30] - Chuck and Robbie talk about their weekend.
Quotes
[8:15] - "Were you around in 1998 when the Internet was first blowing up? You were also on a multi-page app. It was just served by different technologies." ~ Chuck Carpenter [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]
[10:56] - "Just HTML is actually pretty good, and it feels like people getting into the industry these days aren't getting exposed to it enough." ~ Robbie Wagner [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]
[29:29] - "I'm sorry for all of our Ember listeners who are here to listen to me talk about good things about Ember, but the new add-on V2 stuff is some bullshit." ~ Robbie Wagner [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]
Links
Wolves Whiskey [https://wolveswhiskeyca.com/]
React [https://reactjs.org/]
Nuxt JS [https://nuxtjs.org/]
Java Script [https://www.javascript.com/]
Astro [https://astro.build/]
Twitter [https://twitter.com/?lang=en]
StumbleUpon [https://www.stumbleupon.com/]
Pam [https://www.pamcookingspray.com/]
The Office [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0386676/]
GitHub [https://github.com/]
Orbit [https://orbit.love/]
Preact [https://preactjs.com/]
Meta [https://about.meta.com/]
Ember [https://emberjs.com/]
Web Pack [https://webpack.js.org/]
Chris Manson [https://dev.to/real_ate]
Embroider [https://github.com/embroider-build/embroider]
Null Vox [https://nullvoxpopuli.com/]
Gateway [https://www.gateway.com/worldwide/]
Digg [https://digg.com/]
Reddit [https://www.reddit.com/]
Tik Tok [https://www.tiktok.com/en/]
CNet [https://www.cnet.com/]
IRS [https://www.irs.gov/]
Download.com [https://www.download.com/]
Tesla [https://www.tesla.com/]
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Oct 20, 2022 • 54min
Tailwind CSS, Headless UI, and Powerlifting with Adam Wathan
Maintaining a CSS codebase can become chaotic pretty quickly and building a new stylesheet for every project can get tedious. Frameworks like Tailwind CSS were born to solve this problem.
Adam Wathan, CEO of Tailwind Labs, built a "library-style CSS" for personal use and had no idea the concept would resonate with as many people as it did. When developers started asking him to share his library for them to use in their own projects, he got to work building out the framework. Two years after Tailwind CSS's launch, Adam released Headless UI to bring unstyled compatible UI components into the fold. Since then, it's sparked polarizing discourse between developers who either love it or hate it.
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk to Adam about what motivated him to create Tailwind CSS, how Headless UI was born, why Tailwind is creating polarizing discourse among developers, and his powerlifting past.
Key Takeaways
[00:35] - An introduction to Adam Wathan.
[01:55] - A whiskey review - W3WC Sagamore Rye Barrel Pick #001.
[06:51] - Adam explains Tailwind CSS.
[09:47] - The problems that inspired Adam to create Tailwind.
[35:24] - How Headless UI fits into Tailwind.
[41:09] - Whether Tailwind will support other frameworks in the future.
[44:33] - Adam's powerlifting career.
Quotes
[16:47] - "I started noticing that the only things that really survived every port were the things that were lower and lower level. Something like a class that adds margin left to something that's useful in every project, but a button might look different in every project." ~ Adam Wathan [https://twitter.com/adamwathan]
[23:40] - "The main problem that Tailwind is ultimately trying to solve is giving inline style superpowers. It's not like inline styles are evil, it's like inline styles are awesome. Let's make them super awesome." ~ Adam Wathan [https://twitter.com/adamwathan]
[24:10] - "To me, Tailwind is basically inline styles with a bunch of extra power bolted on." ~ Adam Wathan [https://twitter.com/adamwathan]
Links
Adam Wathan [https://adamwathan.me/]
Adam Wathan Twitter [https://twitter.com/adamwathan]
Adam Wathan LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-wathan-9418984a/?originalSubdomain=ca]
Tailwind CSS [https://tailwindcss.com/]
Tailwind UI [https://tailwindui.com/]
Discord [https://discord.com/]
CSS Zen Garden [http://www.csszengarden.com/]
Nicolas Gallagher [https://nicolasgallagher.com/]
Normalize CSS [https://necolas.github.io/normalize.css/]
Bootstrap [https://getbootstrap.com/]
Laravel [https://laravel.com/]
Vue [https://vuejs.org/]
React [https://reactjs.org/]
Riverside [https://www.npmjs.com/~riverside]
Chrome [https://www.google.com/chrome/]
Stimulus [https://stimulus.hotwired.dev/reference/css-classes]
Twitter [https://twitter.com/?lang=en]
Select2 [https://select2.org/]
BEM [https://getbem.com/]
Atomic CSS [https://acss.io/]
Markdown [https://daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/syntax]
Headless UI [https://headlessui.com/]
Select2 [https://select2.org/]
Svelte [https://svelte.dev/]
Caleb Porzio [https://calebporzio.com/]
Alpine JS [https://alpinejs.dev/]
Solid JS [https://www.solidjs.com/]
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Oct 13, 2022 • 59min
Native Apps, Progressive Web Apps, and Media Monopolies
There's a lot to consider before committing to a framework to build a native app. If you choose to build in native, ask yourself whether you're prepared to handle the downsides that come with it.
To start, you're limited to one framework and writing in one programming language. If you're not familiar with the syntax, that could pose a major learning curve. With native apps, it's tempting to have a separate app for every device that a user might run your app on, but on the operations front, that's a slippery slope with high overhead costs. If you're on a tight budget or working on small teams like Chuck and Robbie, the cost of paying developers to maintain a bunch of apps isn't appealing. There's no shame in knowing your resource limitations and taking the easy route.
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about the trade-off between building native apps in Swift, Objective-C, React Native, and other web technologies, why they enjoy progressive web apps, and Disney's monopoly in media.
Key Takeaways
[02:21] - A whiskey Review - Four Roses Small Batch Select.
[11:11] - Chuck and Robbie discuss building apps in different frameworks.
[22:58] - Chuck and Robbie talk about progressive web apps.
[34:54] - TV Shows Chuck and Robbie are currently watching.
[51:46] - Chuck and Robbie's Halloween plans.
Quotes
[03:16] - "It's crazy how no one has money because of the recession, and yet everything that you could possibly buy is super expensive and sold out all the time. It doesn't make sense." ~ Robbie Wagner [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]
[23:04] - "You feel like businesses don't feel like they have a presence unless they're in the App Store." ~ Chuck Carpenter [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]
[25:05] - "The one thing that has been that I've used as a progressive web app that's worked well is Google Photos." ~ Robbie Wagner [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]
Links
Four Roses Bourbon Small Batch Select [https://fourrosesbourbon.com/bourbon/small-batch-select/]
Costco [https://www.costco.com/]
WhistlePig Rye Whiskey [https://whistlepigwhiskey.com/]
Sagamore Spirit [https://sagamorespirit.com/]
White Dog Distilling [https://www.whitedogdistilling.com/]
Buffalo Trace Distillery [https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/]
Android [https://www.android.com/]
Java Script [https://www.javascript.com/]
iPhone [https://www.apple.com/iphone/]
Flutter [https://flutter.dev/]
Google [https://www.google.com/]
iOS [https://www.apple.com/ios/ios-16/]
React Native [https://reactnative.dev/]
Expo [https://expo.dev/]
Capacitor [https://capacitorjs.com/]
Electron [https://www.electronjs.org/]
Samsung [https://www.samsung.com/us/]
Roku [https://www.roku.com/]
NextJS [https://nextjs.org/]
iPad [https://www.apple.com/ipad/]
Apple [https://www.apple.com/]
Chrome [https://www.google.com/chrome/]
Hulu [https://www.hulu.com/]
Wuf.plus [https://wuf.plus/]
Astro [https://www.astro.org/]
Ember [https://emberjs.com/]
JSON API [https://jsonapi.org/]
Solid [https://www.solidjs.com/]
American Horror Story [https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/american-horror-story]
Game of Thrones [https://www.hbo.com/game-of-thrones]
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Oct 6, 2022 • 60min
SolidJS: The Framework Creating a Buzz with Dan Jutan
Every once in a while a new framework rises to popularity and gets the developer community buzzing. One of the frameworks with the most momentum right now is SolidJS. But what makes Solid so special?
Dan Jutan, Product Manager at Astro, Inc. and SolidJS core team member believes the frameworks that prioritize developer experience will always come out on top. Before he landed at Solid, Dan started his career using Vue 3. It didn't take long before he was overwhelmed by the API surface and was searching for a framework that aligned with his values as a developer. Solid has a reputation as one of the fastest frameworks and also combines features from frameworks like React and Vue without any of the issues that bog them down.
In this episode, Dan talks to Chuck and Robbie about his journey exploring different frameworks early in his career, why the developer community loves SolidJS, and the connection between being a programmer and a musician.
Key Takeaways
[00:59] - An intro to Dan.
[02:55] - A whiskey review - Frey Ranch Bourban.
[09:01] - Dan explains Solid.
[14:27] - Why Dan prefers Solid over other frameworks.
[20:47] - Specific use cases for Solid.
[28:07] - How Dan connected Chuck and Robbie with Astro on Twitter.
[45:25] - Dan speaks about his music and Taylor Swift.
Quotes
[10:00] - "The special thing about Solid is that it combines something you might be used to from React, which is these functional JSX components, with something you might be used to in Vue 3 or even older frameworks." ~ Dan Jutan [https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-jutan-5bb78222b/]
[14:00] - "With Solid I was just like, oh this simple thing from React without the annoying part of React. And with the simple thing from Vue, without the baggage from Vue." ~ Dan Jutan [https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-jutan-5bb78222b/]
[24:28] - "If you're looking for a framework to run that interactive part of the page, Solid is a great choice because it's super small and super fast." ~ Dan Jutan [https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-jutan-5bb78222b/]
Links
Dan Jutan LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-jutan-5bb78222b/]
Dan Jutan Twitter [https://twitter.com/jutanium?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor]
Astro [https://astro.build/]
Solid [https://www.solidjs.com/]
Game of Thrones [https://www.hbo.com/game-of-thrones]
Frey Ranch Bourbon [https://freyranch.com/straight-bourbon-whiskey/]
Vue [https://vuejs.org/]
React [https://reactjs.org/]
Knockout JS [https://knockoutjs.com/]
Ember [https://emberjs.com/]
RX JS [https://rxjs.dev/]
Preact [https://preactjs.com/]
Svelte [https://svelte.dev/]
Codemirror [https://codemirror.net/]
Next [https://nextjs.org/]
Twitter [https://twitter.com/?lang=en]
Remix [https://remix.run/]
Solid Start [https://docs.solidjs.com/start]
Ryan Florence [https://ryanflorence.com/]
Kent C. Dodds [https://kentcdodds.com/]
Nuxt [https://nuxtjs.org/]
JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com/]
Paramore [https://www.paramore.net/]
Panic! At The Disco [https://panicatthedisco.com/tour]
Fall Out Boy [https://falloutboy.com/tour]
Justin Timberlake [https://justintimberlake.com/]
Taylor Swift [https://www.taylorswift.com/]
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Sep 29, 2022 • 59min
Embracing New Tech, JavaScript, and the W3WC NFT Launch
The beauty of tech is that it keeps evolving. As a developer, it's important to keep evolving too. Whether that's trying new frameworks, starting side projects, or adopting emerging tech.
JavaScript, for example, has taken on a whole new purpose since it was developed in the 90s to support a web browser. The language keeps developers like Robbie intrigued with features that seem underpromoted and underused by the community. At ShipShape, Chuck and Robbie are always experimenting. They're embracing Astro with plans to transition their website from Nuxt, developing a scheduling app, and most importantly they just launched the Whiskey Web and Whatnot NFT.
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about underrated JavaScript features, where to find the Whiskey Web and Whatnot NFT, and why Robbie can't decide on a new car.
Key Takeaways
[01:22] - Chuck and Robbie introduce their NFT.
[04:11] - A whiskey review - Starlight Distillery Single Barrel Hubbard's Original Rick House of Indiana Straight Rye Whiskey.
[09:35] - The difference between Maps and Sets in JavaScript.
[22:52] - Chuck and Robbie discuss a scheduling app they're developing.
[36:10] - Chuck and Robbie critique Solid, Astro, and React.
[44:02] - Robbie whatnots about Ciroc Vodka.
[45:13] - Chuck and Robbie discuss streaming services, TV shows, and Ryan Reynolds.
[52:45] - What Robbie thinks about different trucks.
Quotes
[22:58] - "Internally, we're known for some technologies, but we're always experimenting with different things coming up as much as we can." ~ Chuck Carpenter [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]
[39:42] - "So the cool thing about Astro is they have support for a lot of different types of frameworks like Vue, Preact, React, and Svelte. If it's a hot thing that someone has mentioned recently, they've got it." ~ Robbie Wagner [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]
[41:44] - "I think for people that like React and want something that's not React just because React is super old, you could try Solid out." ~ Robbie Wagner [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]
Links
Bitski.com/Shipshapecode [https://www.bitski.com/@Shipshapecode/created]
Huber's Starlight Distillery Old Rickhouse Indiana Straight Rye Whiskey [https://www.huberwinery.com/product/old-rickhouse-rye-whiskey/]
Seelbach [https://seelbachs.com/]
Sagamore Rye [https://sagamorespirit.com/spirits/signature-rye-whiskey/]
JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com/]
Oracle [https://www.oracle.com/id/]
Gerber [https://www.gerber.com/]
Hoover [https://hoover.com/]
Mad Men [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0804503/]
Ember [https://emberjs.com/]
The Doors [https://thedoors.com/]
React [https://reactjs.org/]
Vue 3 [https://vuejs.org/]
Nuxt [https://nuxtjs.org/]
Expo [https://expo.dev/]
iOS [https://www.apple.com/lae/ios/ios-16/]
Jest [https://jestjs.io/]
Cypress [https://www.cypress.io/]
Playwright [https://playwright.dev/]
Ember [https://emberjs.com/]
Hacktoberfest [https://hacktoberfest.com/]
Dependabot [https://github.com/dependabot]
Digital Ocean [https://www.digitalocean.com/]
Chris Coyier [https://chriscoyier.net/]
CSS-Tricks [https://css-tricks.com/]
CodePen [https://codepen.io/]
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Sep 22, 2022 • 57min
Balancing Engineering Management, Side Hustles, and Porsches with Kelly Vaughn
We all have at least one friend who somehow finds enough hours in a day to have a full-time job and take on several side projects. How can you successfully juggle a career, side hustles, and make time for your passions?
Kelly Vaughn, Engineering Manager at Spot AI, has some thoughts. She is leading a diverse, fully remote, global team that spans from California to India. Kelly keeps her management style flexible to account for the quirks and personality types of her team. When she's not steering the ship at Spot AI, she's advising several startups and working as a consultant. Despite doing it all, she finds time for reading, cycling, and her passion for Porsches.
In this episode, Kelly talks to Chuck and Robbie about her experience leading diverse global engineering teams from agencies to SaaS companies, juggling several side hustles, and collecting Porsches.
Key Takeaways
[01:22] - An intro to Kelly Vaughn.
[02:16] - A whiskey review - Barrell Craft Spirits Grey Label Dovetail 15.
[09:07] - Kelly's current roles at Spot AI and her projects.
[12:23] - The difference between leading teams in an agency versus in a corporate environment.
[19:26] - What are the challenges of managing an international team?
[22:26] - What's Kelly's favorite leadership book?
[26:40] - Kelly speaks about her love of the Porsche Brand.
[44:25] - Kelly talks about her cycling challenge for childhood cancer research.
Quotes
[13:37] - "The speed at which you work at an agency versus a SaaS company is vastly different because of the way that you're working. You're working with multiple clients directly versus having any number of customers." ~ Kelly Vaughn [https://twitter.com/kvlly]
[16:26] - "I think what's important to remember is when you're looking for metrics for growth, you need to look beyond just the quantitative metrics and really find a way to measure the qualitative metrics as well." ~ Kelly Vaughn [https://twitter.com/kvlly]
[21:59] - "What I'm doing to manage Team A is not going to be what I need to do to manage Team B. Finding out those differences and the personality quirks is what I've been focusing on so I can make sure they get what they need, in the structure they need it." ~ Kelly Vaughn [https://twitter.com/kvlly]
Links
Kelly Vaughn Twitter [https://twitter.com/kvlly]
Kelly Vaughn LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellyvaughn/]
Spot AI [https://www.spot.ai/]
Barrell Craft Spirits Grey Label [https://www.barrellbourbon.com/barrellcraftspirits]
Sherwin Williams [https://www.sherwin-williams.com/]
Porsche [https://www.porsche.com/]
George Stag Jr [https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/stagg/stagg-jr.html]
First 90 Days [https://hbr.org/books/watkins]
Acotar [https://www.goodreads.com/series/104014-a-court-of-thorns-and-roses]
Book of the Month [https://www.bookofthemonth.com/]
Barbarians at the Gate [https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/781182.Barbarians_at_the_Gate]
The Big Short [https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/26889576-the-big-short]
Michael Lewis [https://www.michaellewiswrites.com/]
The Premonition [https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/56790170-the-premonition]
The Five Dysfunctions of a Team [https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/21343.The_Five_Dysfunctions_of_a_Team]
Spanish Love Deception [https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/54189398-the-spanish-love-deception]
Astro [https://astro.build/]
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Sep 15, 2022 • 52min
A11y Hour with Crystal Preston-Watson
Accessibility is like learning a new language, leaving many developers wondering where to start. The answer is pretty simple, start anywhere. But the onus isn’t all on devs.
Crystal Preston-Watson has partial sight and uses a screen reader in her day-to-day as a Senior Digital Accessibility Analyst at Salesforce, one of the largest tech companies in the world. As strange as it may seem, she never used a screen reader until she was asked to test one out in her previous role as a quality engineer. Once she got her hands on one, she saw just how much businesses excluded people with disabilities from their target audience.
Crystal knows first-hand how quickly the expenses rack up when the burden of accessibility is placed on people with disabilities. In her talks, she addresses this and other lessons on accessibility with a bit of humor to make the conversation more approachable and beginner-friendly.
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk with Crystal about pitching accessibility to higher-ups, the actual cost of accessibility, and her love for comedy and improv.
Key Takeaways
[01:31] - An intro to Crystal Preston-Watson.
[02:51] - A whiskey review - Johnny Drum Private Stock.
[08:51] - Crystal explains accessibility.
[11:08] - How to pitch accessibility to company leadership.
[20:42] - Crystal’s guide to setting accessibility targets within a company.
[30:24] - Crystal explains the cost and some of the challenges of being disabled.
[40:41] - Crystal talks about her love for video games.
[45:05] - Crystal talks about her love for improv.
Quotes
[17:07] - “Accessibility is everyone's concern. There are some really specific things that only a developer or tester or content creator can do, but at the end of the day, it's a very holistic thing, and everyone needs to be concerned about it.” ~ Crystal Preston-Watson
[21:33] - “If you have users that can't use your application, that is money wasted. And that's the thing, disabled people have money, and if they can't use your product then they're going to take that money somewhere else unless it is something that is very vital.” ~ Crystal Preston-Watson
[24:11] - “Everyone will use a mouse if they're not blind and visually impaired and that's just not true.” ~ Crystal Preston-Watson
Links
Crystal Preston-Watson
Crystal Preston-Watson LinkedIn
Crystal Preston-Watson Twitter
Johnny Drum Private Stock
Salesforce
Cardi B Wap
It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
Jaws Screen Reader
React
Social Security Administration
MacBook
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Sketch
VS Code
Figma
Photoshop
Hitman 3
Lost Judgement
Skyrim
PS3
Thief Gold
Breath of the Wild
Switch
Offspring
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Sep 8, 2022 • 55min
The Release of Nuxt 3 with Daniel Roe
The best way to win over a developer is to make their job simpler. The release of Nuxt 3 promises an even better developer experience than its former versions. That’s music to every developer’s ears. Who doesn’t want faster rendering?
Daniel Roe, framework architect at Nuxt Labs has been working to get Nuxt 3 production ready for a stable release. In addition to DX improvements, once N3 is out of release, you can expect hybrid rendering, less JavaScript, and a cross-platform framework that can be used with pretty much any cloud service.
This Nuxt release is casting a wide net. Daniel and the team wanted the framework to be suited for everyone from hobby bloggers to enterprises. But the biggest win might be for e-commerce sites that need speed, performance, and personalization.
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk to Daniel about the features of Nuxt 3, improving the developer experience, and his family vacation to Algarve, Portugal.
Key Takeaways
[00:38] - An introduction to Daniel Roe.
[03:29] - A whiskey review - Laphroig Lore.
[11:20] - The new features in Nuxt 3.
[19:16] - The best path to convert projects to Nuxt 3.
[32:47] - The target audience for Nuxt 2 and Nuxt 3.
[45:31] - Daniel’s holiday in Portugal .
[51:49] - David’s side project in Magic Regexp.
Quotes
[12:21] - “Some of the things that Nuxt 3 brings, well, it's been rewritten from the start, so it's given us an opportunity to do what we really wanted to do with Nuxt. And to learn from some of the mistakes we made for Nuxt 2 and adapt Nuxt for a new world. That sounds a bit crap, but more and more I think we're looking to take advantage of different kinds of hardware for rendering HTML.” ~ @danielcroe
[13:18] - “Nuxt 2, out of the box, is a bare minimum package. I did some checking on this. The cold start for the server was 300 milliseconds. With Nuxt 3, it is three milliseconds.” ~ @danielcroe
[38:48] - “I always like using suppliers that win me over because they have the best of whatever it is. They're able to meet my needs. Whether that's experience or price point or whatever it is. But they've won me over. I don't have to stay with them. I'm not forced or coerced into it. I didn't make an early choice, and now I'm reaping the whirlwind and having to pay the price for it. I'm with them because I want to be. That's the best scenario. You have the power to choose. You're choosing the platform you feel is the best.“ ~ @danielcroe
Links
Daniel Roe LinkedIn
Daniel Roe Twitter
Nuxt
Vue
Bill Bryson
Durham University
Bill Bryson Library
Laphroig Lore
Laphroig
Pringles
Vite
Webpack
TypeScript
React
Discord
Jest
JavaScript
Remix
Astro
Solid
Redwood JS
Tom Preston Warner
DigitalOcean
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Sunderland
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Sep 1, 2022 • 60min
HTML Accessibility, Package Managers, and the Whiskey Web and Whatnot NFT
Devs have a lot on their plate, but the key is to find time for what's important. Championing accessibility is only possible if devs prioritize it and a good place to start is by knowing your HTML elements. If dogs can learn 50 human words, then devs can learn 50 HTML elements.
On another note, not all package managers are made equal. Robbie has been loyal to Yarn for years and is okay with waiting a few minutes for installs. But from Chuck's operations perspective, when you're talking about continuous integration that can eat up a huge chunk of your day, it might be time to look for something that promises speed.
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about the importance of knowing your HTML elements, the pros and cons of different package managers, and the Whiskey Web and Whatnot NFT drop.
Key Takeaways
[02:09] - Why Chuck and Robbie struggle to find time for reading.
[04:43] - A whiskey review - Huling Station.
[12:27] - How many HTML elements can Chuck and Robbie name.
[26:25] - How to choose the right package manager.
[41:27] - Chuck and Robbie's eventful trips.
[56:14] - Whiskey Web and Whatnot's NFT drop.
Quotes
[03:32] - "You can fit in anything that you prioritize, right? If you said working out is the same as eating, it has to be done. You would find time." ~ @rwwagner90 [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]
[26:38] - "I think HTML is real, and it hasn't been the first-class citizen that it deserves in terms of the Internet itself, whose intention was to distribute documents and have that accessible across schools and scientific organizations and whatever else. So let's not forget what it was all about, especially if you have a content site. Give your content first-class citizenship." ~ @CharlesWthe3rd [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]
[27:32] - "NPM is the leader in the JavaScript world, although it has its proponents and opponents. Many people have jumped over to Yarn for some of its benefits over a period of time, and some of its features influenced NPM and bring people back and forth a little bit." ~ @CharlesWthe3rd [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]
Links
Charlie Gerard [https://charliegerard.dev/]
Java Script [https://www.javascript.com/]
Huling Station [https://olddominick.com/spirits/huling-station-bourbon-whiskey/]
National Geographic [https://www.nationalgeographic.com/]
Siri [https://www.apple.com/siri/]
Waze [https://www.waze.com/live-map/]
Old Domonic's [https://olddominick.com/]
Justin Timberlake [https://justintimberlake.com/]
Seelbach's [https://seelbachs.com/]
Nuxt [https://nuxtjs.org/]
JSX [https://reactjs.org/docs/introducing-jsx.html]
React [https://reactjs.org/]
NPM [https://www.npmjs.com/]
Yarn [https://yarnpkg.com/]
Github [https://github.com/]
Ember [https://emberjs.com/]
jQuery [https://jquery.com/]
Vercel [https://vercel.com/]
JSON [https://www.json.org/json-en.html]
Bun [https://bun.sh/]
Supabase [https://supabase.com/]
Firebase [https://firebase.google.com/]
Redwood [https://redwoodjs.com/]
Postgres [https://www.postgresql.org/]
DirecTV [https://www.directv.com/]
Ron Burgundy [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0357413/]
Sea World [https://seaworld.com/]
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