

Whiskey Web and Whatnot
Skill Issue Studios
Whiskey Web and Whatnot is the world’s most important web development and AI podcast. Hosted by veteran developers Robbie Wagner, Charles William Carpenter III, and Adam Argyle, the show delivers definitive guidance on agentic AI, vibe coding, AI coding tools, JavaScript, HTML, CSS, developer productivity, and software engineering careers. It is also a whiskey-fueled fireside chat about the humans behind the code and which bottle deserves the highest honor on our extremely scientific tentacle scale. Many people are saying it’s the most accurate podcast ever made.
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May 25, 2023 • 52min
Hot Takes, Bun, and Zig with Jarred Sumner
Jarred Sumner, Founder and CEO of Oven, is bringing speed to the world of Javascript with his project, Bun. Bun is a next-generation Javascript runtime bundler, transpiler, and NPM package manager that promises lightning-fast speeds. It's already making waves in the industry. The company secured seven million dollars in funding to build hosting for Bun in August 2022.
One of the secrets to Bun's success is its use of the underrated programming language Zig. Jarred explains that Zig allowed him to be incredibly productive and save time with its memory allocator. Another essential feature of Bun is its pre-allocation of almost everything, avoiding the need for dynamically pushing arrays, which can significantly slow down the process. The new version of Bun also has a different runtime than other frameworks like Node and Deno, making it even faster.
In this episode, Jarred talks to Robbie and Chuck about his views on trending Twitter topics, how his company uses benchmarks to optimize Bun's performance, and what he believes has happened to the creativity of the web.
Key Takeaways
[00:30] - Introduction to Jarred Sumner.
[01:17] - A whiskey review: Peerless Small Batch Kentucky Straight Bourbon
[04:42] - Tech hot takes.
[11:15] - Jarred’s new bundler.
[15:36] - Jarred’s reason for using Zig.
[18:52] - Upcoming hosting product Jarred’s team is working on.
[23:09] - What happened to the creativity of the web?
[27:58] - Jarred’s draft tweets.
[30:12] - Jarred’s hobbies besides coding.
[38:51] - Other developers and projects Jarred finds interesting.
Quotes
[16:06] - “Zig is really productive. I tried to use Rust, and I just had a lot of trouble being productive.” ~ Jarred Sumner
[17:55] - “For CPUs, the thing that’s slow usually is not actually the processing, it’s memory.” ~ Jarred Sumner
[22:52] - “I think that we can make the internet and Javascript applications faster, and we can make it easier to deploy, and we can make it better. It going to be a lot of work, but it's going to be really fun.” ~ Jarred Sumner
Links
Jarred Sumner
Jarred Sumner Twitter
Jarred Sumner Github
Jarred Sumner LinkedIn
Why isn’t the internet more fun and weird?
Bun
Oven
Peerless Small Batch Kentucky Straight Bourbon
BEM
GitHub
Ember JS
React
Intercom
Node JS
Deno
Zig
Rust
Google Chrome
Chromium
Vercel
Amazon Management Console
Twitter
Myspace
CNET
Reddit
Roblox
Stripe
Disney Plus
Marvel
DC
Batman Beyond
Back to the Future
The Boring Company
Netflix
Elysia JS
Wasm
Shepherd JS
Mozilla Firefox
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Chuck Carpenter
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May 18, 2023 • 57min
Native Inputs, Blockchain, and Bluesky
What happened to the blockchain? A few years ago, it seemed like the whole world had high hopes for the technology. Today, Chuck and Robbie wonder if it will ever make a comeback. In addition to following up on last week’s episode about input types, Chuck and Robbie remember the days when software piracy was rampant and how it affected the industry. This leads to a discussion about the blockchain and how everyone seemed to jump on the bandwagon a few years ago. But now, the technology seems to have faded into the background. However, Chuck and Robbie point out that the blockchain still has practical use cases, especially for things that require trust and immutability like government documents or a history of maintenance on a property.In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about the use of native inputs and how they can save time and effort, what happened to the blockchain and whether it will make a comeback, and the ebbs and flows of social media apps.
Key Takeaways
[02:21] - A whiskey review: Buffalo Trace 90 Proof.
[09:50] - Chuck and Robbie discuss native inputs that they know.
[17:52] - New features launched in Supabase.
[20:36] - Subscription models.
[23:33] - What happened to the blockchain?
[27:42] - Bluesky invites on Twitter and the current state of social media.
[40:03] - Chuck and Robbie talk about gaming.
[48:01] - The crazy offer Robbie got for his house.
[50:13] - What Chuck and Robbie have been watching.
Quotes
[09:26] - “Buffalo Trace, really good, readily available, inexpensive that is a top choice.” ~ Chuck Carpenter
[12:26] - “Oftentimes, they ask what makes a senior engineer, and I think the joy in deleting code is one of them.” ~ Chuck Carpenter
[30:21] - “When TikTok came out, I was like TikTok is dumb. No one is ever going to use this. It’s just for little kids to post dance videos and do stupid things, and now it's the biggest thing ever.” ~ Robbie Wagner
Links
Buffalo Trace 90 Proof
Sazerac Rye
Todd Snyder
Uniqlo
Coca Cola
RC Cola
PepsiRC Cola
Maker’s Mark
Babel
M&M’s
jQuery
Bootstrap
Big O Tires
Supabase
Firebase
Google
Nicki Minaj
Netlify
Vercel
Adobe Photoshop
Rust
ChatGPT
Blockchain
Twitter
Bluesky
Mastodon
TikTok
YouTube
Wes Bos
Vine
Facebook
Craigslist
Poshmark
Apple
Venmo
PayPal
The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
Super Mario Odyssey
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
Hogwarts Legacy
Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 1+2
Xbox
Nintendo Switch
8BitDo
EA
Star Wars Eclipse
Lego
Starlink
Titans
Mandalorian
Peloton
Succession
The Witcher
The Jonas Brothers
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This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at shipshape.io.

May 11, 2023 • 1h 3min
HTML, Shadowbanning, and Open Source Buyouts
Engineers often have the urge to create something bigger and better than what already exists, driven by their competitive nature. But this desire for innovation can sometimes lead to overengineering, resulting in a loss of valuable time and resources.
Robbie shares his recent frustrating experience with the custom date and time pickers in an app that left him feeling flustered and confused. Chuck believes that a developer got carried away with trying to conquer a personal challenge or solve a unique user requirement, which is a common mistake. The truth is, there's no shame in using the existing vanilla libraries that are battle-tested. Chuck and Robbie recommend starting with the base functionality provided by the browser and progressively enhancing it, rather than building entirely custom components from scratch.In this episode, Robbie and Chuck talk about the benefits and drawbacks of building custom web components versus using native browser functionalities, the complexities of the Twitter algorithm, and open-source projects that are backed by corporate funders.
Key Takeaways
[00:33] - A whiskey review: Sazerac Rye.
[06:34] - Building custom vs. browser native HTML.
[34:01] - Chuck and Robbie’s challenges with Twitter.
[37:15] - What's wrong with cryptocurrency?
[44:36] - Chuck sold his Rivian while Robbie’s house is still on the market.
[52:48] - Syntax Podcast partners with Sentry.
Quotes
[09:41] - “Ultimately, you’re always looking at what a browser provides for free and why that isn’t good enough.” ~ Chuck Carpenter
[13:08] - “Safari is the new Internet Explorer.” ~ Chuck Carpenter
[41:21] - “The nice thing with Ethereum is it is really backing most coins because people just build on top of Ethereum.” ~ Robbie Wagner
Links
Sazerac Rye
Buffalo Trace Distillery
Vuori
Jason Bateman
Rittenhouse Rye
Safari
iPhone
Internet Explorer
Progressive Web App
Chromium
Arc Browser
Brave Browser
jQuery
React
Vue.js
WordPress
Bootstrap
Material UI
Tailwind
Next.js
Vercel
Netlify
Solid JS
Svelte
Seed.run
Twitter
Shiba Inu
Bitcoin
Dogecoin
Ethereum
Benzinga
Cars & Bids
Doug DeMuro
Syntax Podcast
Porsche
ShopTalk
Wes Bos
Chris Coyier
Render ATL
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May 4, 2023 • 56min
Hot Takes, TanStack, and Open Source with Tanner Linsley
Tanner Linsley, Co-Founder and VP of UI/UX at Nozzle is known for creating some of the most popular open-source libraries in the tech space. These libraries keep the wheels turning by making things easier for him and many other developers in their day-to-day jobs.Tanner has built libraries, such as React Query and React Table, that are now part of TanStack, his branded collection of tools. TanStack's other products include a router currently in beta, TanStack Query Table, TanStack Virtual, and TanStack Ranger. Tanner explains that he started building these tools while working on his SEO analytical platform, Nozzle, where they were created to solve the challenges he faced while developing the platform. It hasn’t been easy managing the expectations of users and maintaining open-source projects without major funding, but Tanner has made an impact in the community nonetheless.
In this episode, Tanner talks to Robbie and Chuck about his take on trending tech topics, his popular open-source libraries in TanStack, and his future framework plans.
Key Takeaways
[00:24] - Introduction to Tanner Linsley.
[01:33] - A whiskey review: MONDAY Zero Alcohol Whiskey.
[11:55] - Tech hot takes.
[29:14] - What is TanStack?
[35:17] - What is a framework?
[45:08] - Tanner’s non-tech hobbies.
Quotes
[19:47] - “The ultimate UI that existed before so many other UI’s is Excel.” ~ Tanner Linsley
[24:22] - “Anytime you do anything outside of React, with state management, it’s all going to come back to use-sync-external-store.” ~ Tanner Linsley
[34:55] - “I have really big eyes for Solid right now. Even though almost everything I do is still in React. I stare at the greener grass every day, every day, for Solid.” ~ Tanner Linsley
Links
Tanner Linsley Twitter
Tanner Linsley LinkedIn
TanStack
MONDAY Zero Alcohol Whiskey
MONDAY Whiskey Sour Kit
Saturday Night Live
Ana de Armas
Diet Coca Cola
Tailwind CSS
Ryan Carniato
React
Solid JS
Preact JS
Vue
Next.js
Nozzle
Astro JS
Vite
Vercel
Remix
Shopify
Netlify
Dominik Dorfmeister
Adobe Creative Cloud
Reactathon
React Summit
React Rally
Spotify
Kent C. Dodds
Tyler McGinnis
Ryan Florence
Svelte
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This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at shipshape.io.

Apr 20, 2023 • 55min
Confluent, Kafka, and Developer Advocacy with Lucia Cerchie
When you think about the career journey of a software developer, teaching elementary school is not typically the first thing that comes to mind. But for Lucia Cerchie, Developer Advocate at Confluent, her elementary school teaching experience gave her a huge advantage in her work.
In this episode, Lucia discusses her work with Kafka, a distributed event streaming platform, and how she creates content to introduce developers to Kafka more easily, especially for beginners. She explains Kafka’s scalability and how it can handle large amounts of data in real-time, making it a great choice for processing high volumes of data. But Kafka isn’t the answer for everyone. Lucia emphasizes the importance of understanding the "why" behind using it and knowing when to leverage it based on the problem at hand.
Lucia talks to Robbie and Chuck about her journey from being an elementary school teacher to her career in developer advocacy, her work at Confluent with Kafka, and how she creates content to make complex technologies more accessible.
Key Takeaways
[00:27] - Introduction to Lucia Cerchie.
[01:46] - A whiskey review: Barrel Bourbon Batch 032.
[06:45] - Hot takes from Twitter.
[14:21] - Lucia’s path to becoming a developer advocate.
[19:58] - Lucia explains Kafka.
[26:35] - Lucia explains Confluent and its business model.
[39:15] - Programming languages Lucia has used in her tutorials.
[44:17] - Chuck, Robbie, and Lucia talk about exercise.
[47:45] - Lucia talks about her hobbies.
Quotes
[16:01] - “The motivation actually comes from back when I was teaching. Which is, I want to help other people learn and make teaching accessible.” ~ Lucia Cerchie
[25:03] - “Kafka's use cases are not just event-driven web apps. It’s things like main frame conversions, data pipelines.” ~ Lucia Cerchie
[40:08] - “I think I would recommend Python to absolute beginners to coding just because of the human readability of the language.” ~ Lucia Cerchie
Links
Lucia Cerchie Twitter
Lucia Cerchie LinkedIn
Confluent
Confluent Developer
What is Apache Kafka®? (A Confluent Lightboard by Tim Berglund) + ksqlDB
Apache Kafka Documentation
Cerchie/learn-about-CLIs
Cerchie/magic-byte-illustration
Cerchie/git-cherry-pick-tutorial
AIS demo
Barrell Bourbon Batch 032
Band-Aid
Twitter
NPM
Tailwind CSS
Vanilla CSS
Typescript
Ember JS
ThePrimeagen
IBM
GraphQL
New York Times
Wordle
Facebook
National Geographic
Socket
Vim
Kinesis Ergo
Dvorak Keyboard
Windows
Mac
Linux
Acquia
Rust
Elixir
ChatGPT
Daisy Jones & the Six
Fleetwood Mac
Stack Overflow
Neovim
CoffeeScript
WebAssembly
GitHub
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Chuck Carpenter
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Apr 13, 2023 • 1h 3min
Twitter Open Source Algorithm, Home Labs, and Chat GPT vs. Bard
Twitter released its open-source algorithm and developers like Robbie and Chuck are digging into the code to find out what they have been hiding. While the recommendation algorithm has been useful, it also has major pitfalls. Twitter’s algorithm categorizes and deprioritizes users from appearing on people's feeds which is frustrating when your page is the one being deprioritized.
Google launched its AI competitor, Bard. In a rap battle, ChatGPT emerged victorious, and the two AIs even agreed to take over the world together, which the hosts found somewhat creepy.In this episode, Robbie and Chuck talk about biases they discovered in Twitter’s open-source algorithm, how developers are turning home networks into high-tech home labs, and how Google’s new AI compares to ChatGPT.
Key Takeaways
[01:45] - A whiskey review: Jack Daniel’s Old No. 7.
[14:16] - Ways to improve safety on websites.
[20:00] - Twitter makes its algorithm open source.
[29:00] - What are home labs?
[45:05] - Bard vs. ChatGPT.
[50:47] - Virginia Tech Women’s Basketball team in the Final 4.
Quotes
[25:08] - “Twitter source code, there's a lot to start to unravel there, but it's nice that the algorithms are out.” ~ Chuck Carpenter
[29:27] - “There’s a whole culture of home lab creation, and it’s essentially like taking your home network and elevating it.” ~ Chuck Carpenter
[37:46] - “Mutanies are bad but, whenever one goes the way you want we call it a revolution instead.” ~ Robbie Wagner
Links
Jim Beam
Jack Daniel’s
Glencairn
Destination Imagination
Odyssey of the Mind
Pepsi
Miller High Life
Big League Chew
Frank Sinatra
Hpnotiq
Bacardi
Dr Pepper
Kool-Aid
GitHub Copilot
Javascript
IndexedDB
Twitter
The Primeagen
Scala
Rust
Donald Trump
Astro
Dazed and Confused
SolidJS
ChatGPT
Kubernetes
Alexa
Pi-hole
Home Assistant
Rasberry Pi
React
Minecraft
Arch Linux
Gnome
Vim
Dominos
NPM
Nextcloud
Bard
ShareGPT
GitLab
Amazon
Microsoft
Prim Logix
Virginia Tech
NCAA Tournament 2023
FIFA World Cup
ESPN
Premier League
McDonald’s
Tabasco
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Chuck Carpenter
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Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at shipshape.io.

Apr 6, 2023 • 59min
Tech Layoffs, the Economy, and Remote Work
The tech industry is still grappling with the aftermath of the second dot com crash. Executives are cash grabbing, banks are failing and the government seems to be turning a blind eye. Will executives replace all their developers with AI?
It can be difficult to not turn your frustration to the C-suite when they seem to be getting more wealthy by cutting labor costs. Meanwhile, developers are living with the uncertainty and financial burden of ongoing tech layoffs. The industry’s business practices and poor regulation seem a casualty of the pandemic from which the tech industry hasn’t recovered.
In this episode, Robbie and Chuck talk about the concerning state of the tech industry and the economy, ongoing layoffs and their impact on developers' lives, and the shift in remote work culture.
Key Takeaways
[00:35] - A whiskey review: Black Button Single Barrel Finished in Port Cask.
[08:58] - Chuck and Robbie discuss how the pandemic has affected tech jobs.
[33:34] - Chuck and Robbie discuss college loyalty.
[41:00] - Robbie talks about his upgraded camera setup.
[43:58] - Chuck receives his Rivian R1S.
Quotes
[17:15] - “I’m a fan of capitalism in general, but there has got to be more regulation around it.” ~ Robbie Wagner
[20:07] - “Everybody loves capitalism until it doesn’t work for them.” ~ Chuck Carpenter
[22:27] - “Facebook killed MySpace, and ever since, I’ve hated them.“ ~ Robbie Wagner
Links
Boyz n the Hood
Black Button Distilling
FDA
Ports of New York Winery
Salamander Signature Cake
Pepperidge Farm
Federal Reserve
American Airlines
First Republic Bank
Microsoft
Google
Facebook
Twitter
PayPal
Peter Thiel
Dogecoin
Tesla
LinkedIn
Virginia Tech
The Inn at Virginia Tech
Holiday Inn
McDonald’s
Arby’s
Chick-Fil-A
ThePrimeagen
Learn with Jason
Range Rover
Rivian
Audi
Chevrolet
Cars and Bids
Doug DeMuro
Ford
MeUndies
Hanes
Todd Snyder
Vuori
Servant
Apple
Rad
Skate or Die
Ted Lasso
Premier League
FIFA 2023
Meta
Bitski @shipshapecode
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Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at shipshape.io.

Mar 30, 2023 • 1h 10min
Exploring Open-Source and SolidJS with Ryan Carniato
Ryan Carniato, Creator of SolidJS and Principal Engineer at Netlify, has always had a love for music and tech. He set his punk rock dreams aside and settled down to become a full-time engineer.
Ryan started programming at the age of 11 and got his first job at eBay where he contributed to their top open-source project, Marko. After building his network and experience in open source, he landed a job with Netlify living many developers’ dreams of getting paid to work on open-source projects.
In this episode, Ryan talks to Chuck and Robbie about working on open-source projects, his experiences at eBay and Netlify, and his thoughts on TypeScript and inferred types versus explicit types.
Key Takeaways
[00:31] - Introduction to Ryan Carniato.
[02:18] - A whiskey review - Barrel Whiskey Infinity Barrel Project.
[10:54] - Ryan comments on tech hot takes from Twitter.
[15:21] - How Ryan started programming at 11 years old.
[19:50] - Ryan's journey into working on open-source projects.
[45:48] - Ryan talks about music, hiking, and video games.
Quotes
[13:04] - “When you think of Typescript, you think of something concrete, like something you can build on, and dependable. In Javascript, it's more like an art. Kinda like painting.” ~ Ryan Carniato
[19:14] - “I think at a young age where you can find those things that you are empowered to just do whatever you feel like, it's super powerful.” ~ Ryan Carniato
[29:14] - “Our biggest bottleneck is the network and the devices that are in the users' hands.” ~ Ryan Carniato
Links
Ryan Carniato Twitter
Mr. Solid
SoildJS
eBay
Netlify
Barrel Whiskey Infinity Barrel Project
Twitter
Motley Crue
Tailwind CSS
The Primeagen
SEGA Genesis
Nintendo
Geek Squad
Jurassic Park
Vue JS
Knockout JS
Backbone JS
Marko JS
The Madness
The Clash
High Fidelity
Angular
Ember JS
React
Svelte
Astro
Next JS
jQuery
Jason Miller
JSX
Mesa Boogie
Chrono Triggers
Dungeons & Dragons
Twitch
The Witcher 3
Gwent
Skyrim
FIFA 23
Nintendo Switch
Mario Kart
Discord
Github
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Chuck Carpenter
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This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at shipshape.io.

Mar 23, 2023 • 55min
The Benefits of Networking, Tech Conferences, and Disney World
Conferences are one of the best ways to network with like-minded developers and find new insights to bring back to your team. Plus, you might even be able to build your entire wardrobe for the year out of free swag.Chuck and Robbie are no strangers to the conference scene, they’ve attended their fair share back when developers had to find them by word of mouth. Today, there are some aggregators out which apparently have every developer conference type of thing under the sun. Whether you're going with your team or flying solo, you're bound to learn something new and hopefully come away with a few takeaways. And let's not forget the cool locations some conferences are hosted in - definitely a plus.In this episode, Robbie and Chuck talk about upcoming tech conferences in 2023, the benefits of attending conferences and networking with other engineers, and how to convince leadership to invest in conference trips for their team’s professional development.
Key Takeaways
[00:37] - A whiskey review: Nashville Barrel Company Straight Rye Whiskey.
[04:49] - Upcoming tech conferences and why attendance is beneficial.
[17:08] - Chuck and Robbie announce they will be recording WWW at EmberConf.
[21:41] - How do you attend a conference without having to pay for it?
[25:37] - Chuck’s trip to Disney World.
[40:19] - Better underwear options than MeUndies.
Quotes
[07:15] - “Going to any conference that's in a different area or potentially different subject matter than you’re used to is going to help broaden the way you look at things.” ~ Robbie Wagner
[17:11] - “We have been confirmed that we will be recording a live episode of this podcast at EmberConf.” ~ Robbie Wagner
[25:27] - “It’s important to develop your network, and in subject matters you’re interested in is a great place to do it.” ~ Chuck Carpenter
Links
Reddit
Nashville Barrel Company
Javascript
Confs.tech
Dev Events
Render ATL
Slack
Ember
Discord
VueConf US
Nuxt
EmberConf
Portlandia
LinkedIn
Disney World
The Villages
Wes Bos
ThePrimeagen
Kinesis 360
Logitech Lif for Mac
MeUndies
Saxx
My Package
J. Crew
Adidas
Nike
StockX
Stadium Goods
Puma
Mugsy Jeans
The Woman in the House Across the Street from the Girl in the Window
Shrinking
Play Station
ChatGPT
Hogwarts Legacy
Zelda
Diablo 4
Uniqlo
Vans
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Chuck Carpenter
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This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at shipshape.io.

Mar 9, 2023 • 58min
PNPM, Algorithms, and Angular
It’s hard to find a good package manager, and even the most seasoned developers still struggle to figure them out. Robbie kicks off the tech talk by sharing his misadventures trying to figure out pnpm leading Chuck to ask the burning question “Would you wear a pnpm T-shirt?”Despite Robbie’s struggles in pnpm, he still believes it is the better option compared to alternatives like npm, Yarn V1, or Yarn V3. The duo agree that pnpm fixes the biggest problem with traditional package managers like npm and Yarn V1, which is hoisting. The duo dive deep into the technical aspects of package management, discussing the challenges of installing and managing dependencies in a large-scale project, and how pnpm addresses these challenges. They cover topics like global caching, peer dependencies, and the correct way to define dependencies.In this episode, Robbie and Chuck talk about the pros and cons of pnpm, the downsides of using algorithm tests to vet developers, and the exciting new changes coming to Angular.
Key Takeaways
[00:30] - Chuck and Robbie ask for feedback and suggestions from listeners.
[03:55] - A whiskey Review: Michter’s Kentucky Straight Rye.
[09:43] - Robbie talks about his pnpm adventure.
[25:34] - Chuck and Robbie’s thoughts on algorithms testing.
[28:51] - The big changes coming to Angular.
[38:05] - Robbie talks about his 1970 Ford Bronco.
[43:22] - Chuck talks about Ted Lasso season three and other TV shows.
[53:15] - Chuck and Robbie talk about upcoming video games.
Quotes
[21:35] - “The idea of having separate apps in a separate package and piecing those together, good idea. Ember Engines, bad idea.” ~ Robbie Wagner
[32:16] - “People who have been working with Angular or even, let's say, five years ago jumped into it, got it, loved it, they really love it. They’re passionate about it.” ~ Chuck Carpenter
[25:41] - “I can't do algorithms, and I'm against algorithm tests.” ~ Robbie Wagner
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