
The Red Letter Disciple
Welcome to Red Letter Disciple, a podcast to challenge you and your church to be greater disciples of Jesus so that together we can unleash the greatest and fullest expression of Jesus possible. When we do, when we truly live as disciples of Jesus, the world will never be the same! Your host, Pastor and author Zach Zehnder, along with co-host and friend, the one the only Pastor Chris Johnson. Let’s do this.
Latest episodes

Nov 1, 2022 • 1h 1min
024: Chestly Lunday on Virtual Reality Church, How We Can be a Presence on Metaverse, and the One Thing to Know Before Creating A Discipleship Process at Your Church.
Chestly Lunday isn’t intimidated by virtual reality, atheist youth, Metaverse, or the new digital age. He embraces the challenge of finding a way to share the gospel of Jesus using new tools and strategies. Rather than feeling like you need to choose, Chestly encourages churches to get real about who they are called to reach so that discipleship can happen on a day-to-day basis. To learn more about the podcast or access the show notes, visit www.redletterpodcast.com. From personal productivity, to team leadership, to leading change, and almost any other leadership challenge you’ll face, The Art of Leadership Academy has the answers to your questions—all for the fraction of what a typical conference or consultant would cost. To learn more and to get instant access to every single course, call, and training the Academy has to offer, go to www.theartofleadershipacademy.com. As a member of the Academy, I’d love to see and connect with you there. If you join, just search for my name on the App and send me a message! Resources mentioned in the episode: ChestlyLunday.comREVEAL Study from Willow CreekDigital Church Network Key insights from the episode: The two paradigms are 1) You have to be in a building to connect, and 2) you can connect no matter where you are. - Chestly LundayEverybody having the “church on internet” conversation is over 25. - Chestly LundayOur churches reach who they are perfectly designed to reach. - Chestly LundayNobody is for everybody because everybody doesn’t show up to your church. - Chestly LundayIf you are not clear about who you are, then you’ll get lost. - Chestly LundayCulture has been making disciples for decades, and it’s better at it than the church is. - Chestly LundayInformation, experience, and relationship are the three pieces to transformation. - Chestly LundayIn the digital age, what you are going to see is the primary product of the church is not Sunday morning any more, it’s discipleship. - Chestly LundayChestly’s weekly Challenge: For the disciple: What is God saying to you, and what are you going to do about it? For the church leader: Figure out a discipleship process for your church. Are you following Jesus? Many want to be greater followers of Jesus but don’t know how. We did an extensive study of everything that Jesus commanded of us and located 5 key targets to which Jesus invited His followers. The five targets are Being, Forgiving, Serving, Giving, and Going.In partnership with LifeWay Research we created a Red Letter Challenge Assessment that will measure you according to these five targets. And the best news of all: it’s free! Not only will you get results back immediately, but you will also be presented with the next steps to help you become an even greater follower of Jesus.You can take the FREE Red Letter Challenge Assessment here. Some not-so-key insights: Chestly wants Chris J’s wardrobe consultant. Is Chestly trying to bring back four-hour sermons?Zach never got the Taco Bell Mexican pizza.Chestly has been waiting for Rosie, the house robot from the Jetsons, for a long time!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Oct 25, 2022 • 1h 1min
023: Eric Bramlett on Comedy from the Pulpit, Why Theater Artists don’t Feel Welcome at Church, and What the Beatles Have to Do With Christmas
The world’s greatest parody writer Eric Bramlett discusses the rift between the church and the theater community. He breaks down comedy, it’s place in the church, and why artists are our modern-day prophets. To learn more about the podcast or access the show notes, visit www.redletterpodcast.com. Today’s episode is brought to you by Forgiving Challenge.As Eric was talking in this interview, it showed me the power of God’s freedom that comes through forgiveness.We’d love to help you and your church discover what freedom in forgiveness feels like by exploring the powerful forgiveness that Jesus offers to each and every one of us.We’d love to introduce you to the 40-Day Forgiving Challenge.The Forgiving Challenge takes you on a life-changing journey to experience the gift of God’s grace so that you can share it with others. It also helps you identify and walk through the five phases leading to freedom. You can learn more about the challenge here!Resources mentioned in the episode: The Beatles Xmas Community Christian Church Naperville, ILPorch Light Theater GroupExponential.orgKey insights from the episode: If you can make fun of yourself, it makes you relatable. - Eric BramlettTheater artists are actively participating in creation every day. They are so close to the creative work of God; they are just missing the source. - Eric BramlettAny churches that align themselves with a political party put walls around themselves. - Eric BramlettHistorically the church has been pro-art, but in America, we just don’t see that anymore. - Eric BramlettThe artists are our modern-day prophets if they are allowed the chance to speak. - Eric BramlettEric Bramlett’s challenge: in the small stuff, extend and receive forgiveness. As Eric was talking in this interview, it showed me the power of God’s freedom that comes through forgiveness.We’d love to help you and your church discover what freedom in forgiveness feels like by exploring the powerful forgiveness that Jesus offers to each and every one of us.We’d love to introduce you to the 40-Day Forgiving Challenge.The Forgiving Challenge takes you on a life-changing journey to experience the gift of God’s grace so that you can share it with others. It also helps you identify and walk through the five phases leading to freedom. You can learn more about the challenge here!Some not-so-key insights: Eric measured all his parodies to Weird AL Yankovich, the king of parody.Red Letter Living is #29 on the Christianity charts in Kenya. A Hurrdat Media Production. Hurrdat Media is a digital media and commercial video production company based in Omaha, NE. Find more podcasts on the Hurrdat Media Network and learn more about our other services today on HurrdatMedia.com.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Oct 18, 2022 • 57min
022: Grief Counselor Sharon Zehnder on the Two Best Ways to Respond to Grief, Three Things All Pastor Wives Should Know, and What It’s Really Like to be Zach Zehnder’s Mom
Pastor’s wives wear many hats. Sharon Zehnder’s hats are wife, mother, grief counselor, speaker, and author. Going back for her master’s degree after becoming empty nesters, Sharon proves that no matter what stage in life you are in, God’s always got more for you to do. To learn more about the podcast or access the show notes, visit www.redletterpodcast.com. How do you distribute the amazing Jesus-centered content that you are creating? Carey Nieuwhof, through the Influence Kickstarter, helped my organization clarify who its target is, and this has been a game-changer for our business. Carey Nieuwhof and The Art of Leadership Academy are offering this free mastermind that will help you amplify your reach and impact online by: Identifying your dream audienceLearning how to get them to notice you and connect with you; and Figuring out which platforms are worth your time and effort and which aren’t To register for free, visit influencekickstarter.com. Building online influence doesn’t have to be intimidating or complicated. And it also doesn’t have to be gimmicky or ruin your integrity. Resources mentioned in the episode: Crosswords for Grief by Sharon ZehnderExtreme Devotion: Daily Devotional Stories Of Ancient To Modern-Day Believers Who Sacrificed Everything For Christ by Voice of the Martyrwww.griefshare.orgKey insights from the episode: Pastors' wives often feel overlooked. - Sharon Zehnder Grief is the unexpected loss of a dream. - Sharon ZehnderAll of that loss is stacking up, and we are left unable to grieve. - Zach Zehnder‘Companion-ing,’ or walking alongside someone, is how you help someone grieve. - Sharon ZehnderSometimes the less said is better. - Sharon ZehnderYou’ve got to be real, to feel, to heal. - Sharon ZehnderThe grief waits for you to deal with it. - Sharon ZehnderSharon Zehnder’s Challenge: Make someone feel important today. Are you following Jesus? Many want to be greater followers of Jesus but don’t know how. We did an extensive study of everything that Jesus commanded of us and located 5 key targets into which Jesus invites His followers. The five targets are Being, Forgiving, Serving, Giving, and Going.In partnership with LifeWay Research we created a Red Letter Challenge Assessment that will measure you according to these five targets. And the best news of all: it’s free! Not only will you get results back immediately, but you will also be presented with the next steps to help you become an even greater follower of Jesus.You can take the FREE Red Letter Challenge Assessment here. Some not-so-key insights: Chris’s jacket screams, “Make me feel important!”A Hurrdat Media Production. Hurrdat Media is a digital media and commercial video production company based in Omaha, NE. Find more podcasts on the Hurrdat Media Network and learn more about our other services today on HurrdatMedia.com.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Oct 11, 2022 • 59min
021: David Douglas on How He Went From Mailman to Addiction Recovery Director, How to not be Cynical when Helping Others, and Discovering He Has Seven Living Siblings Using Ancestry.com
David Douglas has had more than one radical 180 degree change in his life. From living as a mailman and choosing to be an addiction recovery director to DNA testing revealing an entire family and seven siblings to this adopted child. Through all of the changes, Jesus has been faithful. To learn more about the podcast or access the show notes, visit www.redletterpodcast.com. Every pastor knows small groups are important, yet a lot aren’t too happy with where their small groups are right now. You can grow your small groups right now. That’s right. We have helped more than 800 churches grow their small groups, and it’s not as hard as you think. Our super-simple, easily-doable 5-step guide to grow your small group strategy is found by clicking on this link. Resources mentioned in the episode: Hand in Hand, Lake Country, FLWhen Helping Hurts: How to Alleviate Poverty Without Hurting the Poor...and Yourself by Steven Corbett and Brian FikkertGritfest GRIT 4 LIFE: God, Relationships, Integrity, and Truth by David DouglasAddictionhelp.solutionsKey insights from the episode: Most people look at the symptoms, but they are just symptoms of an underlying problem. - David DouglasWhat the devil meant to destroy, God is using for good in your life. - Zach ZehnderEach addiction has an underlying problem. - David DouglasThere is a high amount of addition is found in postal workers, firefighters, policemen, and EMTs. - Dave DouglasLet’s not be so worried about all the things an addict did. Let’s talk about what they are going to do. -David DouglasWhen you start your search into your past [as an adopted child], make sure you know who you are. - David DouglasDavid Douglas’s Challenge: Tackle an issue you don’t like in your life by self-reflecting instead of self-condemnation. (Bonus challenge: treat your postal worker!)As David was talking in this interview, it showed me the power of God’s freedom that comes through forgiveness.We’d love to help you and your church discover what freedom in forgiveness feels like by exploring the powerful forgiveness that Jesus offers to each and every one of us.We’d love to introduce you to the 40-Day Forgiving Challenge.The Forgiving Challenge takes you on a life-changing journey to experience the gift of God’s grace so that you can share it with others. It also helps you identify and walk through the five phases leading to freedom. You can learn more about the challenge here!Some not-so-key insights: Dave absolutely did not deliver someone’s mail because of a dog. The greatest gift David ever received as a mailman was chocolate chip cookies. A Hurrdat Media Production. Hurrdat Media is a digital media and commercial video production company based in Omaha, NE. Find more podcasts on the Hurrdat Media Network and learn more about our other services today on HurrdatMedia.com.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Oct 4, 2022 • 55min
020: Bill Woolsey on the #1 Reason Why Ventures Fail, How to Build Courage and Equip Entrepreneurs, and How Mother Theresa and Mark Cuban Work Together
Bill Woolsey is excited about seeing other people’s creative ideas come to life. After serving as a pastor, Bill started Five Two, an organization which helps entrepreneurs start things! Their proven approach clarifies, equips, and activates the unique callings of others. To learn more about the podcast or access the show notes, visit www.redletterpodcast.com. Creating content is one thing. Distributing it is another. Carey Nieuwhof, through the Influence Kickstarter, helped my organization clarify who its target is, and this has been a game-changer for our business. Carey Nieuwhof and The Art of Leadership Academy are offering this free mastermind that will help you amplify your reach and impact online by: Identifying your dream audienceLearning how to get them to notice you and connect with you; and Figuring out which platforms are worth your time and effort and which aren’t To register for free, visit influencekickstarter.com. Building online influence doesn’t have to be intimidating or complicated. And it also doesn’t have to be gimmicky or ruin your integrity. Resources mentioned in the episode: Five Two Soaring Educational Services Faith at Work Devotional from Five TwoKey insights from the episode: Billions of people don’t think the way you do, and many of them live right next door to you. - Bill Woolsey87% of the people in our churches don’t know their spiritual gifting. - Zach ZehnderFive Two wants to help you clarify, equip, and activate your calling. -Bill WoolseyThe number one reason the young people from my church didn’t come back was that there were no other young people there. - Chris JohnsonThe number one reason ventures fail is that they have something nobody wants. - Bill WoolseyIf you can get “Who is this for?” right…you’re there. - Bill WoolseyEncourage means to literally “pour in courage.” - Bill WoolseyFive Two: 111 new ventures since 2015 99,505 introductions to JesusWhat’s the platter you are going to serve Jesus on? - Bill WoolseyBill Woolsey’s Challenge: If God only allowed me to minister to just one type of person, who would that person be, and what would they be like?Are you following Jesus? Many want to be greater followers of Jesus but don’t know how. We did an extensive study of everything that Jesus commanded of us and located 5 key targets into which Jesus invites His followers. The five targets are Being, Forgiving, Serving, Giving, and Going.In partnership with LifeWay Research we created a Red Letter Challenge Assessment that will measure you according to these five targets. And the best news of all: it’s free! Not only will you get results back immediately, but you will also be presented with the next steps to help you become an even greater follower of Jesus.You can take the FREE Red Letter Challenge Assessment here. Some not-so-key insights: Mother Theresa and a friendly Mark Cuban would definitely not have dated. - Chris JohnsonZach is starting a competitor ministry to Five Two called Seven and a Few. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Sep 27, 2022 • 33min
019: Nona Jones Discusses Her Battle with Insecurity, Why She is Killing Comparison, and How Social Media Can Help Grow Disciples of Jesus
Nona Jones is the Head of Global Faith Partnerships for Facebook/Meta and is a world-renowned author, pastor, and speaker. You wouldn’t think someone with her resume would ever worry about insecurity or compare herself to others. Hear her journey of how she is killing comparison, celebrating others, and using her social media as a ministry to others. To learn more about the podcast or access the show notes, visit www.redletterpodcast.com. From personal productivity, to team leadership, to leading change, and almost any other leadership challenge you’ll face, The Art of Leadership Academy has the answers to your questions—all for the fraction of what a typical conference or consultant would cost. To learn more and to get instant access to every single course, call, and training the Academy has to offer, go to theartofleadershipacademy.com. As a member of the Academy, I’d love to see and connect with you there. If you join, just search for my name on the App and send me a message! Again that’s theartofleadershipacademy.com to sign up today. Resources mentioned in the episode: Killing Comparison: Reject that You Aren’t Good Enough by Nona JonesGlobal Faith PartnershipNonaJones.comKey insights from the episode: We get lost in the transactional nature of social media. - Nona JonesSocial technology gives us access to sides of people we don’t normally see. - Nona JonesAs believers, everything we post is an opportunity to bring others closer to Jesus. - Nona Jones“It doesn’t matter how many followers you have if they are not following God too.” - Nona Jones“Insecurity isn’t caused by social media, it is revealed by it. The real cause of insecurity is ‘What is your identity tied to?’” - Nona JonesPhysical appearance is an insecure foundation: 1) you will age and 2) standards change. - Nona JonesThe biblical character Jonathan proves to us that God’s favor on someone else’s life is not a threat to the purpose on our own. - Nona JonesHumility is fully occupying your lane of life. - Nona JonesWhere insecurity sees someone as a competitor, humility sees someone to celebrate. - Nona JonesNona Jones’s Challenge: Think about who is the person who triggered your insecurity. Reach out to that person, encourage them, and pray for them.Are you following Jesus? Many want to be greater followers of Jesus but don’t know how. So we did an extensive study on everything that Jesus commanded of us and located key targets. The five targets are Being, Forgiving, Serving, Giving, and Going.In partnership with LifeWay Research, we created the FREE Red Letter Challenge Assessment that will measure you according to these five targets. You will get results back immediately and be presented with practical steps and challenges to help you become an even greater follower of Jesus.You can take the FREE Red Letter Challenge Assessment here.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Sep 20, 2022 • 49min
018: Tony Morgan from Unstuck Group, On Good and Bad Trends in the Church Right Now, How to Engage in Online Church, and How to Get Unstuck Out of Sticky Situations
There is no better time for Tony Morgan’s The Unstuck Group ministry than now. He believes that healthy churches are often stuck in a hard season. His advice for balancing discipleship and evangelism is relevant to every church and every disciple; just walk across the street. To learn more about the podcast or access the show notes, visit www.redletterpodcast.com. As an author, podcaster, blogger, communicator, or content creator, do you ever feel like you put in the same amount of effort as others, but don’t see the same results? Carey Nieuwhof and The Art of Leadership Academy have a free mastermind that will help you amplify your reach and impact online by: Identifying your dream audienceLearning how to get them to notice you and connect with you; and Figuring out which platforms are worth your time and effort and which aren’t To register for free, visit influencekickstarter.com. Building online influence doesn’t have to be intimidating or complicated. And it also doesn’t have to be gimmicky or ruin your integrity. Resources mentioned in the episode: The Unstuck Group The Unstuck Group AssessmentKey insights from the episode: In most cases, it’s not that churches are unhealthy; they are healthy churches that are just stuck. - Tony MorganIn-person attendance still seems to be a good barometer for engagement in many other areas of a church’s ministry. - Tony MorganFor those that only engage online, are we actually going to be their church in a moment of crisis? - Tony MorganIs your online service going to be your front door or just another door? - Zach ZehnderTraditional church pastors are starting to act like church planters. - Tony MorganHealthy churches need both a reach strategy and a healthy spiritual formation strategy. - Tony MorganA reach strategy should be a part of the life of every person who calls themselves a Christ follower. - Tony MorganBecause of social media, we have more relationship connections than ever, but we don’t know how to do relationships. - Tony MorganWhen there’s an interruption, we lean in. -Tony MorganRather than going across the globe, the biggest challenge I have is going across the street. - Tony MorganTony Morgan’s Challenge: Be intentional about engaging with someone who you know but don’t really know. For so many Christians, the discipleship process isn’t very clear.They know they need to go to church, pray, not sin, and maybe attend a small group. While these are great things, they don’t outline a clear path leading people to live more like Jesus. We’d love to introduce you to the 40-Day Red Letter Challenge.When you and your church take the challenge, you’ll have a clear 40-day discipleship path that will help you master five key areas of discipleship.You can learn more about the challenge here!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Sep 13, 2022 • 59min
017: Myron Pierce on What Disciples can Learn from Gang Culture, How God Rescued Him from a 200-Year Prison Sentence, and How He is Teaching Entrepreneurs to Own the Pond
Myron Pierce opens up his story and how he went from a troubled teenager with a 200-year prison sentence to becoming a leader or leaders, an entrepreneur, a pastor, a father, a husband, an author, and so much more! To learn more about the podcast or access the show notes, visit www.redletterpodcast.com. Today’s episode is brought to you by Red Letter Living. Pastors and church leaders, we create 40-day challenges that have helped more than 800 churches produce greater disciples. Not only this, but our resources grow small groups by more than 40%. If you are a pastor or church leader, not only can you find out more at this link, but you can also request a FREE 40-day challenge mailed to your door there.As you plan for the end of this Fall or even the start of the New Year, we’d love to partner with you and we have some amazing deals with our ready-to-go church packs. But, first, get a FREE copy on us.Resources mentioned in the episode: Digital Ministry: Pastoring In a Pandemic by Myron Pierce Shift OmahaThe Entrepreneurial Learning InitiativeOwn the Pond SummitMyronPierce.comMission Church Key insights from the episode: Myron, a man who once had a 200 year sentence, is now speaking to 200 prisons. In order for Paul to write “I can do all things through him who strengthens me”, he had to experience something to validate that conclusion. - Myron PierceI’ve survived prison, I’ve seen peopel stabbed, iv’e seen people die, i’ve seen gange riots break out, ive seen gang fights in prison….but God told me, “Your purpose is bigger than your prison.” - Myron PierceGangs taught me how to disciple people. - Myron PierceSometimes I don’t need to open my mouth for evangelism. I just need to actually do the work so that people can open their mouth for me. - Myron PierceThe largest missional and entrepreneurial incubator on the planet is the local church. - Myron Pierce“It used to be ‘Give a man to fish, feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish, feed him for life.’ We say, “Own the pond!” - Myron Pierce “What if we made 10% of North Omaha’s inner city population, 7,000 people, into entrepreneurs?”- Myron PierceMyron Pierce’s Challenge: Evaluate yourself: how much time are you spending making disciples? Use Myron’s HOPE method. For so many Christians, the discipleship process isn’t very clear.They know they need to go to church, pray, not sin, and maybe attend a small group. While these are great things, they don’t outline a clear path leading people to live more like Jesus. We’d love to introduce you to the 40-Day Red Letter Challenge.When you and your church take the challenge, you’ll have a clear 40-day discipleship path that will help you master five key areas of discipleship.You can learn more about the challenge here!Some not-so-key insights: Prison is like a WalMart that you can’t get out of. - Chris JohnsonWe are going to blow the hinges off of hell! - Myron PierceSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Sep 6, 2022 • 58min
016: Jeff Kloha, Chief Curatorial Officer of The Museum of the Bible, On why the Bible isn’t Boring and the Most Misunderstood Concept in the Bible
Chief Curatorial Officer of the Museum of the Bible in Washington D.C., Dr. Jeff Kloha, gives us a glimpse into the wonderful world of the museum, his opinions on YouVersion Bible App, and why he is optimistic about people’s Bible reading habits. To learn more about the podcast or access the show notes, visit www.redletterpodcast.com. As an author, podcaster, blogger, communicator, or content creator, do you ever feel like you put in the same amount of effort as others, but don’t see the same results? Carey Nieuwhof and The Art of Leadership Academy have a free mastermind that will help you amplify your reach and impact online by: Identifying your dream audienceLearning how to get them to notice you and connect with you; and Figuring out which platforms are worth your time and effort and which aren’t To register for free, visit influencekickstarter.com. Building online influence doesn’t have to be intimidating or complicated. And it also doesn’t have to be gimmicky or ruin your integrity. Resources mentioned in the episode: The Bible Museum YouVersion Bible AppThe Samaritans: A Biblical People ExhibitKey insights from the episode: When people hear the word ‘museum,’ most of them think “boring, dusty, old.” When people hear the word ‘Bible,’ what do they think? “Boring, dusty, old”….so what could possibly be more boring than The Museum of the Bible? It’s like “boring squared.” The goal was to create a space to showcase the Bible in an engaging way. - Jeff KlohaSome positives that we should be focusing on with Bible reading statistics are that people who don’t read the Bible are open to reading it; they just don’t know how to get started. - Jeff Kloha YouVersion’s findings indicate that more people are engaging during the week: Monday through Saturday than they were pre-COVID. - Jeff KlohaLet’s be creative in how we are bringing God’s Word to people. - Jeff KlohaThe key to all this, and it’s always been this way, it’s up to us as individual people to come alongside, to find out where people are at, and to help them find their way into the Bible. - Jeff KlohaIt has always been the people of God bringing the Word of God to others. - Jeff KlohaWhat really was the draw [to the job of chief curatorial officer] was to try to do something different. - Jeff KlohaBeginner readers of the Bible need to go to the Psalms. - Jeff KlohaThe phrase “kingdom of God” occurs 105 times in the gospels. - Jeff KlohaA non-negotiable is to love your neighbor. - Jeff KlohaDr. Jeff Kloha’s Challenge: Pick up the Bible and read for seven days in a row. Dr. Kloha has given his life to help people understand God through the Bible. Did you know that studying Scripture is one of the 5 Keystone habits of Jesus? That’s right. If you want to go deeper into leading yourself (and your church) to building the habits of Jesus, we’d love to introduce you to the 40-Day Being Challenge.Many Christians today aren’t great at maintaining the habits of Jesus. Even the most “mature” Christians struggle with opening up in community, prioritizing prayer, and seeking regular solitude. But that doesn’t have to be your story. The Being Challenge guides you through 40 days of practical, simple-to-understand challenges to help you learn, develop, and grow in the five keystone habits of Jesus.You can learn more about the challenge here!Some not-so-key insights: What could possibly be more boring than The Museum of the Bible? It’s like “boring squared.”Being a chief curatorial officer does not mean Dr. Kloha goes around with a cowboy hat and bullwhip and collects artifacts.Professor Kloha’s favorite classes to teach were the ones Zach and Chris were NOT in! (Just kidding!)One of Dr. Jeff Kloha’s goals is to be less snarky than he was when he was a professor. As soon as he sees Zach and Chris, it all kicks back in. Dr. Jeff Kloha threatened to give Zach and Chris a Greek quiz after the interview!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Aug 30, 2022 • 1h
015: Pastor Mark Schulz on His Ministry to the LGBTQ community, What It’s Like to Be Newly Retired, and The Best Chicago Deep Dish Pizza
Pastor Mark Schulz may be retired, but he’s not tired! He shares what retirement has been like for him so far and why he believes God is calling him to minister to the LGBTQ community. Pastor Schulz also addresses how to avoid placing too much identity in your career, and last but not least, where to get the best pizza in Chicago! To learn more about the podcast or access the show notes, visit www.redletterpodcast.com. very pastor knows small groups are important, yet a lot aren’t too happy with where there small groups are right now. You can grow your small groups right now. That’s right. We have helped more than 750 churches grow their small groups, and it’s not as hard as you think. Our super-simple, easily-doable 5-step guide to grow your small group strategy is found by clicking on this link. Resources mentioned in the episode: Robert Colb - The Christian Faithfullyandtruly.orgMarkschulz@fullyandtruly.orgKey insights from the episode: You can’t run away from God; eventually, He gets you where He wants you to be. - Mark SchulzDon’t sweat the big stuff all the time. - Mark SchulzWhen you show up in the little things, God works in big ways. - Zach ZehnderI wasn’t ready for the “Now what do I do?” piece of retirement. - Mark SchulzI’m one who believes that what you want to do and what you should be doing ought to be pretty meshed in your life. - Mark SchulzHow do I stay faithful to what God’s Word has to say and yet lead with love and grace, which is what I believe God wants us to do? - Mark SchulzThe good first right question to ask is not “Is being gay a sin?”; the good first question to ask is “Where is your source of identity?” - Mark Schulz86% of the LGBT community grew up in a faith-based community. - Mark Schulz75% of the gay community long to return to the faith of their youth if they felt like they would be welcome. (In the average American population, the same claim is 9%). - Mark SchulzThe first thing we need to do is listen more and talk less. - Mark SchulzMark Schulz’s Challenge: Have one spiritual conversation with someone this week. As Mark was talking in this interview, it showed me how much collective work we have to when it comes to forgiveness.We’d love to help you and your church discover what freedom in forgiveness feels like by exploring the powerful forgiveness that Jesus offers to each and every one of us.We’d love to introduce you to the 40-Day Forgiving Challenge.The Forgiving Challenge takes you on a life-changing journey to experience the gift of God’s grace so that you can share it with others. It also helps you identify and walk through the five phases leading to freedom. You can learn more about the challenge here!Some not-so-key insights: Luminati's is the best pizza in Chicago, and if you're going to get Chicago pizza, deep-dish is the way to go. - Mark SchulzWrite three wedding messages in seminary, and you never need to write another wedding message. - Chris JohnsonMaybe we ought to start serving mimosas and egg sandwiches at church. - Chris JohnsonSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.