
The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill
How can you become a game changer?Michael Mogill, Founder and CEO of Crisp, has used his mastery of marketing for lawyers to grow his company to an 8-figure powerhouse. In just a few years, Crisp has helped thousands of attorneys adapt to the new legal landscape, differentiate themselves from the competition, and earn millions in new revenue.In every episode, you’ll hear from law firm entrepreneurs and market leaders — people who flourish in the face of adversity, challenge the status quo, and define what it means to be a game changer.We investigate success stories and business growth and scalability strategies that can help you attract your ideal clients. Plus, discover hidden insights and actionable advice on how company culture and employee engagement, marketing and advertising, and management and hiring fit into the big picture.What do all our guests have in common? These successful attorneys and business owners prove that the key to innovation is a game-changing mindset. If you want to run your law firm like an entrepreneur, achieve a greater ROI, and build a world-class organization that stands the test of time, then you’re in good company.Subscribe to the Game Changing Attorney Podcast and get ready to take your business to the next level.For more information, visit https://www.crisp.co/podcast/
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Jan 16, 2025 • 23min
329. AMMA — Crush Goals, Not Excuses: Turn Empty Resolutions Into Results
How can you shift from sitting back and letting things unfold to taking charge and guaranteeing success in your practice?In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill unpacks how law firm owners can stop relying on fleeting motivation and instead cultivate an unwavering commitment to their vision. Success doesn’t come by accident — it’s built through intentional long-term planning and execution.Here’s what you’ll take away:
How adopting a “Make It Happen” mindset can motivate you by fostering accountability and proactive goal-setting
The significance of commitment over motivation, emphasizing the need for consistent effort, clear goal-setting, and strategic planning
Why planning ahead enables you to set achievable goals over an extended timescale, allowing for realistic growth and sustainable success
By defining clear goals and prioritizing consistent progress, you can escape the chaos of daily demands and focus on sustainable growth strategies. Leaders who foster this mindset empower their teams to execute at a higher level, align their daily actions with their vision, and ultimately transform their firms into market leaders.----Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction02:16 – Making Things Happen vs. Letting Things Happen05:34 – Why Lowering Your Goals Leads to Mediocrity07:15 – How to Make Success Inevitable09:43 – The Role of Accountability and Clear Metrics13:47 – Pivoting vs. Staying the Course: How to Decide18:32 – Balancing Ambition with Realistic Timelines21:36 – The Power of Long-Term Thinking22:11 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways----Links & Resources:FalconsPatriotsBill PerkinsJames ClearAtomic Habits by James ClearJay PapasanThe One Thing by Gary Keller and James PapasanWillpower Doesn't Work by Benjamin HardyIronman----Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify. Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel.----Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.----If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like:
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Jan 14, 2025 • 41min
328. Sherry Stewart Deutschmann — Transform Your Business with Bold, People-First Leadership [Encore Edition]
How do empathy and employee investment transform a business into a powerhouse of growth and innovation?In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill interviews Sherry Stewart Deutschmann, entrepreneur, speaker, and author of Lunch With Lucy: Maximize Your Profits By Investing In Your People. From humble beginnings, Sherry built a 40 million dollar company that was included in the Inc. 5000 List of Fasting Growing Private Companies for 10 years straight.Here’s what you’ll take away:
How an employee-centric approach can drive business success by fostering transparency, trust, and engagement among your team
The importance of empathetic leadership that enables you to connect with your employees on a personal level and integrate their feedback into actionable business improvements
Why company-wide financial transparency leads to a more motivated, cohesive team that drives profitability and growth
The secret to building a thriving law firm isn’t just about financial growth — it’s about elevating and empowering your team. Success comes from creating a people-first culture where employees are supported, challenged, and inspired to grow. When you invest in your team and align them with a shared vision, you unlock their full potential, driving results and redefining success not just for your business but for everyone involved.----Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction03:11 – From Humble Beginnings to Entrepreneurial Success08:05 – Creating an Employee-Centric Business Model12:03 – Revolutionizing Profit Sharing: A Monthly Approach17:34 – Rolling Out Perks That Drive Engagement21:16 – Why Transparency Fuels Buy-In and Productivity25:30 – Lunch with Lucy: Building Relationships with Employees34:59 – Lessons Learned from Selling the Company39:38 – What Being a Game Changer Means to Sherry Stewart Deutschman----Links & Resources:Jehovah’s WitnessesVolkswagen RabbitMercury LynxNuts! by Kevin FreibergScripps HealthCrossfitNetSuiteLunch with Lucy by Sherry Stewart DeutschmannGallup Employee Engagement StudyBrainTrustEntrepreneurs Organization (EO)----Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify. Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel.----Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.----If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like:
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Jan 9, 2025 • 20min
327. AMMA — The Secret to Growth: Trust, Talent, and Turning Reputation Into an Advantage
What are the secrets to turning your law firm into a client magnet and industry leader?In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill dives into transformational strategies for growing your law firm. Discover how setting clear goals and consistently following through can help you build a brand that earns trust and keeps clients coming back.Here’s what you’ll take away:
How maintaining consistency can significantly enhance your success, whether in personal health routines or business management
Why a strong brand is built on reliability and a unique value proposition, creating lasting trust and recognition in the legal industry
Strategies for effectively showcasing your firm’s successes and community involvement to amplify your reputation and attract new clients
The key to limitless opportunities lies in leveraging your reputation. A solid reputation alone isn’t enough — it’s how you amplify and strategically promote it that sets industry leaders apart. Transforming your firm’s credibility into a magnet for high-value cases is the defining trait of game changers in the legal profession.----Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction03:11 – Staying Accountable to Your Goals in the New Year05:45 – Building a Brand That Clients Can Trust09:16 – Leveraging a Strong Reputation for Faster Growth13:23 – Hiring the Right People: Revealing True Character in Interviews17:51 – Handling Stress and Situational Challenges in Hiring19:02 – The “Hell Yes or Hell No” Hiring Philosophy20:10 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways----Links & Resources:REM sleepThe Game Changing Attorney by Michael MogillChatGPT----Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify. Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel.----Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.----If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like:
Episode 280 — Rory Vaden — Reputation Precedes Revenue: Mastering the Art of Personal Branding
Episode 218 — Dr. Katy Milkman — How to Change: The Science of Getting From Where You Are to Where You Want to Be | Crisp
Episode 196 — AMMA — The 9 Sources of Entrepreneurial Advantage | Crisp

Jan 7, 2025 • 45min
326. Matteo Franceschetti — Revolutionizing Rest: The Future of Sleep Technology [Encore Edition]
How can upgrading your sleep with smart technology unlock next-level productivity and success?In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Matteo Franceschetti, the innovative mind behind Eight Sleep. Learn how Matteo transitioned from a corporate law career to pioneering a sleep revolution that integrates smart technology and biometrics.Here’s what you’ll learn:
Why embracing technology in your day-to-day can radically improve efficiency and elevate your quality of life
How a commitment to high performance and operational precision can set you apart in a crowded market
The impact of fostering meaningful partnerships and collaborations to expand your reach and create strategic opportunities
Explore the challenges and breakthroughs of creating a revolutionary product from the ground up, and learn how fostering a results-driven culture can catapult your firm’s success. This episode is your guide to using innovation to enhance health, boost efficiency, and dominate in an increasingly competitive world.----Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction03:11 – The Origins of Eight Sleep: From Lawyer to Sleep Innovator06:00 – Revolutionizing Sleep Through Technology08:55 – The Science Behind Sleep Performance and Thermoregulation14:09 – Debunking Sleep Myths: Do We Really Need 8 Hours?18:24 – Long-Term Consequences of Poor Sleep22:22 – Overcoming Challenges in Building Eight Sleep32:14 – Decision-Making Frameworks for Success43:19 – What It Means to Be a Game Changer----Links & Resources:Eight SleepLeBron JamesMat FraserSlackWhatsAppNo Rules Rules by Reed Hastings and Erin MeyerSteve JobsFormula 1 (F1)Lewis HamiltonGeorge RussellRed BullNFL----Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify. Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel.----Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.----If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like:
Episode 319 — Hal Elrod — Unlocking Success Through Daily Habits
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Jan 2, 2025 • 17min
325. AMMA — Pressure, Priorities, and Progress: Mastering the Price of Success
Are you caught in a cycle of sacrifices? Discover how immediate action can break barriers to progress. Learn to master delegation to mitigate burnout while balancing personal and professional growth. Gain insights into maintaining clarity and vision to seize opportunities without distraction. Explore strategies for wealth building by concentrating on a primary venture instead of spreading yourself too thin. This guide offers essential tools to achieve focus and elevate your success in a competitive landscape.

Dec 19, 2024 • 30min
324. AMMA — Prove Them Wrong: Using Criticism to Win Big
Is the end of the year a time to hit cruise control — or your greatest opportunity for growth and preparation?In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill dives into how leaders can turn the holiday season into a competitive edge. While others are slowing down, this is your chance to build momentum and set the stage for a record-breaking year ahead.Don’t miss out on these year-end insights:
How proactive year-end planning is a powerful tool that will help you launch into the new year
How to use criticism to fuel your ambition and transform skepticism into a driving force for success
How reflecting on past successes and surrounding yourself with accomplished individuals can help you overcome self-doubt and turn uncertainty into confidence
Learn how to transform external criticism into a relentless source of internal motivation, empowering you to not only face but conquer your challenges with renewed vigor. This episode provides insights into the art of using self-reflection to overcome self-doubt and turn it into a wellspring of confidence and resilience.Redefine success by turning year-end obstacles into opportunities — because the finish line is just the springboard to your next big victory.----Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction03:11 – Turning Doubt into Motivation: Leveraging Dark Energy05:43 – Preparing for the New Year: Hitting the Ground Running08:33 – Responding to Skeptics and Naysayers: Success as Revenge15:03 – Battling Self-Doubt: Building Confidence Through Action18:29 – Measuring Progress: Focusing on the Gain, Not the Gap20:47 – Handling Success: Why Quiet Winning is the Ultimate Move27:39 – The Power of Restraint: Success Speaks for Itself29:18 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways----Links & ResourcesDan SullivanThe Gap and the Gain by Dan SullivanWarren BuffettTom BradyNick SabanRobert Greene----Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify. Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel.----Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.----If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like:
Episode 306 — AMMA — From Ramen to Rolex: Celebrating Milestones Wisely
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Dec 17, 2024 • 47min
323. James Lawrence — The Power of One More: A Journey of Grit and Determination [Encore Edition]
What does it mean to break through perceived limits and transform adversity into a source of inspiration for others? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with James Lawrence, the legendary Iron Cowboy, renowned for his mind-boggling feats of endurance. James opens up about how he turned personal and professional challenges into a driving force for extraordinary achievement. Here’s what’s in store:
The power of reframing adversity into a story of hope, transforming challenges into opportunities for growth
Why building mental toughness through embracing discomfort can drive both personal and professional success
The importance of aligning your team with your core values to ensure unified efforts and resilience through challenges
James doesn’t just talk about overcoming setbacks; he’s lived it. And his journey is a powerful reminder that the strength you build from adversity isn’t just for you — it can inspire your team, your clients, and the community around you.Resilience and a commitment to action aren’t optional — they’re what separate ordinary outcomes from extraordinary achievements.----Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction: Mental Toughness and Eliminating Excuses03:03 – Overcoming Adversity: Losing Everything and Starting Over06:56 – The Road to 50 Ironmans: Small Wins and Pushing Limits10:38 – Mental and Physical Preparation: Building Resilience13:52 – Staying Present: How to Manage Pain and Fatigue18:02 – Defining Your Ethos: Accountability and Decision-Making23:11 – Handling Criticism: Persevering Through Doubt and Haters28:56 – The Aftermath of Achievement: Managing Recovery and Letdown35:39 – Why Adversity Matters: Preparing for Life’s Challenges----Links & ResourcesIRONMANIron CowboyDavid GogginsOperation Underground RailroadMark Manson----Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify. Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel.----Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.----If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like:
Episode 168 — Ryan Holiday — The Obstacle is the Way | Crisp
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Episode 288 — AMMA — The Art of Being Decisive

Dec 12, 2024 • 27min
322. AMMA — Health, Hustle, and High Performance: Michael Mogill’s Fitness Journey
How can prioritizing your health become the cornerstone of not only your personal well-being but also the success of your business?In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill explores the harmonious balance between personal health and business leadership. Here’s what you’ll take away:
The importance of reflecting on past experiences to learn and grow, equipping you with resilience to navigate an unpredictable future.
How prioritizing health can enhance your decision-making and energy levels, ultimately contributing to the sustainable growth of your law firm.
Strategies for setting and achieving health goals through routine, discipline, and accountability — principles that are equally effective in business operations.
Prioritizing your health doesn’t mean you have to hit pause on business growth — it’s about leveraging small, consistent actions to create massive, compounding results. Whether you’re leading your team, managing your firm, or scaling to the next level, it’s crucial to integrate wellness into your lifestyle so that your energy and focus are at their peak. Health isn’t a distraction; it’s an asset that amplifies your ability to lead and innovate.----Show Notes: 00:00 - The Power of Public Commitment06:00 - Why Health Should Be Your First Priority: The Business Case10:26 - Building Sustainable Habits: The Three Pillars of Health15:52 - The Wake-Up Call: When Success Costs Your Health18:11 - Breaking Through Analysis Paralysis20:39 - The Power of Public Accountability24:53 - Committing to Change: From Intention to Action----Links & ResourcesMediterranean DietMarcus PhillyMyFitnessPalWhoopEight SleepInside TrackerLabCorpDEXA Scan----Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify. Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel.----Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.----If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like:
Episode 283 — Marcus Filly — Fitness Secrets for Professional Success
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Dec 10, 2024 • 43min
321. Kyle Bachus — Harnessing Technology for Legal Success [Encore Edition]
Ever wonder what it takes to turn a modest two-person law practice into a formidable force in the legal industry?In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill is joined by Kyle Bachus, co-founder and managing partner of Bachus & Schanker, a rapidly expanding personal injury firm in Denver. Together, they unpack the entrepreneurial journey of building a thriving legal brand.Here’s what you’ll take away:
Strategies to foster a mindset that enables your firm to stand out, even when the future feels uncertain
The crucial role of strategic risk-taking in achieving breakthroughs that transform your practice
How innovative marketing and a relentless dedication to technology are pivotal in crafting a client-centered approach that keeps your firm competitive
Leading a law firm’s growth isn't just about keeping pace; it's about setting the pace. Learn how to embrace change, strengthen partnerships, and commit to relentless improvement to drive extraordinary results.----Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction03:15 – Building a Legacy: The Importance of Doing What’s Right06:42 – Finding Purpose Through Advocacy10:24 – Lessons Learned from High-Profile Cases14:17 – The Role of Resilience in Personal and Professional Growth18:45 – Navigating Challenges as a Leader22:13 – Empowering Teams for Long-Term Success26:32 – Balancing Professional Ambition with Personal Values32:10 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways----Links & ResourcesUniversity of FloridaUHaulAlbertson’sTargetTV GuideYellow PagesPPC advertisingJohn MorganSears & Roebuck----Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify. Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel.----Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.----If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like:
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Dec 5, 2024 • 44min
320. John Morgan — Dream Big, Act Bold: Turning Visions into Reality
In this Special Edition Episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, recorded LIVE at the 2024 Game Changers Summit, the stage is set for one of the legal industry’s most iconic figures: John Morgan, Founder of Morgan & Morgan, the world’s largest and most successful personal injury law firm.Renowned for his best-selling books, You Can’t Teach Hungry and You Can’t Teach Vision, John Morgan takes center stage to unveil the strategies, philosophies, and leadership principles that have defined his unparalleled career. In this exclusive LIVE session, he offers actionable insights designed to empower law firm owners to scale their firms, embrace innovation, and lead with purpose.You'll learn:
Why sustainable success requires a long-term mindset and how avoiding shortcuts ensures your firm’s longevity.
How shifting your perspective from comparison to self-improvement boosts productivity, joy, and clarity in your vision.
The critical role that turning ideas into action and executing on bold strategies have on transforming your law firm into a powerhouse.
Prepare for an unforgettable exploration of perseverance, vision, and leadership that will leave you inspired to redefine what's possible in your practice. This isn’t just a podcast episode — it’s your front-row seat to the Game Changers Summit, where bold ideas become breakthroughs.Welcome to the journey.----Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction02:16 – The Origin of Visionary Law Practices05:42 – Patience and Perseverance in Growth09:27 – Lessons from the Tortoise and the Hare14:10 – The Power of Comparative Perspective17:09 – Dreaming vs. Doing: Execution Matters20:47 – Courage and Overcoming Fear27:02 – The Importance of Visionary Thinking33:14 – Answering the Bell: Resilience in Business----Links & ResourcesMike PapantonioUniversity of FloridaPractice Made PerfectMass Torts Made PerfectNick SabanNever Eat Alone by Keith FerrazziBeatlesVince LombardiWalt Disney WorldMickeyWalt DisneyTeslaMuhammad AliJoe FrazierAngelo DundeeBundini BrownEddie FutchVince McMahonMother TeresaGrant Hill----Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify. Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel.----Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.----If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like
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