
The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill
How can you become a game changer?Michael Mogill, Founder and CEO of Crisp, has used his mastery of marketing for lawyers to grow his company to an 8-figure powerhouse. In just a few years, Crisp has helped thousands of attorneys adapt to the new legal landscape, differentiate themselves from the competition, and earn millions in new revenue.In every episode, you’ll hear from law firm entrepreneurs and market leaders — people who flourish in the face of adversity, challenge the status quo, and define what it means to be a game changer.We investigate success stories and business growth and scalability strategies that can help you attract your ideal clients. Plus, discover hidden insights and actionable advice on how company culture and employee engagement, marketing and advertising, and management and hiring fit into the big picture.What do all our guests have in common? These successful attorneys and business owners prove that the key to innovation is a game-changing mindset. If you want to run your law firm like an entrepreneur, achieve a greater ROI, and build a world-class organization that stands the test of time, then you’re in good company.Subscribe to the Game Changing Attorney Podcast and get ready to take your business to the next level.For more information, visit https://www.crisp.co/podcast/
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Feb 28, 2023 • 24min
147. AMMA — Hoodies, LinkedIn Influencers, and "Nontraditional" Retirement
Michael Mogill, Founder & CEO of Crisp, is back and better than ever with another installment of “Ask Michael Mogill Anything” for this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast.Our first edition of AMMA was so popular that we decided to do it again — and we think you’re going to be surprised at what Michael has to say. Tune in to hear his thoughts on:
How to run your business like a true leader
How retirement has evolved over the years
Why actions speak louder than words
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Crisp
Google
SalesForce
Amazon
LinkedIn
Mark Lanier

Feb 21, 2023 • 40min
146. Rex Elliott — Committed to Impact: Transforming Adversities into Opportunities
When you come across a lawyer who’s determined to represent the underdog no matter what, that’s when you know you’ve got someone special.Rex Elliott is that lawyer. His entire goal in life is to help those who weren’t given the same opportunities as those more fortunate. He vows to try cases that others are too intimidated by, and that’s what has made him so successful.On this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Rex and Michael sit down to discuss:
How to leverage the media in high-profile cases
Why the most valuable lessons come from our losses, not our wins
How lawyers have the power to change the world.
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Episode Shownotes
Denison University
Syracuse University
Sullivan & Cromwell
National Football League
Willie Gladdens
Donovan Lewis
Ben Crump
Stone Foltz
Collin Wiant
Bowling Green University
Entrepreneurs’ Organization

Feb 14, 2023 • 57min
145. Cliff Bleszinski — Control Freak: Relentless Obsession in Video Games and Success
There are times when we all feel the need to break free from the pressure of reality — but it’s crucial for ambitious leaders to channel that experience into one of transformation and success, not simply escapism.Cliff Bleszinski, renowned video game designer and author, has felt this way for most of his life. He’s dedicated his life to building new worlds, creating moving stories, and introducing meaningful characters for people to immerse themselves in.On this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Cliff and Michael sit down to discuss:
How to combat complacency when redefining what’s possible
The risks and rewards of relentless obsession
Cliff’s journey in creating transformational video games
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Space Invaders
Epic Games
Gears of War
Fortnite
Boss Key Productions
Microsoft Word
Simon & Schuster
Legend of Zelda
Atari
Mario
Sonic the Hedgehog
Call of Duty
Twitch
Rocky Balboa
Apollo Creed
Nintendo Switch
TikTok
Super Bowl
NCAA
Xbox 360
YouTube
The Rockefellers
Facebook
Virtual Reality
Peloton

Feb 7, 2023 • 54min
144. Ben Glass — Live Life Big: Growth Strategies to Unlock Entrepreneurial Freedom
Being a lawyer is arguably one of the most taxing professions out there — but does it have to be that way? With roughly half of all practicing lawyers experiencing symptoms of depression and high-risk drinking, it’s a wonder it’s not a failing industry.This is something that Ben Glass of BenGlassLaw and Great Legal Marketing hopes to change.In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Ben and Michael sit down to discuss:
The keys to happiness for attorneys
The power of thinking big
Why commitment is one of the most powerful habits
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BenGlassLaw
Crisp
The Game Changing Attorney by Michael Mogill
TikTok

Jan 31, 2023 • 26min
143. AMMA — Teslas, Distractions, and Rebuilding from Zero
The mind of a visionary is something so unique and elusive that it feels as if you’ll never truly know what they’re thinking — but all of that is about to change.You asked. We listened.In this special first-ever “Ask Michael Mogill Anything” episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, you’ll get the opportunity to hear what makes Crisp Founder & CEO Michael Mogill tick. Listen as he answers some of your burning questions, such as:
How to pick the perfect marketing strategy for your law firm
What to do if you had to start all over again
The reasoning behind Crisp’s famous (and some would say, ridiculous) Tesla giveaways
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Episode Show Notes
Crisp
Game Changers Summit
Tesla
Kyle Bachus
Erika Riggs

Jan 24, 2023 • 33min
142. Scott Monge — Differentiate to Dominate: Emphasizing the Client Experience
Standing out in a highly saturated legal market is no easy feat. With 1.3 million attorneys in America, the task of getting noticed (and more importantly, being successful) can feel daunting at times…But not for iconic law firm owners like Scott Monge of Monge & Associates.In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Scott and Michael sit down to discuss:
The importance of differentiating and thinking outside the box
Why the evolution of your brand is vital to its success
How to approach every experience as a learning opportunity

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Jan 17, 2023 • 1h 1min
141. David Goggins — Learn How to Master Your Mind, Become Disciplined & Stay Grounded
In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with David Goggins to discuss his new book “Never Finished,” how he became so mentally tough, and what keeps him going after success.David Goggins is a retired United States Navy SEAL and former United States Air Force Tactical Air Control Party member who is renowned for his athletic achievements and his charitable work. He is the author of the best-selling books "Can't Hurt Me: Master Your Mind and Defy the Odds" and "Never Finished: Find Your Purpose, Reclaim Your Time, and Go the Distance." Goggins is known for his endurance athletic events, including ultramarathons, triathlons, and 24-hour endurance events, as well as his military training and service. He is also known for his philanthropic efforts, including raising money for charities through his endurance events.Timestamped Key Moments: 02:12 | David Goggins Explains Why He’s so Authentic04:13 | Why David Goggins Wrote “Never Finished”06:50 | David Goggins on How to Start Believing in Yourself10:17 | David Goggins Explains How Accountability Changed His Life12:04 | David Goggins Opens Up About Who Influenced His Work Ethic13:29 | How David Goggins Created His Alter Ego20:54 | How David Goggins Overcomes His Suffering27:13 | “Taking Souls” Explained By David Goggins30:18 | How David Goggins Handles Haters & Negativity 35:25 | David Goggins Explains Why He Keeps Going After “Can’t Hurt Me” Success39:14 | David Goggins Explains How to Build a Solid Circle42:20 | David Goggins Defines Success and Failure45:00 | The Only Way David Goggins Will EVER Consider Quitting Anything46:40 | The Regrets That David Goggins Carries 48:38 | David Goggins Opens Up About Why He Pushes Himself So Hard51:27 | How David Goggins Keeps Himself Grounded & Motivated

Jan 10, 2023 • 39min
140. Chris Ronzio — Organize Chaos: Building and Leveraging a Business Playbook
Without basic standard operating procedures, your law firm will not be able to run smoothly, effectively, or efficiently.That’s where Chris Ronzio comes in.A behind-the-scenes master of delegating, standardizing, scaling, and impacting thriving companies everywhere, Ronzio is the mastermind behind Trainual, the all-in-one program that helps with team member onboarding, training, process docs, SOPs and more.On this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Chris gives us an inside look at Trainual, plus:
How leaders can equip their team members to grow
Why efficiency is everything when it comes to success
The ins and outs of documenting your business processes
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Trainual
Google Docs
Apple
Quickbooks
HubSpot

Dec 20, 2022 • 2h 32min
139: Season 3 Finale: Best of 2022
Folks, we’ve made it to the final episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast Season 3 — and we’re going out with a bang. Get ready to relive some of your favorite moments from this past season with conversations from true game changers across the legal industry and beyond, such as:
Liz Wiseman, Management Researcher and New York Times Best-Selling Author
Andre Norman, Founder of the Academy of Hope
Randi McGinn, Renowned Trial Lawyer
Kevin O’Leary, Entrepreneur and Investor on Shark Tank
Jesse Cole, Owner of the Savannah Bananas baseball team
Robert Simon, Co-Founder of Justice HQ and Simon Law Group
Robert Greene, Best-Selling Author
Ben Crump, Founder and Owner of Ben Crump Law
Alex Repas, Chief Operating Officer at Crisp
John Morgan, Owner and Founder of Morgan & Morgan
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Multipliers: How the Best Leaders Make Everyone Smarter by Liz Wiseman
The Wiseman Group
The Savannah Bananas
P.T. Barnum
Walt Disney
Find Your Yellow Tux: How to Be Successful by Standing Out by Jesse Cole
Fans First: Change the Game, Break the Rules & Create an Unforgettable Experience by Jesse Cole
McGinn, Montoya, Love, & Curry
Shark Tank
The Laws of Human Nature by Robert Greene
Justice HQ
Simon Law Group
Civil: Ben Crump (Netflix documentary)
Ben Crump Law
You Can’t Teach Hungry: Creating the Multimillion Dollar Firm by John Morgan
Crisp

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Dec 13, 2022 • 46min
138. Anthony Johnson — Industry Disruption is the Key to Survival
The future is unknown in many ways — but that doesn’t mean we can’t start preparing for tomorrow, today. The legal industry is changing, and the sooner you accept that, the more likely are your chances of survival.Anthony Johnson is one of the pioneers of the industry who focuses his practice on reading data and applying it to tomorrow. On this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, check out his thoughts on:
The realities of alternative business structures
How technology impacts the legal industry
Why it’s important to attract outside capital for your law firm
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Rule 5.4
Arizona Rule 5.4 reform
Game Changers Summit
Apple
Steve Jobs
John Morgan
Silicon Valley
Wall Street
Stellium
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