
The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill
How can you become a game changer?Michael Mogill, Founder and CEO of Crisp, has used his mastery of marketing for lawyers to grow his company to an 8-figure powerhouse. In just a few years, Crisp has helped thousands of attorneys adapt to the new legal landscape, differentiate themselves from the competition, and earn millions in new revenue.In every episode, you’ll hear from law firm entrepreneurs and market leaders — people who flourish in the face of adversity, challenge the status quo, and define what it means to be a game changer.We investigate success stories and business growth and scalability strategies that can help you attract your ideal clients. Plus, discover hidden insights and actionable advice on how company culture and employee engagement, marketing and advertising, and management and hiring fit into the big picture.What do all our guests have in common? These successful attorneys and business owners prove that the key to innovation is a game-changing mindset. If you want to run your law firm like an entrepreneur, achieve a greater ROI, and build a world-class organization that stands the test of time, then you’re in good company.Subscribe to the Game Changing Attorney Podcast and get ready to take your business to the next level.For more information, visit https://www.crisp.co/podcast/
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Apr 24, 2025 • 25min
357. The Strategy That Skyrocketed Her Law Firm's Growth with Sofia K. Miguel
In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill interviews Sofia K. Miguel, the 2024 ELITE Firm of the Year winner. Sofia shares her journey from the Army Reserve to leading a successful personal injury firm, offering practical insights into the challenges and successes of running a law practice.You will learn:
How to embrace marketing to enhance visibility and success in a competitive landscape
How personal growth builds resilience, vital for leading a successful firm
And how a high-performing team and top-tier client experience differentiate your firm
Ready to transform your firm's future with proven growth and leadership strategies? Tune in to hear Sofia's impactful journey and discover how you can apply these lessons to your own practice.----Show Notes:00:00 – Introduction: From Army Reserve to Elite Firm of the Year03:24 – Why Sofia Chose Law: Autonomy, Self-Reliance, and Fulfillment09:19 – Building the Firm From Scratch: Early Challenges and Vision14:10 – Standing Out in a Competitive Market as a Woman-Owned Firm18:47 – From Solo to Team: The Shift to Scaling and Hiring Attorneys24:36 – Establishing Culture: High Standards and Collaborative Growth32:55 – Making Unpopular Decisions for Long-Term Success39:40 – Personal Growth, Professional Evolution, and Resilience48:18 – What Being a Game Changer Means to Sofia Miguel----Links & Resources:Sofia K. MiguelKolbe Index----Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel.----Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.----If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like:
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Apr 22, 2025 • 59min
356. Warning: These Industry Titans’ Insights Might Change How You Run Your Firm
Welcome to a special edition of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, celebrating five years of game changing conversations, industry-shaping insights, and bold leadership in the legal world. To mark this milestone, we’re kicking off a retrospective series that dives into the minds of the most forward-thinking, trailblazing leaders we've featured over the years.In this episode, we’re taking a look back to highlight the strategies and decisions that helped our top guests carve their own paths to success. There’s no single way to build a thriving law firm — but the stories you’ll hear are proof that with the right mindset, consistent execution, and belief in your vision, success is within reach.You’ll hear from:
Eric Chaffin: Co-founder of Chaffin Luhana, a nationally recognized law firm. Known for his work as a federal prosecutor and his dedication to using his experiences to motivate and help others through his legal practice.
Rex Elliott: A prominent attorney at Cooper Elliott, a firm known for representing the underdog and making significant impacts in trial law. His journey is fueled by connecting his past experiences to achieve success and aid others.
Randi McGinn: An accomplished trial lawyer, recognized for her approach to "transformative law," where the focus is on making impactful changes beyond just monetary settlements in cases.
Laura Wasser: A top divorce attorney in the country, known for her discretion and ability to handle high-profile celebrity divorce cases with a focus on realistic expectations and professionalism.
Ben Crump: A nationally renowned civil rights attorney, often involved in high-profile cases that address systemic injustices, inspired by Thurgood Marshall and motivated by advocating for equal opportunities and justice.
Whether you're an attorney seasoned in the courtroom or a burgeoning leader in the industry, you'll find valuable perspectives and actionable insights to fuel your own success story. Join us as we uncover the diverse strategies and mindsets that propel legal visionaries to redefine what it means to lead, inspire, and succeed.----Show Notes:00:00 – Introduction: 5 Years of Legal Game Changers02:05 – Eric Chaffin: Overcoming Trauma and Building a Mission-Driven Firm10:44 – Doing Good by Doing Right: Building Chaffin Luhana on Values15:45 – Rex Elliott: From Construction Sites to Courtrooms21:42 – Fighting for Underdogs and Finding Purpose in Trial Work27:58 – Randi McGinn: Pioneering Transformative Law with Every Case35:36 – Laura Wasser: Navigating High-Profile Divorce with Discretion and Integrity43:59 – Balancing Emotional Support and Legal Strategy in Celebrity Cases50:27 – Ben Crump: Finding Hope and Justice Through Legacy and Law----Links & Resources:Randi McGinnRex ElliottEric ChaffinBen CrumpLaura Wasser----Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel.----Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.----If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like:
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Apr 17, 2025 • 46min
355. How Two Lawyers Took on Legal Giants and Won with Spetsas Buist
What if launching your law firm amidst competition isn't about having it all figured out, but about taking the plunge with unwavering determination and adaptability?In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, host Michael Mogill sits down with Charles Buist and Nicholas Spetsas, the formidable duo behind a rapidly growing law firm in Orlando. Join us as we delve into their inspiring journey from shared dreams in a cramped one-bedroom apartment to the strategic decisions that helped them navigate the challenges of launching a firm from scratch.Here’s what you’ll learn:
How taking strategic risks early in your career can pave the way for future success
The critical role of a client-centric approach in differentiating a law firm, ensuring lasting relationships and trust by prioritizing client needs and maintaining excellent service
The impact of leveraging advanced technology and personalized leadership strategies, like AI, Kolbe, and PRINT assessments, to foster team growth and enhance operational efficiency in a thriving law firm
Tune in as they unpack their evolution from law school allies to entrepreneurial partners, revealing the bold bets, unrelenting commitment, and client-first mindset that drove their explosive growth from day one. With an emphasis on emotional connection, tech-forward operations, and agile leadership, Charles and Nick’s story is packed with battle-tested strategies and hard-earned insights for any law firm looking to stand out — and win — in today’s hyper-competitive market.----Show Notes:00:00 – Introduction03:11 – From Law School Roommates to Law Firm Founders06:19 – Building the Firm During Uncertainty and Sleepless Nights11:45 – The Turning Point: A Case That Changed Everything14:31 – Competing in One of the Nation’s Toughest Legal Markets18:34 – Team Composition, Growth Strategy, and Embracing AI23:37 – Leadership Lessons: Individual Focus and Effective Communication27:55 – Defining Firm Culture: Excellence, Empathy & Evolution42:08 – Personal Growth, Client Experience & What’s Next----Links & Resources:Charles BuistNicholas SpetsasMark CubanLior WeinsteinChris VossThe Bachelorette----Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel.----Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.----If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like:
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Apr 15, 2025 • 52min
354. Why Most Lawyers Are Miserable — And How to Break Free with Ben Glass [Encore Edition]
Are you questioning the traditional trajectory of the legal profession and craving a game plan to grow your firm and live a more fulfilling life?In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with powerhouse plaintiffs attorney Ben Glass — founder of Ben Glass Law, best-selling author, and the visionary behind Great Legal Marketing. You’ll hear how Ben redefined success on his own terms — from growing up as the oldest of seven to launching a movement that’s transforming how attorneys lead their firms and their lives.Here’s what you’ll learn:
Discover how to align your law firm with your personal values to drive greater fulfillment, enhance team cohesion, and deliver a client experience that creates lasting loyalty
Understand the critical mindset shifts that empower firm owners to break free from guilt, expand their capacity for growth, and actively seek ways to continue to learn
Implement bold, practical marketing strategies that cut through the noise while simultaneously cultivating a high-performing culture where your team is inspired, aligned, and driven to win
Tune in as Ben shares the mindset shifts that shaped his path, the impact of athletics on building resilience, and why he's on a mission to help lawyers stop settling and start living. If you're ready to challenge the status quo and build a firm that reflects your purpose and potential, this episode delivers the clarity and strategy you’ve been looking for.----Show Notes:00:00 – Introduction03:15 – From Soccer Fields to Courtrooms: Ben’s Journey into Law08:42 – What Playing Left Fullback Taught Ben About Business11:52 – Living Life Big: Designing a Practice Around What Matters16:48 – Why Lawyer Wellness Starts with Choosing a Better Default20:16 – The Mindset Shifts That Unlock Entrepreneurial Freedom26:38 – Standing Out with Grassroots Marketing (and Answering the Phone)29:43 – Building a Team That Stays, Grows, and Recruits for You39:13 – The Secret Power of Podcasting and Repurposing Content----Links & Resources:BenGlassLawCrispThe Game Changing Attorney by Michael MogillTikTok----Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel.----Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.----If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like:
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Apr 10, 2025 • 1h 1min
353. How He Trained His Mind to Never Quit — Using Something You’d Never Guess with James Lawrence
What does it really take to shatter the boundaries of human endurance?In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down once again with James Lawrence — the unstoppable force better known as the Iron Cowboy. Renowned for doing what most would call impossible, James made headlines by completing 50 Ironmans in 50 days across all 50 states and then pushed the bar even higher with his legendary Conquer 100 challenge.Here’s what you’ll learn:
How to build unshakable systems that eliminate decision fatigue — so discipline becomes automatic and success becomes your default
Why doing the hard, uncomfortable things you’d rather avoid is the fastest way to build mental toughness and bulletproof yourself against adversity
How to turn personal wins into powerful mentorship — transforming your achievements into growth engines for your team and fulfillment for you
James is more than an elite endurance athlete — he’s a master of mental grit and discipline. As the Iron Cowboy, he’s not just defying limits; he’s redefining what’s possible through sheer resilience and an unbreakable mindset. Be sure to check out James Lawrence’s powerful new book, Iron Hope — a raw, inspiring look into the mindset, struggles, and triumphs behind his most audacious challenges and a blueprint for pushing past your own perceived limits.----00:00 – Introduction02:29 – You Don’t Need to Be Special — Just Relentless08:41 – Iron Hope: How to Reignite Purpose Through Action10:39 – Defining Mental Toughness & Building It Through Discomfort15:13 – Winning the Internal Conversation: Systems Over Feelings21:18 – Cold Plunges, Confidence, and Stacking Daily Wins26:34 – Discipline Is a System, Not a Personality Trait29:33 – Why Mastering the Mundane Creates Champions44:10 – Post-Victory Void: What Happens After the Goal Is Reached----Links & Resources:James LawrenceIron Cowboy by James LawrenceIron Hope by James LawrenceAtomic Habits by James ClearBuy Back Your Time by Dan Martell----Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify. Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel.----Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.----If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like:
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Apr 8, 2025 • 53min
352. Why Everything You Know About Motivating Your Team Might Be Completely Wrong with Susan Fowler [Encore Edition]
Could your firm be missing out on its true potential by relying on traditional motivation techniques?In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with renowned motivation expert Susan Fowler to challenge the outdated paradigms of incentivization in the workplace. With insights drawn from her extensive research and real-world applications, Susan offers a fresh perspective on how law firm leaders can cultivate a genuinely motivating environment.Here’s what you’ll learn:
The distinction between suboptimal and optimal motivation and how quality-focused motivation leads to more sustainable and fulfilling outcomes
The importance of supporting employees’ psychological needs: choice, connection, and competence — and how these enhance employee engagement and reduce turnover in law firms
The significance of aligning personal and organizational values to create a thriving work environment, enabling conscious growth and long-term success for both individuals and firms
By unlocking the secrets behind psychological energy, Susan reveals how understanding the deeper layers of human motivation can lead to unprecedented growth, not just financially but also in terms of employee satisfaction and performance. Listen in to discover how you can transform your firm’s culture and drive meaningful change.----00:00 – Introduction03:22 – Why Motivating People Doesn’t Work (and What Does)07:15 – Suboptimal vs. Optimal Motivation: The Six Types12:40 – The Three Psychological Needs: Autonomy, Connection, and Competence22:08 – Creating Autonomy Within Structure26:47 – Building Genuine Connection at Work34:02 – Encouraging Growth: Competence and Learning Cultures43:30 – Why “What Motivates You?” Is the Wrong Question58:16 – Final Thoughts and What Being a Game Changer Means----Links & Resources:Why Motivating People Doesn’t Work… and What Does by Susan FowlerYouTubeB.F. SkinnerOperant ConditioningMaster Your Motivation: Three Scientific Truths for Achieving Your Goals by Susan FowlerSelf-determination theoryDr. Edward DeciDr. Richard RyanIBMGarry RidgeDr. Jacques ForestDrea ZigarmiMark CubanAnne BraffordThe Prevalence of Substance Use and Other Mental Health Concerns Among American AttorneysBinge Drinking by Occupation Groups among Currently Employed U.S. Adults2022 Report on the State of the Legal Market: Despite a strong year, numerous & growing challenges confront law firmsInstitute For Well-Being In LawMcKinsey & Company: Winning back your workers----Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel.----Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.----If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like:
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Apr 3, 2025 • 34min
351. AMMA. THIS Is Why the Best People Want Nothing to Do With Your Law Firm
What if your firm's greatest asset is slipping through your fingers, unnoticed?In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill dives deep into the pressing issues law firm owners face as leaders and attorneys. From understanding the critical dynamics of attorney retention to bridging the ever-present generational gaps within the workplace, this episode offers actionable insights to help grow your firm effectively.Here’s what you’ll learn:
How to identify the true reasons behind attorney departures and enhance their experience with effective feedback systems
Strategies to unify your firm's culture across different generations, fostering continuous learning and effective mentorship
How to manage feedback without hindering productivity, focusing on actionable insights that drive business growth
As you navigate the challenges of attorney retention and workplace culture, these insights could be the key to unlocking your firm's potential. Don't let minor issues stand in the way of major progress — tune in and discover how to foster growth, unity, and a shared vision within your team.----00:00 – Introduction03:14 – Why Top Talent Really Leaves Your Firm10:33 – Creating a Future Your Team Wants to Be Part Of15:22 – Stay Interviews vs. Exit Interviews: Getting Real Feedback19:18 – Bridging the Generational Gap in Firm Culture26:30 – Avoiding Open Door Overload: When Feedback Goes Too Far34:05 – Separating Signal from Noise: Feedback That Actually Matters39:58 – A Culture of Ownership: Encouraging Problem Solvers43:01 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways----Links & Resources:Game Changers Summit----Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify. Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel.----Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.----If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like:
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Apr 1, 2025 • 51min
350. 5 Years of Game Changers: You Won’t Believe What They Did to Win
Welcome to a landmark episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast!Today marks five years. Five years of conversations that have challenged convention, inspired action, and elevated what’s possible in the legal industry.Over this journey, we’ve sat down with the boldest thinkers and most innovative leaders — the ones who aren’t just playing the game, but changing it. And to celebrate this milestone, we’re taking you back through some of the most powerful, perspective-shifting moments we’ve shared on this podcast.Here's what we'll rediscover:
Jesse Cole's Revolutionary Approach: His fan-centric strategies with the Savannah Bananas that turned traditional baseball on its head
Chris Voss's Negotiating Skills: The art of strategic control and curiosity in achieving successful outcomes
John Morgan's Career Wisdom: Insights on navigating pivotal crossroads that define professional growth
David Goggins's Relentless Drive: Exemplifying the power of pushing beyond limits and achieving the extraordinary
Jan Dils's Bold Advertising Strategies: Daring tactics that challenged and transformed industry norms
Thank you for being an essential part of this community. Your commitment to growth, innovation, and bold action is what makes this movement possible. Here’s to the next chapter — to raising the bar, breaking through, and unlocking even greater potential. Let’s dive in and revisit the defining moments that made these first five years unforgettable — and set the stage for what’s next.----00:00 – Introduction: 5 Years of Game Changing Conversations02:18 – John Morgan on Knowing Your Worth & Taking the Leap10:42 – Building a Scalable Law Firm with Non-Lawyer Leadership15:49 – Jan Dils and the Power of Bold Advertising24:36 – Overcoming Backlash to Build a Brand30:04 – Jesse Cole on Turning Baseball into Entertainment36:22 – Creating “You Wouldn’t Believe” Fan Experiences45:39 – David Goggins on Mental Toughness and Taking Souls56:44 – Chris Voss: FBI Tactics for Better Negotiation----Links & Resources:Jesse ColeChris VossDavid GogginsJan Dils----Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify. Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel.----Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.----If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like:
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Mar 27, 2025 • 29min
349. AMMA. The Leadership Shift: Building a Firm That Doesn’t Depend on You
Are you struggling to let go of day-to-day tasks, even though you know it could propel your firm to new heights?In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill breaks down the essential moves every attorney must make to go from operator to leader — and why your firm’s growth depends on it. You’ll uncover the exact strategies to get out of the weeds, elevate your brand, and drive insane levels of trust, performance, and profitability.Here’s what you’ll learn:
The importance of identifying and delegating tasks outside your unique skill set to focus on high-impact activities that drive your firm's scalability
How to leverage your personal brand to cultivate a firm-wide standard of excellence, ensuring clients' trust beyond your direct involvement
Strategies for stepping back from individual case management to embrace a leadership role that helps elevate your law firm and build a robust practice
Whether you’re a solo practitioner or running a fast-growing team, this episode delivers real talk and real strategy to help you define success on your terms — and build the law firm of the future.----00:00 – Introduction02:24 – Letting Go: Why Control Limits Growth06:42 – When Is the Right Time to Step Back?13:05 – Transitioning from Personal Brand to Firm Brand18:53 – Building a Reputation Beyond Yourself23:50 – Shifting Responsibilities: Highest & Best Use of Time28:36 – Playing to Your Strengths (and Hiring to Cover the Rest)34:22 – The Value of Operational Leadership: Hiring Your Game Changer40:11 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways----Links & Resources:John MorganUniversity of AlabamaJP Morgan ChaseCharles SchwabDisney World----Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify. Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel.----Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.----If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like:
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Mar 25, 2025 • 58min
348. Ross Pomerantz. Sales, Sarcasm, and Success: Inside the Mind of Corporate Bro [Encore Edition]
Have you considered that embracing authenticity might be the catalyst your law firm needs to accelerate growth and elevate your leadership impact?In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Ross Pomerantz — better known as the mastermind behind “Corporate Bro.” Known for his brutally honest and hilarious take on the sales world, Ross has built a massive following by turning everyday professional absurdities into viral gold.From his early days grinding in tech sales to becoming a content icon, Ross opens up about his relentless pursuit of creativity, the power of humor, and why staying true to yourself is your greatest competitive advantage.Here’s what you’ll learn:
Why bringing humanity into professional environments fosters stronger cultures, deeper connections, and more authentic business practices
Learn how persistence, consistency, and owning your unique voice can create long-term success — no matter the industry
Understand why mastering sales is non-negotiable for growth, and how respecting this function can unlock massive opportunities for your firm
Join Michael and Ross as they unpack how humor, authenticity, and relentless execution can reshape business norms, build unforgettable brands, and challenge outdated definitions of “professionalism.” Whether you're scaling a law firm or building your personal brand, this episode will leave you with the mindset and tools to stand out, lead boldly, and win.----00:00 – Introduction03:45 – From Baseball to Sales: Ross’s Unlikely Journey09:22 – The Birth of Corporate Bro: Humor Meets Hustle14:08 – Sadness as a Sales Philosophy22:50 – Building a Brand Through Authenticity30:17 – The Truth About Algorithms and Going Viral38:55 – Walking the Line: Satire in a Hyper-Offended World46:03 – Burnout, Mental Health, and Creative Longevity52:49 – What Being a Game Changer Means to Ross----Links & Resources:Atlanta BravesOracleCorporate BroDilbert comicsVine8 Mile (film)Total Frat MoveBroBibleBrotopia by Emily ChangLarry EllisonMarc BenioffMadison Square GardenSoftware as a service (SaaS)ChatGPTSweet JamesDuolingoDUDE WipesBarstool SportsLeBron JamesMichael JordanGolden State Warriors----Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify. Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel.----Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.----If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like:
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