Be There in Five

This week, Kate shares her hopes and dreams for the Eras tour before it's spoiled this week, e.g., some thoughts she has on theme/structure/flow, her favorite F bombs she hopes to sing, plays a sampling of her setlist draft, and also shares insights from her snorkel into TS tour footwear over the years. She also makes a detailed plea for a YOYOK/Long Live finale, among other must-hear songs. Then, Kate interviews Sarah from the original TS style blog, Taylor Swift Style, and they discuss Taylor's street and red carpet style, stylists, iconic tour looks, tour predictions, outfit hits and misses, their "big 3" albums, and more. Kate also finds out Sarah went to a secret session and briefly spirals. Overall, a fun convo approaching Eras predictions from a different angle with a fellow superfan! For Kate's full setlist predictions, go to patreon.com/bethereinfive. Find Sarah: @taylorswiftstyled on IG, @tswiftstyle in twitter, and taylorswiftstyle.com. Buy tickets for Be There in Five Years Virtual Live Show (and gender reveal!) on April 2 at 8:05 EST at moment.co/bethereinfive SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Build your spring wardrobe from the ground up. Shop the new spring collection and receive 20% off your purchase with the code BETHEREINFIVE at marcfisherfootwear.com. Helix is offering 20% off all mattress orders AND two free pillows for our listeners! Go to HelixSleep.com/BeThereInFive and use code HELIXPARTNER. This is their best offer yet and it won't last long! With Helix, better sleep starts now. Right now, Hungryroot is offering Be There In Five listeners 30% off your first delivery and free veggies for life. Just go to Hungryroot.com/BETHEREINFIVE, to get 30% off your first delivery and get your free veggies. Find your forever pieces at jennikayne.com. Our listeners get 15% off your first order when you use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. The brand go to for all season staples. Treat yourself because you deserve it.

This week, Kate begins by addressing the Scandoval of it all, doing a 20 min or so snorkel through the current Vanderpump Rules drama between Tom/Tom/Rachel/Raquel/Ariana, trying to contextualize it with past show drama for beginners. Then, she segues back into a favorite topic of the Beths (candle culture) to resurrect an old series called Under the Influencer and interviews Lindsay Silberman, a magazine journalist turned influencer and business owner best known for her insanely popular brand, Hotel Lobby Candle. They talk about her career story that rom-com dreams are made of, working in the Vogue fashion closet, wanderlust luxury travel culture, influencer PR trips, and discuss the start and current status of her candle company (and she also gave us a code)! Enjoy! Get 15% off at Hotel Lobby Candle through 3/13 by going to hotellobbycandle.com/bethereinfive with code BETH15 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Right now, BÉIS is offering our listeners 15% off your first purchase by visiting BEISTRAVEL.com/BETHEREINFIVE Cozy Earth provided an exclusive offer for my listener's today. 35% off site wide when you use the code "BETHEREINFIVE" at cozyearth.com Shop the new spring collection and receive 20% off your purchase with the code BETHEREINFIVE at marcfisherfootwear.com. Get 10% off your first order sitewide with code BETHEREINFIVE at OSEAMalibu.com. You'll get free samples with every order, and free shipping on orders over $60.

This week, Kate breaks her silence on the 1999 "historical" American Girl dolls that dropped this week and talks through their accuracy regarding millennial iconography. She also discusses 90s twin tropes/evil brunette twins, sleepover popcorn politics, and skincare routines of yesteryear like the Clinique 3-step. She then finds archived PDFs of old American Girl books about popularity and crafting, like a whole book dedicated to "Jazz Up Your Jeans," and it jazzes up Kate's day. She then discusses Kelsea Ballerini's new EP (that finally gives doormats the spotlight they deserve), her divorce from Morgan Evans, the brilliance of the lyrics and short film, and Kate expresses her frustration with the timing of her new "relationship" with John B. Kate then finds an AG book about babysitting that single-handedly teaches her how to parent, and lastly she reviews crowd-sourced responses to the question of "what about adulthood would have put younger you in a coma?" Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Visit Carawayhome.com/BETHEREINFIVE to take advantage of this limited-time offer for 10% off your next purchase. Visit Carawayhome.com/BETHEREINFIVE or use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. Sign up today at butcherbox.com/BETHEREINFIVE and use code BETHEREINFIVE to get a 100% grass- fed chuck roast and a whole chicken FREE in your first box plus $20 off. Get 35% off your first order of Sundays. Go to SundaysForDogs.com/BETHEREINFIVE or use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. Instead of striving for perfect health, aim for supporting foundational health. Great news—Ritual is offering my listeners 10% off during your first 3 months. Visit ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE to start Ritual or add Essential for Women 18+ to your subscription today.

TW: pregnancy, miscarriage, fertility talk, mentions of Breaking Dawn Much to her surprise, Kate's now in her Gestation Era. Hear how it all went down and more on this episode that's a personal detour from her usual content (and is technically part 5 of her Childless Millennial series that's been 2+ years in the making). SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Evelyn & Bobbie is giving Be There in Five listeners an exclusive discount code to try Evelyn & Bobbie bras, risk-free, for yourself! Use code BETHEREINFIVE on EvelynBobbie.com for 25% off your first order Go to Hungryroot.com/BETHEREINFIVE, to get 30% off your first delivery and get your free veggies. That's Hungryroot.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Don't forget to use our link, so they know we sent you. Get glasses that stay as fresh as your unique style with Pair. Go to paireyewear.com/bethereinfive for 15% off your first purchase. Ritual is offering my listeners 10% off during your first 3 months. Visit ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE to start Ritual or add Essential for Women 18+ to your subscription today. Go to Zocdoc.com/BETHEREINFIVE and download the Zocdoc app for FREE. Then find and book a top-rated doctor today. Many are available within 24 hours!

This week, Kate talks about the controversial list of 141 rules The Cut/NY Mag came out with that were positioned as a revised etiquette guide for modern society. First, she dives into some of the histories of western etiquette, snorkels Emily Post & the gang, reflects on her time in cotillion, learning to be 'ladylike' in pop culture, and her issues with classism and 'old vs. new money' convos. She then ventures into some of her takes on the list and peppers in listener emails about their responses to the article and shares additional rules they'd implement in their personal etiquette guides. Enjoy! Original article: https://www.thecut.com/article/tipping-rules-etiquette-rules.html SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Right now, BÉIS is offering our listeners 15% off your first purchase by visiting BEISTRAVEL.com/BETHEREINFIVE Cozy Earth provided an exclusive offer for my listener's today. 35% off site wide when you use the code "BETHEREINFIVE" at cozyearth.com Helix is offering 20% off all mattress orders AND two free pillows for our listeners! Go to HelixSleep.com/BeThereInFive and use code HELIXPARTNER. This is their best offer yet and it won't last long! With Helix, better sleep starts now Find your forever pieces @jennikayne and get 15% off with promo code BETHEREINFIVE at jennikayne.com/BETHEREINFIVE! #jennikaynepartner

This week, Kate starts by sharing the shows she's been watching (Bad Sisters, Shrinking, Pamela: A Love Story, discusses her enthusiasm toward the redemption of victims of 90s misogyny, then reviews the social media ads she can't get away from, and her love/hate relationship with custom songs people commission for Valentine's Day off of Tiktok ads. She then discusses some thoughts on religious deconstruction and then goes into an interview with Heather Gay, Real Housewife of Salt Lake City and author of Bad Mormon (out February 7). They talk about her experiences being raised in the LDS church, marrying into "Mormon royalty," what it was like getting married young, having professional accomplishments overlooked, the challenge of living a life that guarantees you'll still be oppressed in the afterlife, among other things, like having a dad that franchised an Arby's. Kate asks about the black eye too. Enjoy! Books mentioned: Bad Mormon (out February 6) The Making of Biblical Womanhood Jesus and John Wayne Pure SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Cozy Earth provided an exclusive offer for my listener's today. 35% off site wide when you use the code "BETHEREINFIVE" at cozyearth.com Right now we have a special discount just for our listeners. Get 10% off your first order sitewide with code BETHEREINFIVE at OSEAMalibu.com. We worked out a special deal for our dog-loving listeners. Get 35% off your first order of Sundays. Go to SundaysForDogs.com/BETHEREINFIVE or use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout Grab your Liquid I.V. in bulk nationwide at Costco or you can get 20% off when you go to LIQUIDIV.COM and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. That's 20% off ANYTHING you order when you shop better hydration today

This week, Kate talks about Madi Prew & her husband's purity culture-tastic video, then she feels the need to snorkel her issues with golf culture, talks about her affinity for "Dad Stuff," then, she needs a pal to chat with so Kelly dials in, and they discuss taking on snow sports in your 30s, lift ticket couture, California culture, some more thoughts on Spare (e.g. lip gloss and Easter presents), school fundraisers with prizes like limo rides to a Pizza Hut (!!), the joy of a woman's right to choose at a Panera with You Pick Two, among other things. Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: Just go to Hungryroot.com/BETHEREINFIVE, to get 30% off your first delivery and get your free veggies. That's Hungryroot.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Don't forget to use our link, so they know we sent you. Get glasses that stay as fresh as your unique style with Pair. Go to paireyewear.com/BETHEREINFIVE for 15% off your first purchase. Great news—Ritual is offering my listeners 10% off during your first 3 months. Visit ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE to start Ritual or add Essential for Women 18+ to your subscription today. Go to Zocdoc.com/BETHEREINFIVE and download the Zocdoc app for FREE.

This week, Kate's snorkeling (AKA mini deep dives) the week's pressing pop culture topics, according to her IG Q&A box that keeps her in the know while she's still slightly off the grid, like discussing the economics and backlash associated with the Tarte Dubai Influencer trip, the continued skyrocketing of Alix Earle (and else what's on Kate's FYP, like scar girl?). She talks about the rumors surrounding Miley Cyrus' new song Flowers and the barrage of super-specific rumors that came out about her and Liam Hemsworth's relationship out of nowhere. She also goes into a quick rant about Girl Scout cookies, talks TS Eras tour setlist chatter, followed by her formal compilation of every season, month, and aspect of creation that Taylor Swift has successfully co-opted with lyrics, forever making people think an album is dropping when she or Taylor Nation are existing and/or run-of-the-mill tweeting, while we're perennially promoting and speculating over nothing. The last hour, because everyone's totally not burnt out of this topic by now, Kate shares her core takeaways she believes are in need of more airtime from Prince Harry's memoir, Spare, e.g. the EASTER PRESENTS of it all (???), the love story that reads as Lonestar's "Amazed," the whiplash in the descriptions of Kate, and the irritating times Harry forgoes details that are like, the only times she wanted more details. Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Get the New Year bundle for free plus $10 off when you sign up today. That's a 14 oz pork tenderloin, 2 lbs of ground turkey, and 4 top sirloin steaks free in your first box. Sign up at ButcherBox.com/BETHEREINFIVE and use code BETHEREINFIVE to claim this offer! Find your forever pieces @jennikayne and get 15% off with promo code BETHEREINFIVE at jennikayne.com/BETHEREINFIVE! #jennikaynepartner Grab your Liquid I.V. in bulk nationwide at Costco or you can get 20% off when you go to LIQUIDIV.COM and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. That's 20% off ANYTHING you order when you shop better hydration today using promo code BETHEREINFIVE at LIQUIDIV.COM. We worked out a special deal for our dog-loving listeners. Get 35% off your first order of Sundays. Go to SundaysForDogs.com/BETHEREINFIVE or use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. Upgrade your pup to Sundays and feel good about the food you feed your dog.

This week, Kate is solo (and has the plague!) as we kick off 2023 with a Katelilah episode where she answers listener voicemails and is thrilled to have someone to talk to in isolation. Topics include discussing the trend of having style "words," personal style evolution, the Tiktok trend of dressing your mom, top internet sleuthing tips, Kate's thoughts about internet detectives going too far, the evolution of celeb paparazzi shots, Taylor Swift being driven by accolades/success metrics and guessing her Enneagram, some thoughts on how vanity metrics drive people in general after we no longer have grades for institutional validation, she also talks about "nice guy" syndrome in response to a listener being treated transactionally on a date, among other things. Enjoy and Happy New Year! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! Helix is offering up to 200 dollars off all mattress orders AND two free pillows for our listeners! Go to HelixSleep.com/bethereinfive. With Helix, better sleep starts now. Right now, Hungryroot is offering Be There In Five listeners 30% off your first delivery and free veggies for life. Just go to Hungryroot.com/BETHEREINFIVE, to get 30% off your first delivery and get your free veggies. Get 10% off your first order sitewide with code BETHEREINFIVE at OSEAMalibu.com. You'll get free samples with every order, and free shipping on orders over $50. Ritual is offering my listeners 10% off during your first 3 months. Visit ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE to start Ritual or add Essential for Women 18+ to your subscription today.

This week, Kate has Carmen James (@thegoodcarmablog) on the podcast to talk about the 6-part reality docu-series Harry & Meghan. Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Let Audible help you discover new ways to laugh, be inspired, or be entertained. New members can try it free for 30 days. Visit Audible.com/bethereinfive or text bethereinfive to 500-500. For a gift that will impress, check out OSEA's Bestseller Minis Collection. Right now our listeners get 10% off your first order with promo code BETHEREINFIVE at OSEAMalibu.com. You'll even get free samples with every order, and orders over $50 get free shipping. Experiment with who you can be in 2023 with Pair. Go to paireyewear.com/BETHEREINFIVE for 15% off your first purchase. Go to Zocdoc.com/BETHEREINFIVE and download the Zocdoc app for FREE. Then start your search for a top-rated doctor today. Many are available within 24 hours.