
Revitalize and Replant
Your church doesn’t have to die. God is moving, even in the most difficult places. The Revitalize and Replant podcast equips pastors to take their churches from declining to thriving by pointing them to a new future and a new hope. Tune in for weekly encouragement and practical advice for your pastoring journey.
Latest episodes

May 22, 2025 • 23min
How to Shepherd Your Church Well: Protecting
Mark Clifton, Mark Hallock, and Dan Hurst discuss how pastors can feed the people in your church.Resources Related to this Episode:Leading Church Revitalization by Mark Hallock

May 15, 2025 • 23min
How to Shepherd Your Church Well: Leading
Mark Clifton, Mark Hallock, and Dan Hurst discuss how pastors can feed the people in your church.The role of preaching in shepherding the church. What is your strategy for raising up pastors and deacons in the life of your church?Resources Related to this Episode:Leading Church Revitalization by Mark Hallock

May 8, 2025 • 24min
How to Shepherd Your Church Well: Feeding
Mark Clifton, Mark Hallock, and Dan Hurst discuss how pastors can feed the people in your church.Resources Related to this Episode:Leading Church Revitalization by Mark Hallock

May 1, 2025 • 28min
How to Shepherd Your Church Well
Mark Clifton, Mark Hallock, and Dan Hurst discuss how pastors can shepherd well in their churches.How can a pastor know his flock?Feeding, leading, and protecting require knowing the flockResources Related to this Episode:Leading Church Revitalization by Mark Hallock

Apr 24, 2025 • 21min
What to Change and How to Change it in Revitalization and Replanting
Mark Clifton, Mark Hallock, and Dan Hurst discuss how pastors can navigate leading through changes early in their ministry at a church.Why “Don’t change anything in the first year” is a bit too simplistic.Help your folks understand the “why” behind changes.Am I the right person to lead this change, and if not, am I better suited for a second-chair ministry?

Apr 17, 2025 • 31min
Shepherding in Difficult and Awkward Situations
Mark Clifton, Mark Hallock, and Dan Hurst discuss some difficult situations that pastors may need to shepherd through in their churches.How do you shepherd an unmarried couple who have been attending your church, but have been dishonest about their living situation?A couple asks you to perform their marriage ceremony. They claim to be believers but are not actively involved in any church.How do you shepherd church members who are unwise in their social media usage?How do you shepherd a leader whose marriage is clearly not in a good spot, but they are unwilling to talk about it?Issues surrounding alcohol usage.

Apr 10, 2025 • 31min
Key Questions to Ask When Welcoming Visitors
Mark Clifton, Mark Hallock, and Dan Hurst talk about some ways to effectively connect with first-time visitors.

Apr 3, 2025 • 22min
5 Indicators that Your Church Has Been Revitalized
Mark Clifton, Mark Hallock, and Dan Hurst discuss an article from Sam Rainer on some simple metrics to determine if your church is truly revitalized.Children and students comprise 25% or more of average worship attendance.Conversion ratio reaches 20:1 or better.Giving consistently exceeds expenses.Deferred maintenance is minimized.The number of people in groups is 80% or more of average worship attendance.Resources Related to this Episode:“How to Know Your Church is Revitalized (5 Key Indicators)” by Sam Rainer

Mar 28, 2025 • 25min
A Conversation with D.J. Horton
Mark Clifton and Dan Hurst welcome D.J. Horton, President of the 2025 SBC Pastor’s Conference, to the show! D.J. talks about his heart for bivocational pastors, church revitalization, and some things surrounding the 2025 SBC Pastor’s Conference in Dallas this June.D.J.’s journey in ministry to this point, including his 20+ years at Church at the Mill.D.J.’s life as the son of a bivocational pastor and his experience in smaller membership churches.The heart behind the 2025 SBC Pastor’s ConferenceWhy pastors of smaller churches should make it to the Pastor’s Conference and SBC Annual Meeting in Dallas in June.

Mar 27, 2025 • 24min
When a Pastor's Kid Resists His Ministry
Mark Clifton, Mark Hallock, and Dan Hurst discuss an article from Barnabas Piper about what to do when your children resist and even resent your ministry in the church.Remember your family is your primary ministry.Remember you are called to lead your family.Acknowledge that ministry is hard on kids and costly to families.Consider the stage your kids are in and the cost of ministry for them.Take your kids’ challenges to your fellow leaders for prayer and careConsider your home and family dynamicsConsider your church’s relational and cultural dynamicsFind outlets for reliefConsider stepping away from ministry.Resources Related to this Episode:“Help! My Kids Aren’t on Board with Ministry” by Barnabas Piper