Revitalize and Replant To Count or Not to Count
Aug 7, 2025
The discussion dives into the relevance of counting worship attendance, weighing both healthy and unhealthy motivations. It highlights how numbers can promote discipleship and connection while warning against legalism and the risks of charisma overshadowing true calling. The speakers share personal experiences to underline the importance of valuing individual souls over statistics. With insights on how attendance correlates with spiritual growth, they emphasize the need for authenticity in ministry rather than just focusing on numerical successes.
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Car Counting in Parking Lot
- Dan Hurst shared a story about his pastor counting cars in the parking lot to track attendance.
- Dan even lied about the car count to please the pastor, showing early importance given to numbers.
Attendance Affects Pastor's Mood
- Mark Clifton's elders stopped counting attendance to improve his mood and work ease.
- They noticed attendance numbers affected his emotional state and interactions at church.
Growth Isn't Pastoral Success
- Pastors often equate church growth with personal success, which is a fleshly mindset.
- The New Testament emphasizes kingdom growth over numeric counting and obsession with attendance.