

Self-Funded With Spencer
Spencer Smith
Self-funded with Spencer shares inspiring conversations with the most successful and influential people in healthcare - company founders, CEOs, entrepreneurs, doctors, sales leaders, and more - to help educate and inspire YOU to become the best version of yourself.
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Jan 30, 2024 • 55min
Closing the Mental Health Gap (with Megan Rozanski)
“I think we're now at a point where we as a society are recognizing we can't wait until it gets bad enough. And how do we get people into care sooner?" - Megan Rozanski
I wanted to close out January with a focus on mental health and how to continue breaking down the stigma surrounding it, and Megan Rozanski was gracious enough to join me in the studio to do just that.
Expanding access to and improving the delivery of healthcare have been two key values of the podcast since the beginning, and those objectives are no less important in the mental health sphere.
How did COVID impact the future of mental health care? What pushed Megan to leave her corporate career and take on the uncertainties and challenges of founding a startup in the industry? And what can we do to improve access to care?
Join us to learn the answers to all of those questions and more, this week on the Self Funded podcast!
A few of Megan's sources:
Increased comorbidities and total cost of care: https://www.psychiatry.org/File%20Library/Psychiatrists/Practice/Professional-Topics/Integrated-Care/Milliman-Report-Economic-Impact-Integrated-Implications-Psychiatry.pdf
Share of employees in poor mental health who couldn't get into treatment: https://www.kff.org/private-insurance/poll-finding/kff-survey-of-consumer-experiences-with-health-insurance/
Increased likelihood of going out of network to see a behavioral health provider versus primary care: https://www.milliman.com/en/insight/addiction-and-mental-health-vs-physical-health-widening-disparities-in-network-use-and-p
Chapters:
(00:01:41) The Entrepreneurial Journey in a Mental Health Startup
(00:09:41) Supportive Work Environments for Mental Health
(00:14:22) Revolutionizing Therapist Matching
(00:20:56) Personalized Therapy Matching Algorithm
(00:29:45) Reducing Barriers and Expanding Access to Mental Health Care
(00:35:52) Improving Mental Health Care for Self-Funded Employers
(00:49:12) Underserved mid-sized employers seeking mental health access
Key Links for Social:
@SelfFunded on YouTube for video versions of the podcast and much more - https://www.youtube.com/@SelfFunded
Listen on Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/1TjmrMrkIj0qSmlwAIevKA?si=068a389925474f02
Listen on Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/self-funded-with-spencer/id1566182286
Follow Spencer on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/spencer-smith-self-funded/
Follow Spencer on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/selffundedwithspencer/
Key Words:
#mentalhealth #startup #founder #accessibility #therapy #selfcare #workplacewellness #destigmatize #employeewellbeing #healthtech #HealthcareIndustry #SelfFunding #SelfFunded #Podcast
Mental Health, Startup, Founder, Accessibility, Therapy, Self Care, Workplace Wellness, Destigmatize, Employee Wellbeing, Health Tech, Healthcare Industry, Self Funding, Self Funded, Podcast

Jan 23, 2024 • 1h 8min
Direct Primary Care: The Physician Perspective (with Dr. David Cameron)
"Whereas the current structure pits [employers, doctors, and patients] against each other, with Direct Primary Care, we all want the same thing." - Dr. David Cameron
For Dr. David Cameron, DPC (direct primary care) isn't just another health insurance acronym; it’s a revolutionary approach to delivering healthcare that has transformed his role as a physician.
Beyond incorporating DPC into his practice, David, in his capacity as the Chief Medical Officer at Hint Connect, is actively working to expand the reach of direct primary care to as many practices as possible. His mission is clear: aligning the interests of employers, patients, and doctors for a more cohesive healthcare system.
I had the pleasure of speaking with David to gain some insight into the physician's perspective on direct primary care; how it’s not just more cost-effective, but also an efficient and convenient way to provide healthcare. Join us on this DPC-themed episode of Self Funded for an enlightening conversation about the future of healthcare—you won't want to miss it.
Chapters:
(00:04:19) Personalized Healthcare for Longevity and Well-being
(00:14:12) Membership-based Primary Care with Unlimited Access
(00:26:25) Decrease in HIV and Tuberculosis Cases
(00:33:09) Streamlining Onboarding and Ensuring DPC Success
(00:42:41) Text-Based Communication in Direct Primary Care
(00:47:10) Comprehensive and Convenient Healthcare Services
(00:55:10) Challenges and Opportunities in Direct Primary Care
(00:58:33) Streamlining Onboarding for Physicians Starting DPC Practices
(01:00:56) The Surge of Direct Primary Care
(01:07:08) Transformation of healthcare through direct primary care
Key Links for Social:
@SelfFunded on YouTube for video versions of the podcast and much more - https://www.youtube.com/@SelfFunded
Listen on Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/1TjmrMrkIj0qSmlwAIevKA?si=068a389925474f02
Listen on Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/self-funded-with-spencer/id1566182286
Follow Spencer on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/spencer-smith-self-funded/
Follow Spencer on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/selffundedwithspencer/
Key Words:
#directprimarycare #healthcare #costeffective #accessibility #selffunding #physician #primarycare #transformation #healthylifestyle #healthcareindustry
Direct Primary Care, Healthcare, Cost Effective, Accessibility, Physician, Primary Care, Transformation, Healthy Lifestyle, Healthcare Industry, Self Funding, Self Funded, Podcast

Jan 16, 2024 • 47min
Demanding Healthcare Justice (with Emma Fox)
"The only thing that will fix healthcare is restoring the doctor patient relationship without anybody in between it." - Emma Fox
Emma Fox joins me on this special pre-YouPowered Symposium episode to talk about her healthcare journey, from moving to America and discovering just how broken our system was for the first time to recently meeting with the President to discuss what needs to be done.
Emma’s early experience with medical debt and medical bankruptcy inspired her huge passion for transparency and change in this industry. We talk about what can be done in the current system, what needs to be torn down and rebuilt, and how helping people on Reddit is playing a small part in getting more people aware of what needs to be done.
My conversation with Emma Fox not only underscores the urgency for transformative changes in healthcare, but also the impact that personal narratives and direct doctor-patient relationships have in shaping a healthier, more just future for us all.
Chapters:
(00:00:28) The Importance Of Physical Fitness As We Age
(00:06:34) Dealing With Overwhelming Medical Debt
(00:10:10) Becoming A First-Time Entrepreneur
(00:17:00) Creating a Transparent and Inclusive Healthcare System
(00:20:51) Restoring the Doctor-Patient Relationship: DPC for All
(00:24:39) Optimizing health insurance for cost reduction
(00:29:53) Understanding the distinction between healthcare and health insurance
(00:35:25) Breaking down healthcare jargon for better understanding
Key Links for Social:
@SelfFunded on YouTube for video versions of the podcast and much more - https://www.youtube.com/@SelfFunded
Listen on Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/1TjmrMrkIj0qSmlwAIevKA?si=068a389925474f02
Listen on Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/self-funded-with-spencer/id1566182286
Follow Spencer on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/spencer-smith-self-funded/
Follow Spencer on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/selffundedwithspencer/
Key Words: Healthcare Reform, Transparency, Physical Fitness, Healthcare Advocacy, Medical Debt, DPC For All, Healthcare Education, Self Funded, Health Insurance Podcast

Jan 11, 2024 • 35min
A Couple On A Healthcare Mission (With David Contorno & Emma Fox)
"If you show me the incentives, I'll show you the outcomes." - David Contorno
"I want to fix the healthcare system. My mission ended up being to correct the injustices I find in the healthcare system as I find them. And that's what I do every single day." - Emma Fox
On this bonus episode of Self Funded With Spencer, I sat down with David Contorno and Emma Fox for this bonus episode focusing on how their aligned views on the healthcare landscape led to their marriage and their mutual business ventures.
We dive into how David started in this industry at the age of 12 (!), how the vision of the YouPowered Symposium came to life, and what it’s like to be married to your business partner.
Be sure to check out this week’s full episode with David Contorno, and next week’s episode with Emma Fox.
For more information on the YouPowered Symposium, check out YouPoweredSymposium.com.
Chapters:
(00:04:05) Passionate For Change
(00:09:00) Making Gradual Changes for Long-Term Health
(00:13:25) Correcting Healthcare Injustices: Emma and David's Mission
(00:16:13) Ethical Insurance and Transparent Health Consulting
(00:20:07) Creating Lasting Impact in Healthcare Discussions
(00:31:30) Realignment for Health and Well-being in Healthcare
Key Links for Social:
@SelfFunded on YouTube for video versions of the podcast and much more - https://www.youtube.com/@SelfFunded
Listen on Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/1TjmrMrkIj0qSmlwAIevKA?si=068a389925474f02
Listen on Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/self-funded-with-spencer/id1566182286
Follow Spencer on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/spencer-smith-self-funded/
Follow Spencer on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/selffundedwithspencer/
Key Words: Healthcare Reform, Transparency, Health Insurance Industry, Healthcare Advocacy, Health And Wellness, Healthcare Industry, Misaligned Incentives, Healthcare Priorities, Self Funded, Health Insurance Podcast

Jan 9, 2024 • 40min
The Real Cost of Health Insurance (with David Contorno)
"Health insurance has been so perverted that it becomes the one insurance that we go bankrupt when we use." - David Contorno
I was super grateful to have David Contorno, founder of e-Powered Benefits, join me on the podcast for a conversation covering many aspects of the healthcare landscape, from how brokers can think outside the boxes to change the industry to how we need to change the way employers look at wellness plans.
At a time when the average family premium is over $23,000 a year, there’s significant financial strain associated with healthcare that can and does lead to bankruptcy when healthcare services are actually used. David is a huge name in the healthcare landscape, so I was eager to get his thoughts on reforming the current system vs. completely rethinking how we approach healthcare in the first place.
Join David and I on today’s show as we discuss, among other things, the future of what we do.
Chapters:
(00:01:53) Introducing David Contorno
(00:09:32) The Financial Burden of Health Insurance In 2023
(00:13:46) Investing in Employee Well-being for Cost Savings
(00:17:40) Strategic Approaches to Lower Healthcare Costs
(00:23:16) Leveraging Employer Resources for Healthcare Improvements
(00:27:07) The Diminishing Value of Insurance Networks
(00:34:33) Leveraging Employer Influence to Transform Healthcare
Key Links for Social:
@SelfFunded on YouTube for video versions of the podcast and much more - https://www.youtube.com/@SelfFunded
Listen on Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/1TjmrMrkIj0qSmlwAIevKA?si=068a389925474f02
Listen on Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/self-funded-with-spencer/id1566182286
Follow Spencer on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/spencer-smith-self-funded/
Follow Spencer on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/selffundedwithspencer/
Key Words: Healthcare Reform, Wellness Programs, Accurate Diagnoses, Cost Of Health Insurance, Innovative Approaches, Employer Power, Utility Of Networks, Changing Healthcare, Smaller Employers, Self Funded, Health Insurance Podcast

Jan 2, 2024 • 59min
Samaritan Fund - Medical Expense Relief That Changes Lives
"If we can take that [financial] anxiety away from them to where they can focus on their health, that's our mission, that's our cause. That's what we want to do." - Brett Morris
Brett Morris joins me on the podcast for a conversation revolving around the Samaritan Fund Program, which he developed to help those individuals and families who have been physically and financially devastated by a medical diagnosis.
He directly works with employers and employees, helping to mitigate high-cost medical expenses on the employer’s end while enabling them to help their employees when they most need it.
An interesting side effect of the Samaritan Fund is that it enables employers who would otherwise go fully insured due to specific high-cost claims to afford self funding their business.
Join us on today’s show as we talk about the human impact of the Samaritan Fund and Brett’s unique approach to helping employees and employers.
Chapters:
4:53 - What Is The Samaritan Fund?
10:26 - The Role of The Samaritan Fund in Employee Benefits
23:55 - Connecting Employers and Individuals in Need
31:04 - Financial Hardship Caused by High Cost Prescription Drugs
35:16 - Paycheck Donations: Empowering Employees to Give
42:21 - Reducing Expenses through Alternative Healthcare Plans
52:57 - Transparent Pricing: Empowering Consumers in Healthcare
Key Links for Social:
@SelfFunded on YouTube for video versions of the podcast and much more - https://www.youtube.com/@SelfFunded
Listen on Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/1TjmrMrkIj0qSmlwAIevKA?si=068a389925474f02
Listen on Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/self-funded-with-spencer/id1566182286
Follow Spencer on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/spencer-smith-self-funded/
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Key Words: Employee Benefits, Financial Relief, Employer Support, Helping Those In Need, Good Samaritan, Medical Costs, Prescription Drugs, Giving Back, High Cost Claims, Medical Claim Relief, Risk Mitigation, Healthcare Costs, Innovative Solutions, Self Funded

Dec 27, 2023 • 1h 12min
Ask Us Anything - LinkedIn Live with Seth Denson (12/20/23)
In this special episode of Self-Funded with Spencer, I am joined by my friend Seth Denson for my first ever live version of the podcast through LinkedIn Live.
This episode was previously recorded on 12/20/23, but I wanted to make sure that those who missed it on LinkedIn, still had an opportunity to watch and listen.
Seth is the Head of Employee Benefits at Acrisure and he also features daily as a sought after business and market analyst for Fox News, CNN, NewsMax, OANN and more.
In this spirit of an AMA, no question was off limits, so we covered things like:
Our Hair Routines
Seth's Media Life
Whether we wear makeup!
The role of Wellness Benefits
Thoughts on RFP Software
ParetoHealth (Captives)
Seth's time working at a concert venue
Our favorite bands to see live
Our 3 favorite books
And more!
Social Links:
Self-Funded's Channel - https://www.youtube.com/ @SelfFunded
Follow Spencer on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/spencer-smith-self-funded/
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Dec 19, 2023 • 1h 2min
Advanced Medical Strategies - Stacy Borans - Founder of AMS
Advanced Medical Strategies - Stacy Borans - Founder of AMS
Stacy Borans is a seasoned expert in healthcare technology and data analysis, with a robust background in medical cost management.
As a key player at Advanced Medical Strategies (AMS), she has been instrumental in developing software solutions for payment accuracy, risk assessment, and business intelligence in the healthcare industry. Her perspective on healthcare technology and data analysis in medical cost management is shaped by her experiences at AMS, where she noticed excessively high bills during medical reviews and saw an opportunity to work on the financial aspect of cost management.
Stacy advocates for transparency in chargemaster pricing and cash pricing, and emphasizes the importance of reference-based pricing. She believes that these strategies can help determine the relevant charge for medical services, although she acknowledges that it may not always result in the lowest price.
Join Spencer Smith and Stacy Borans as they delve deeper into this topic on the next episode of the Self Funded podcast.
Chapters:
00:01:08 Creative cocktail concoctions
00:06:46 AMS: Innovating Healthcare Management Solutions
00:10:43 Understanding the Financial Impact of Self Funding
00:16:21 Shaping the Future of Healthcare Cost Containment
00:21:13 Healthcare Solutions for Complex Medical Cases
00:27:24 Catastrophic Diagnoses Cost Projections Software
00:33:09 Comprehensive Risk Assessment and Pricing Tool
00:40:38 Achieving Transparency in Healthcare Decision-Making
00:46:32 Analyzing Group Risk Profiles Using Census Data
00:56:26 The Impact of AI on Healthcare Diagnoses
Key Links for Social
Self-Funded's Channel - https://www.youtube.com/ @SelfFunded
Listen on Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/1TjmrMrkIj0qSmlwAIevKA?si=068a389925474f02
Listen on Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/self-funded-with-spencer/id1566182286
Listen on Spotify for Podcasters - https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/spencer-harlan-smith
Follow Spencer on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/spencer-smith-self-funded/
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Key Words: Medical Strategies, Claims Strategies, Data Analytics, Business Intelligence, Business Intelligence Software, BI Software, Claims Analytics, Insurtech Software, Software for Underwriters, Systems for Carriers, Software for Insurance Carriers, Technology for Insurance, Technology for Insurance Brokers, Tech for Insurance Consultants, Tech for Healthcare, Software for Doctors, Software for Third Party Administrators

Dec 12, 2023 • 1h
A Benefit For Parents - ParentMD
Josh Honaker is a seasoned pediatrician from South Central Kentucky, renowned for his expertise in integrating telehealth and education in pediatric healthcare.
He currently serves as the CEO of Parent MD, a platform that embodies his belief in the necessity of Telehealth and education as solutions to common frustrations and disconnects in pediatric healthcare.
Dr. Honaker's perspective is shaped by his experiences with time constraints and high patient volumes, which often leave parents feeling frustrated and uninformed.
He sees Telehealth and education as vital tools to improve healthcare access and provide parents with reliable information and resources. Honaker envisions Parent MD as a platform that unites Telehealth partners, educational content, and a supportive community to enhance the medical home and provide comprehensive care for children.
Join Spencer Smith and Dr. Josh Honaker on this episode of the @SelfFunded with Spencer podcast to delve deeper into this innovative approach to pediatric healthcare.
Key Words: Telehealth, Direct Primary Care, DPC, Pediatrics, Pediatrics Telehealth, Parents, Education for Parents, Community for Parents, Resources for Parents, Employee Benefits for Parents, Healthcare, Employee Benefits, Benefits Brokers, Insurance Brokers, Insurance Consultants, Employer-Sponsored Healthcare, Innovations in Healthcare
Key Links for Social
Self-Funded's Channel - https://www.youtube.com/ @SelfFunded
Listen on Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/1TjmrMrkIj0qSmlwAIevKA?si=068a389925474f02
Listen on Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/self-funded-with-spencer/id1566182286
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Follow Spencer on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/spencer-smith-self-funded/
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Chapters:
00:00:00 Virtual Pediatrician Partnership for Holistic Childcare
00:03:57 The Impact of Mentorship on Choosing Pediatrics
00:14:56 Entrepreneurial Pediatric Care: A Unique Approach
00:21:44 Virtual consultations for comprehensive pediatric care
00:28:58 "Comprehensive Digital Resource for New Parents"
00:37:39 Expanding direct-to-consumer model to employers
00:43:48 Future plans for personalized nutrition education
00:46:22 Transforming Healthcare Delivery for Cost-Effective Care
00:52:11 Revolutionizing Healthcare with AI
00:56:11 Advancements in healthcare for optimal human health

Dec 5, 2023 • 1h 5min
How Should Brokers Get Paid - Jonathan Lopez
How Should Insurance Brokers Get Paid - Jonathan Lopez
Jonathan Lopez's career journey is a testament to the power of hard work and continuous learning. From a shoulder injury in the Marine Corps to earning a doctorate in leadership, Lopez has overcome obstacles and embraced opportunities to shape his professional path.
Lopez's commitment to helping others extends beyond his career. He is actively involved in fundraising for wells in Tanzania through the Water Boys organization. This philanthropic effort not only builds wells but also ensures their maintenance and management, providing clean water to communities in need.
In a recent episode of the podcast "Self Funded," hosted by Spencer Smith, Lopez and Smith delve into the complexities of incentives in the insurance industry. They emphasize the importance of transparency and integrity in navigating this field. Lopez highlights the issue of misaligned incentives and what he refers to as "dark money," shedding light on the need for greater accountability.
The conversation also touches on shared savings arrangements and compensation structures for consultants. The evolving landscape of the insurance industry demands a closer examination of who gets paid and how much at each step of the equation. Lopez and Smith recognize the need for more transparency and integrity in the industry, challenging the perception of insurance as a greedy or stagnant field.
Comedy emerges as a powerful tool for delivering harsh truths and sparking meaningful conversations. Lopez and Smith discuss the influence of comedy in addressing industry issues and dispelling misconceptions. They highlight the role of comedians like Joe Rogan, who use their platforms to share perspectives and engage audiences through humor.
Artificial intelligence (AI) emerges as a game-changer in the insurance industry, particularly in underwriting and prepayment of claims. Lopez emphasizes the benefits of AI in analyzing patterns and resolving issues efficiently. The vast amount of healthcare data available allows AI to make data-driven decisions, leading to more accurate risk assessment and cost-saving strategies.
Chapters
00:03:29 From $20 to Doctorate: Overcoming Obstacles
00:06:46 Climbing Mount Kilimanjaro to Fund Wells
00:09:58 Sustainable well management for clean water access
00:19:48 Misaligned incentives and dark money in insurance
00:28:33 Incentivized cost savings through shared arrangements
00:34:34 Prescription-based Comp for Insurance Consultants
00:40:25 The Power of Comedy in Delivering Truth
00:41:48 AI's Impact on Claim Management in Insurance
00:50:45 Revolutionizing Underwriting with AI Technology
00:59:27 Optimizing Insurance Plans w/ Pre-Underwriting Analysis


