
Profit with Law: Profitable Law Firm Growth
Small Law Firms often start from the practice of law and not as a business venture. This ends up causing the growth of the firm to be much longer and more painful than it needs to be. If you started a Law Firm with the intention of increasing your impact, freeing up your time and having all the money you will ever need then the strategies we discuss will be priceless for you. Profit with Law is a show focused on the business of running a law firm as a profitable venture. Packaging and pricing your services, getting clients consistently, growing your staff in a way that feels good to you and implementing systems and technology to set yourself up for success are all discussions you will find here on the show. Moshe Amsel the host of the Profit with Law podcast is not an attorney. He has spent 20 years as an executive in the IT industry before becoming an accountant and business advisor for small businesses. As the owner of a successful accounting firm DreamBuilder Financial and Law Firm Growth coaching organization Profit with Law, Moshe has proven that there are better and different ways for a law firm to do business and be successful. Our mission is to empower all people with wealth creation so that this and future generations can lead a better life. We’d love nothing more than to do this by helping law firm owners on their journey. A law firm is not for practice it’s for profit!
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Nov 9, 2023 • 45min
Unleash the Power of AI: Revolutionize Your Operations and Drive Growth with Shanif Dhanani - 404
Send us a textShownotes can be found at https://www.profitwithlaw.com/0404.In a world where data and technology reign supreme, small business owners often find themselves struggling to keep up. But what if I told you there was a self-proclaimed data geek who has unlocked the secrets to leveraging AI for small businesses? Meet Shanif Dhanani, a man with over 20 years of experience in AI and software development. But here's the unexpected twist: Shanif isn't just here to talk about the power of AI – he's here to show you how to harness it without breaking the bank. Ready to discover the untapped potential of AI for your small business? Get ready for a journey that will revolutionize the way you do business.In this episode, you will be able to:Discover the diverse applications of Chat GPT in AI and how it can revolutionize your business operations.Uncover the power of leveraging AI for small businesses and how it can help streamline processes and boost productivity.Explore the game-changing AI tools specifically designed for law firms, unlocking new levels of efficiency and effectiveness.Learn about the numerous benefits of incorporating technology into legal practices and how it can transform the way you serve clients.Understand the importance of education in the legal industry and how staying up-to-date can give you a competitive edge.Chapters:[00:00] Introduction to Shanif Dhanani[04:06] Understanding AI and Chat GPT[06:46] Real-World Applications of Chat GPT[09:55] AI in Everyday Life[15:17] The importance of cross-checking AI-generated responses[17:12] Small business applications of AI[18:23] Affordable options for small businesses[20:30] Real-world use cases of AI in businesses[27:57] Using Chat GPT for Networking and Hiring[32:47] Using Chat GPT for Legal Document Drafting[42:26] Introduction and Offer of AssistanceResources: Check out our Profit with Law YouTube channel!Connect with Shanif Dhanani: Facebook | LinkedIn | TwitterCheck out Shanif Dhanani's website for more information on his AI and Chat GPT consulting services: https://www.datagrown.com/Consider using Chat GPT to generate blog posts, marketing content, and social media posts for your law firm: https://chat.openai.com/ Join our Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/lawfirmgrowthsummit/To request a show topic, recommend a guest or ask a question for the show, please send an email to info@dreambuilderfinancial.com.Connect with Moshe on:Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/moshe.amselLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mosheamsel/

Nov 2, 2023 • 44min
From Chaos to Control: Time Management Secrets for Busy Law Firm Owners - Anna Dearmon Kornick - 403
Send us a textShownotes can be found at https://www.profitwithlaw.com/403 Do you want to unlock your true potential and maximize your productivity as a busy law firm owner? Are you searching for the key to achieving outstanding results in your professional life? Look no further! In this episode, we have the pleasure of hosting Anna Dearmon Kornick, who will be sharing her expert insights and proven strategies to help you transform your time management skills. Get ready to unleash your productivity superpowers and unlock the door to unparalleled success in your law firm.You have more control than you think. You do have the power to change your circumstances. You are not a tree. You can move. - Anna Dearmon KornickIn this episode, you will be able to:Maximize your productivity with effective time management strategies that will improve your efficiency and help you get more done in less time.Learn how to prioritize tasks and utilize delegation techniques to free up your time and focus on the most important responsibilities.Discover the power of role-focused lists and thematic scheduling to organize your day, minimize distractions, and stay on track with your goals.Master the art of capturing processes to successfully delegate tasks and ensure consistency and quality in your law firm operations.Find out how aligning your personal core values with your time allocation can lead to greater fulfillment and work-life balance.Chapters:[00:00] Introduction to Anna[08:09] Finding the Right Path[10:27] Challenges for Law Firm Owners[13:14] Batch Processing and Time Blocking[17:22] The Ineffectiveness of a Long To-Do List[22:42] Solving Time Management Problems[24:21] Reducing Context Switching[28:18] Vision Casting as a Time Management Strategy[34:49] Delegating Low-Impact Activities[38:06] Conducting a Time Study[40:31] Aligning Time with Personal Core ValuesResources:Check out our Profit with Law YouTube channel!Connect with Anna Dearmon: Facebook | Instagram | LinkedInCheck out Anna's podcast It's About Time for weekly stories and strategies on time management and work-life balance. https://annadkornick.com/podcast/ Visit Anna's website to learn more about her coaching services and how she can help you stop feeling overwhelmed and start spending time on what matters most: https://annadkornick.com/Time Management Essentials: The Tools You Need to Maximize Your Attention, Energy, and Productivity Join our Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/lawfirmgrowthsummit/To request a show topic, recommend a guest or ask a question for the show, please send an email to info@dreambuilderfinancial.com.Connect wit

Oct 26, 2023 • 32min
The Caveman Brain Approach to Sales: Dr. Jean Oursler Reveals the Key to Success - 402
Send us a textShownotes can be found at https://www.profitwithlaw.com/402.Have you ever heard these myths about sales and new business development as a lawyer?Myth #1: Lawyers don't need to sell, their work speaks for itself. Myth #2: Sales is pushy and manipulative, lawyers should focus on their expertise. Myth #3: Lawyers are not natural salespeople, it's a skill you either have or you don't.In this episode, our guest Dr. Jean Oursler will debunk these myths and share the truth about overcoming mindset barriers in sales to increase confidence and success.Building relationships and making connections is second nature to lawyers. By leveraging their strong interpersonal skills and focusing on attracting potential clients, lawyers can redefine their approach to sales and achieve remarkable results. - Dr. Jean OurslerIn this episode, you will be able to:Unlock untapped potential in your law firm by optimizing business performance.Overcome mindset barriers to sales and achieve unprecedented levels of success.Identify your ideal target clients for maximum profitability and satisfaction.Discover effective marketing attraction vehicles that will keep clients coming to you.Streamline your law firm by outsourcing non-core tasks and maximizing productivity.[00:00] Introduction to Dr. Jean Oursler[03:54] Caveman Brain and EOS[06:55] Building Relationships for Business Development[09:29] The Caveman Brain Business Growth System[15:45] The Intersection of Caveman Brain and EOS[19:33] Marketing Attraction Vehicles[21:26] Digital Marketing Challenges for Law FirmsResources mentioned:Check out our Profit with Law YouTube channel!Connect with Dr. Jean Oursler: LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook Visit Dr. Jean's website to learn more about her work in business psychology and coaching: www.drjeanoursler.comExplore the Entrepreneurial Operating System (EOS) and learn how it can help you streamline and improve your law firm's operations: https://www.eosworldwide.com/Join our Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/lawfirmgrowthsummit/To request a show topic, recommend a guest or ask a question for the show, please send an email to info@dreambuilderfinancial.com.Connect with Moshe on:Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/moshe.amselLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mosheamsel/

Oct 19, 2023 • 49min
Building a Winning Team: Expert Tips for Hiring and Onboarding with Sid Upadhyay - 401
Send us a textShownotes can be found at https://www.profitwithlaw.com/401.Are you struggling to find and retain top talent for your small business? Are you frustrated and overwhelmed with the constant turnover in your business, spending valuable time and resources on hiring and training only to have employees leave shortly after?In this episode of the Profit with Law podcast, you'll hear an insightful conversation with Moshe Amsel and Sid Upadhyay, the CEO of WizeHire, a platform that aims to revolutionize the hiring process for small businesses. Sid shares his expertise on the importance of effective onboarding and the challenges that entrepreneurs face in finding and retaining talent. He highlights the value of WizeHire's customizable onboarding processes and their commitment to supporting businesses throughout the entire employee lifecycle. Whether you're a small business owner looking to improve your hiring practices or simply interested in the topic, this episode offers valuable insights and strategies to help you scale and thrive.Don't miss out on this opportunity to learn from Sid's expertise and take your hiring practices to the next level!Chapters:[00:00] Introduction[05:08] Introduction to Sid[07:44] Overview of WizeHire's Services[15:05] Streamlining Onboarding and Compliance[16:18] Importance of Effective Onboarding[21:38] Addressing Turnover and Employee Retention[27:59] Using Artificial Intelligence in Hiring[33:18] Hiring Expertise and Standardizing the Process[35:56] Overcoming the Fear of Failure in Hiring[41:06] The Importance of Being Prepared for HiringResources mentioned:Check out our Profit with Law YouTube channel!Episode 06 - Have a Team That Works Hard For You with Molly McGrathEpisode 162 - Hiring the Right Way with Jay Niblick Episode 279 - Building Neuro-Diverse Teams - The Role Different Personalities Play in Innovation, Effectiveness and Goal Achievement with Jay NiblickConnect with Sid Upadhyay: LinkedInWizehire BlogTake advantage of the exclusive discount offered by WizeHire for Profit with Law listeners. Join our Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/lawfirmgrowthsummit/To request a show topic, recommend a guest or ask a question for the show, please send an email to info@dreambuilderfinancial.com.Connect with Moshe on:Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/moshe.amselLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mosheamsel/

Oct 13, 2023 • 26min
Celebrating 400 Episodes with Highlights from our Top 5 Episodes! - 400
Send us a textShownotes can be found at https://www.profitwithlaw.com/400.We've reached Episode 400 of the Profit with Law podcast, and it's time to celebrate the incredible journey we've embarked upon together! To commemorate this milestone, we're bringing you a special episode that distills the wisdom, insights, and invaluable knowledge from our top 5 episodes.Over the years, we've delved into the intricacies of running a successful law practice, transforming your law firm into a thriving business, and navigating the constantly evolving legal landscape. Through interviews with thought leaders, legal experts, and industry visionaries, we've unearthed the secrets to profitability, efficiency, and growth in the legal profession.In this episode, we revisit the most pivotal conversations that have shaped your legal journey. Join us as we re-examine the standout moments, the unforgettable anecdotes, and the game-changing advice from our most popular guests!Whether you've been with us from Episode 1 or just joined our community, this 400th episode is a celebration of your commitment to transforming your legal firm. Join us in honoring the journey we've traveled together and the incredible insights that have made Profit with Law a cornerstone for legal entrepreneurs.Thank you for being a part of this incredible journey, and here's to the next 400 episodes of prosperity, growth, and success in the world of law!Chapters:[00:00] Introduction[00:38] Building the 7 Figure Attorney Mindset and Reality with Craig Goldenfarb - 291[04:58] Learn How to Embrace Confidence and Profit with Charley Mann - 306[11:36] The Fundamentals of Starting a Successful Law Firm with Mark Rockwell - 285[15:26] Women Empowerment and How to Avoid These Two Common Mistakes with Jaimee Hall - 301[20:19] Reducing Your Workload with Fractional Executive Assistants with Valerie Trapunsky - 282Resources mentioned:As part of our celebration, we’re running a giveaway! We’ll be giving away The Law Firm Owner's Bookshelf - Moshe’s top book picks for the ultimate law firm growth!All you need to do is share a Profit with Law episode (any episode) with a friend or colleague who could benefit from it. Then email a screenshot of sharing it to info@dreambuilderfinancial.comhttps://www.profitwithlaw.com/291https://www.profitwithlaw.com/306https://www.profitwithlaw.com/285https://www.profitwithlaw.com/301https://www.profitwithlaw.com/282Join our Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/lawfirmgrowthsummit/To request a show topic, recommend a guest or ask a question for the show, please send an email to info@dreambuilderfinancial.com.Connect with Moshe on:Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/moshe.amselLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mosheamse

Oct 5, 2023 • 46min
How to Unlock Business Success with Systemization and Documentation with Josh Fonger - 399
Send us a textShownotes can be found at https://www.profitwithlaw.com/399.Does this sound familiar? You've been told that the key to scaling your business is simply working harder and putting in more hours. But despite your best efforts, you're still feeling overwhelmed, stressed, and struggling to see the results you desire. The truth is, working harder isn't the answer.In this episode, Moshe Amsel is joined by Josh Fonger, who will reveal the power of systemization and documentation, enabling you to optimize your processes and achieve unprecedented levels of productivity and growth. By implementing these strategies, you can streamline your business, increase efficiency, and finally achieve the scalability you've been longing for.Chapters:[00:00] Introduction to Josh Fonger[7:24] The Work The System Method[11:42] Implementing Systems in a Law Firm[16:29] The Importance of Documentation[20:55] Hire or Create Systems First?[27:06] Where is the Fire?[30:56] The Sales Role[35:00] Systemizing Sales for Scalability[36:57] Josh's Parting Piece of AdviceResources mentioned:Sign up for our FREE Training, The Thriving Law Firm CEO Revolution!Check out our Profit with Law YouTube channel!Connect with Josh Fonger: Facebook | LinkedInWork the System by Sam CarpenterJoin our Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/lawfirmgrowthsummit/To request a show topic, recommend a guest or ask a question for the show, please send an email to info@dreambuilderfinancial.com.Connect with Moshe on:Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/moshe.amselLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mosheamsel/

Sep 28, 2023 • 38min
CEO-COO Dynamics Unveiled: Unlocking the Key to Effective Leadership with Cameron Herold - 398
Send us a textShownotes can be found at https://www.profitwithlaw.com/398.Does this sound familiar? You've been told that the key to scaling your law firm is to work harder, put in more hours, and juggle multiple tasks yourself. But despite your efforts, you're feeling overwhelmed, burned out, and unable to achieve the growth you desire. It's time to break free from this ineffective action that only leads to exhaustion and frustration.In this episode, our guest, Cameron Herold, will share how hiring a second-in-command can help you scale your business to new heights. By implementing this strategy, you can attain the desired outcome of driving growth and achieving remarkable success.Stay tuned and discover the power of having a trusted second-in-command who can help you delegate effectively and focus on what you do best.Chapters:[00:00] Introduction to Cameron Herold[06:16] When to Hire [14:14] Finding the Right Second-in-Command [18:50] Choosing the Right Title for Your Second-in-Command [20:06] The CEO and COO Dynamic [22:50] The Second-in-Command Scorecard[26:04] A COO's Biggest Challenge[30:12] Where to Find a Good COO[33:53] Investing in Your Leaders Resources mentioned:Sign up for our FREE Training, The Thriving Law Firm CEO Revolution!Check out our Profit with Law YouTube channel!Connect with Cameron Herold: Website | Facebook | Facebook Group | LinkedIn | LinkedIn Page | Instagram | Twitter | YouTubeThe Second in Command: Unleash the Power of Your COO by Cameron HeroldPodcast: Second in Command, The Chief Behind the ChiefBlue Shark DigitalBader Scott, Injury LawyersSMB TeamJoin our Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/lawfirmgrowthsummit/To request a show topic, recommend a guest or ask a question for the show, please send an email to info@dreambuilderfinancial.com.Connect with Moshe on:Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/moshe.amselLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mosheamsel/

Sep 21, 2023 • 44min
From Indecision to Action: Paul Epstein Reveals the Secrets to Faster, Better Decisions - 397
Send us a textShownotes can be found at https://www.profitwithlaw.com/397.If you're feeling overwhelmed and stuck in a cycle of analysis paralysis, second-guessing every decision you make, then you are not alone!Join Moshe Amsel and Paul Epstein, an acclaimed leadership expert and two-time published author, as they discuss the art of making better and faster decisions. Paul's extensive background in reviving underperforming teams and driving growth in organizations gives him a unique perspective on purpose-driven leadership. He shares his insights and practical strategies for creating a resilient and high-performing culture through his books, The Power of Playing Offense and Better Decisions, Faster. Paul introduces the Head + Heart = Hands Equation as a decision-making process, urging individuals to consider both logical thoughts (head) and authentic feelings (heart) before taking action (hands). He emphasizes the importance of breaking free from indecision and the fear of outcomes by embracing imperfect action. By aligning the head and heart, listeners will learn how to make better decisions and unleash their potential for success in today's fast-paced world.Chapters:[00:00] Introduction[03:22] Becoming a Leadership Expert[09:12] Better Decisions Faster[14:05] The Decision-Making Formula[18:16] The Different Types of Yellows[30:00] Decision-Making with Others[33:09] Practicing Decision-MakingResources mentioned:Sign up for our FREE Training, The Thriving Law Firm CEO Revolution!Check out our Profit with Law YouTube channel!Connect with Paul Epstein: Website | Facebook | LinkedIn | Instagram | Twitter | YouTubeExplore Paul Epstein's consulting servicesBetter Decisions Faster: Unshakable Confidence When You Need It Most by Paul EpsteinThe Power of Playing Offense: A Leader's Playbook for Personal and Team Transformation by Paul EpsteinJoin our Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/lawfirmgrowthsummit/To request a show topic, recommend a guest or ask a question for the show, please send an email to info@dreambuilderfinancial.com.Connect with Moshe on:Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/moshe.amselLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mosheamsel/

Sep 14, 2023 • 56min
Organic Marketing Secrets: Boosting Visibility and Driving Traffic to Law Firm Websites with Paul Mackiewicz - 396
Send us a textShownotes can be found at https://www.profitwithlaw.com/396.Do you want to increase your law firm's revenue and engagement by building trust and emotional connections with your online audience? Discover the solution to achieve this desired outcome as our guest, Paul Mackiewicz, shares his expertise. Learn how to differentiate your firm and create a unique value proposition that fosters trust and emotional connections, ultimately leading to increased revenue and engagement. Unlock the potential of your online presence and see tangible results by implementing the strategies and insights shared by our knowledgeable guest.In this episode, you will be able to:Navigate through fear and embrace calculated risks to revolutionize your law firm marketing approach.Unravel the influence of community cognizance and personal relationships in facilitating marketing endeavors.Comprehend the pivotal role of transparency in stimulating revenue growth for your firm.Draw correlations between your eagerness to step out of comfort zones and the escalation of your firm's revenue.Uncover the benefits of embracing innovation and staying abreast with trending marketing strategies.Chapters:[00:00] Introduction[03:43] The Power of Unique Mechanisms in Law Firm Marketing[09:10] Naming the Unique Mechanism[12:49] Utilizing AI for Creative Ideas[17:13] AI as a Marketing Tool[25:53] Answer Engine Optimization (AEO)[31:54] Optimizing Content for Voice Search[33:18] The Power of FAQs[39:57] Organic vs. Paid Advertising[48:24] Embracing Fear in Marketing DecisionsResources mentioned:Check out our Profit with Law YouTube channel!Learn more about the Profit with Law Elite Coaching Program here. Connect with Paul Mackiewicz: Email | Facebook | LinkedIn | InstagramEpisode 362 - How to Manage Your Firm's Online Presence and Attract Your Ideal ClientsAnswer the PublicJoin our Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/lawfirmgrowthsummit/To request a show topic, recommend a guest or ask a question for the show, please send an email to info@dreambuilderfinancial.com.Connect with Moshe on:Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/moshe.amselLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mosheamsel/

Sep 7, 2023 • 47min
How a Fractional CFO Can Lead Your Business to Success with Danielle Hendon - 395
Send us a textShownotes can be found at https://www.profitwithlaw.com/395.In this podcast episode, Moshe Amsel and Danielle Hendon, owner of Four Corners CFO, discuss the importance of financial management for small businesses. They discuss when it's the right time to hire a fractional CFO, the ideal profit margin, the three profit levers, and the significance of budgets and cash flow. They provide actionable advice and strategies for law firm owners to improve their financial management and profitability.Chapters:[00:00] Introduction to Danielle Hendon[04:35] Transitioning from Corporate to Small Business [13:56] When to Consider a Fractional CFO [19:09] Using Profit First mindset[22:52] Setting Profit Margins[28:49] Three Profit Levers [38:46] Budgeting and Cash Flow for Business Owners[42:44] Danielle’s Parting Piece of AdviceResources mentioned:Check out our Profit with Law YouTube channel!Learn more about the Profit with Law Elite Coaching Program here. Connect with Danielle Hendon: Website | Facebook | Instagram | LinkedInEpisode 390 - From 0 to 200 Employees The Ultimate Guide to Successful Law Firm Growth with Luis Raul Scott JrEpisode 393 - The 3 Most Effective Strategies for Maximizing Profit in Your Business with Rocky LalvaniFour Corners CFOProfit FirstJoin our Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/lawfirmgrowthsummit/To request a show topic, recommend a guest or ask a question for the show, please send an email to info@dreambuilderfinancial.com.Connect with Moshe on:Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/moshe.amselLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mosheamsel/