
Nobody Told Me!
(Apple Podcast's Best of 2018) When mother-daughter duo Jan Black and Laura Owens first conceptualized their two-generational talk show, nobody told them they’d snag the title of #1 self-help podcast for months on end! But that’s exactly what they’ve done, delving into topics as far-flung as network building, the importance of failure, finding hope after being kidnapped, and how the principles of brain surgery can help us work through everyday problems. Featuring interviews with extraordinary individuals, Nobody Told Me! shines light on the shared human experiences that bring us together, and the challenges that serve as catalysts for our greatest growth. Nobody Told Me! combines Jan’s impressive broadcast journalism background with Laura’s unique, millennial perspective. Driven by a genuine desire to educate and empower, their pioneering platform gives insight into the strategies and secrets of people in all walks of life. Equal parts information and inspiration, Nobody Told Me! brings a personal touch to the interview process. Together, Jan and Laura are asking the questions that help their listeners get through life’s toughest times.
Latest episodes

May 24, 2023 • 32min
Dr. Ed Tronick & Dr. Claudia Gold: ...the power of discord
Most relationships have their ups and downs, whether they’re between family members, friends or co-workers. Most of us don’t like the down times because it’s uncomfortable to be feeling angry or disconnected from those we care about. However, our guests, clinical psychologist Dr. Ed Tronick and pediatrician Dr. Claudia Gold, say the conflicts in relationships are the keys to better relationships. Doctors Tronick and Gold are the authors of the book, "The Power of Discord: Why the Ups and Downs of Relationships are the Secret to Building Intimacy, Resilience, and Trust". Their website is https://thepowerofdiscord.com/ Our sponsor, Green Chef, is a CCOF-certified meal kit company that makes eating well easy with plans to fit every lifestyle. Whether you’re Keto, Paleo, Vegan, Vegetarian, Gluten-Free, or just looking to eat more balanced meals, Green Chef offers a range of recipes to suit your preferences. Fill up with Protein Packed, Green Chef’s newest collection of recipes fit for a high-protein dietary preference. Choose from three weekly menu items, each including at least 40 grams of protein per serving. You can expect a variety of satisfying and flavorful recipes like Greek Chicken Salad with Mint Olive Tapenade, Enchilada-Spiced Turkey Bowls and Almond-Crusted Barramundi. Cut down on meal prep with pre-portioned and prepped ingredients, including pre-measured sauces, spices and dressings. Go to GreenChef.com/nobody60 and use code nobody60 to get 60% off plus free shipping!

May 23, 2023 • 25min
Dr. Kelli Harding: ...That You Can Live Longer By Being Kind
Find out about a new way to take charge of your own happiness and health. Our guest, Dr. Kelli Harding, says love, friendship, community, purpose and our environment can have a far greater impact on our health than anything that happens in the doctor’s office. Dr. Harding is a Columbia University-trained, board certified psychiatrist who specializes in the interplay between mental and physical health. She’s the author of the book, "THE RABBIT EFFECT: Live Longer, Happier, and Healthier with the Groundbreaking Science of Kindness". Her website is https://www.kellihardingmd.com/ Our sponsor, Green Chef, is a CCOF-certified meal kit company that makes eating well easy with plans to fit every lifestyle. Whether you’re Keto, Paleo, Vegan, Vegetarian, Gluten-Free, or just looking to eat more balanced meals, Green Chef offers a range of recipes to suit your preferences. Fill up with Protein Packed, Green Chef’s newest collection of recipes fit for a high-protein dietary preference. Choose from three weekly menu items, each including at least 40 grams of protein per serving. You can expect a variety of satisfying and flavorful recipes like Greek Chicken Salad with Mint Olive Tapenade, Enchilada-Spiced Turkey Bowls and Almond-Crusted Barramundi. Cut down on meal prep with pre-portioned and prepped ingredients, including pre-measured sauces, spices and dressings. Go to GreenChef.com/nobody60 and use code nobody60 to get 60% off plus free shipping!

May 19, 2023 • 34min
Lucie Arnaz: ...take care of yourself, don’t burn yourself on both ends
Our very special guest on this episode is Lucie Arnaz, who was born into show business as the daughter of Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz. She’s performed on television, in movies, nightclubs and on Broadway. She shares some wonderful observations and stories with us. Her website is http://www.luciearnaz.com/ Our sponsor, Green Chef, is a CCOF-certified meal kit company that makes eating well easy with plans to fit every lifestyle. Whether you’re Keto, Paleo, Vegan, Vegetarian, Gluten-Free, or just looking to eat more balanced meals, Green Chef offers a range of recipes to suit your preferences. Fill up with Protein Packed, Green Chef’s newest collection of recipes fit for a high-protein dietary preference. Choose from three weekly menu items, each including at least 40 grams of protein per serving. You can expect a variety of satisfying and flavorful recipes like Greek Chicken Salad with Mint Olive Tapenade, Enchilada-Spiced Turkey Bowls and Almond-Crusted Barramundi. Cut down on meal prep with pre-portioned and prepped ingredients, including pre-measured sauces, spices and dressings. Go to GreenChef.com/nobody60 and use code nobody60 to get 60% off plus free shipping!

May 18, 2023 • 30min
Terri Cheney: ...that hiding a secret was worse than the secret itself
If you’ve struggled with mental health issues or if you care about someone who has, then you’ll want to hear what our guest on this episode, Terri Cheney, has to say. You may know Terri from her New York Times bestselling book, "Manic: A Memoir", which depicted her life as an elite entertainment attorney suffering from bipolar disorder. Terri’s latest book is called, "Modern Madness: An Owner’s Manual". It explores the struggles, stigmas, relationship dilemmas, treatments, and recovery techniques Terri and others have experienced in coping with mental health issues. Our sponsor, Green Chef, is a CCOF-certified meal kit company that makes eating well easy with plans to fit every lifestyle. Whether you’re Keto, Paleo, Vegan, Vegetarian, Gluten-Free, or just looking to eat more balanced meals, Green Chef offers a range of recipes to suit your preferences. Fill up with Protein Packed, Green Chef’s newest collection of recipes fit for a high-protein dietary preference. Choose from three weekly menu items, each including at least 40 grams of protein per serving. You can expect a variety of satisfying and flavorful recipes like Greek Chicken Salad with Mint Olive Tapenade, Enchilada-Spiced Turkey Bowls and Almond-Crusted Barramundi. Cut down on meal prep with pre-portioned and prepped ingredients, including pre-measured sauces, spices and dressings. Go to GreenChef.com/nobody60 and use code nobody60 to get 60% off plus free shipping!

May 18, 2023 • 36min
Lacy Crawford: ...the importance of finding the courage to tell your story
Our guest on this episode is Lacy Crawford, author of the book, "Notes On A Silencing: A Memoir". It’s the story of Lacy’s sexual assault as a teenager by two fellow students at the one of the top boarding schools in the country. The Washington Post calls the book, “A haunting exploration of the systemic ways assault victims are ignored.” Lacy's website is https://lacycrawford.com/ Our sponsor, Green Chef, is a CCOF-certified meal kit company that makes eating well easy with plans to fit every lifestyle. Whether you’re Keto, Paleo, Vegan, Vegetarian, Gluten-Free, or just looking to eat more balanced meals, Green Chef offers a range of recipes to suit your preferences. Fill up with Protein Packed, Green Chef’s newest collection of recipes fit for a high-protein dietary preference. Choose from three weekly menu items, each including at least 40 grams of protein per serving. You can expect a variety of satisfying and flavorful recipes like Greek Chicken Salad with Mint Olive Tapenade, Enchilada-Spiced Turkey Bowls and Almond-Crusted Barramundi. Cut down on meal prep with pre-portioned and prepped ingredients, including pre-measured sauces, spices and dressings. Go to GreenChef.com/nobody60 and use code nobody60 to get 60% off plus free shipping!

May 17, 2023 • 29min
Mitch Prinstein: ...about popularity
Popularity is the topic as we talk with Mitch Prinstein, author of "Popular: The Power of Likability in a Status-Obsessed World". Mitch and his research have been featured in The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, CNN, Time magazine, New York magazine, Newsweek, and many others. Our sponsor, Green Chef, is a CCOF-certified meal kit company that makes eating well easy with plans to fit every lifestyle. Whether you’re Keto, Paleo, Vegan, Vegetarian, Gluten-Free, or just looking to eat more balanced meals, Green Chef offers a range of recipes to suit your preferences. Fill up with Protein Packed, Green Chef’s newest collection of recipes fit for a high-protein dietary preference. Choose from three weekly menu items, each including at least 40 grams of protein per serving. You can expect a variety of satisfying and flavorful recipes like Greek Chicken Salad with Mint Olive Tapenade, Enchilada-Spiced Turkey Bowls and Almond-Crusted Barramundi. Cut down on meal prep with pre-portioned and prepped ingredients, including pre-measured sauces, spices and dressings. Go to GreenChef.com/nobody60 and use code nobody60 to get 60% off plus free shipping!

May 13, 2023 • 31min
Natasha Gregson Wagner: ...that I would learn from my mom, Natalie Wood, long after her death
As we approach Mother's Day, we want to share with you our conversation with actress, author and filmmaker Natasha Gregson Wagner. Natasha is the daughter of the late actress Natalie Wood and film producer Richard Gregson. She is the stepdaughter of actor Robert Wagner and the co-producer of the recent documentary called “Natalie Wood: What Remains Behind”. Natasha is also the author of the book, “More Than Love: An Intimate Portrait of My Mother, Natalie Wood.” We’re excited to tell you about another great product from our sponsor, Ritual. It's called Synbiotic+ and it’s a daily 3-in-1 clinically-studied prebiotic, probiotic, and postbiotic designed to help support a balanced gut microbiome. Ritual’s Synbiotic+ provides two of the world’s most clinically studied probiotic strains to support the relief of mild and occasional digestive discomforts, like bloating, gas, and diarrhea. Synbiotic+ and Ritual are here to celebrate, not hide, your insides. It’s time to listen to your gut! Ritual is offering our Nobody Told Me! listeners 10% off during your first 3 months. Visit ritual.com/NTM to start Ritual or add Synbiotic+ to your subscription today.

May 12, 2023 • 37min
Diane Barth: ...mother/daughter relationships
As we approach Mother's Day, we explore mother-daughter relationships. On this episode, we're joined by Diane Barth, a psychotherapist and the author of 'I Know How You Feel: The Joy and Heartbreak of Friendship in Women's Lives'. She writes the blog, 'Off the Couch' for Psychology Today. In addition, her articles have been published in the Clinical Social Work Journal, Psychoanalytic Dialogues, Psychoanalytic Psychology, and other professional journals. Her website is https://www.dianebarth.net/ We’re excited to tell you about another great product from our sponsor, Ritual. It's called Synbiotic+ and it’s a daily 3-in-1 clinically-studied prebiotic, probiotic, and postbiotic designed to help support a balanced gut microbiome. Ritual’s Synbiotic+ provides two of the world’s most clinically studied probiotic strains to support the relief of mild and occasional digestive discomforts, like bloating, gas, and diarrhea. Synbiotic+ and Ritual are here to celebrate, not hide, your insides. It’s time to listen to your gut! Ritual is offering our Nobody Told Me! listeners 10% off during your first 3 months. Visit ritual.com/NTM to start Ritual or add Synbiotic+ to your subscription today.

May 11, 2023 • 32min
Hope Edelman: ...that grieving your mother is a lifelong process
In the days leading up to Mother's Day, we've been focusing on mother-daughter relationships. One of the toughest things that can be faced by a girl or a woman of any age is the loss of her mother. Our guest, Hope Edelman, is an expert in the field of early mother loss and mother-daughter relationships. She's written extensively on those topics and is the author of "Motherless Daughters" and "Motherless Mothers", among others. You can learn more about Hope on her website: http://hopeedelman.com. We’re excited to tell you about another great product from our sponsor, Ritual. It's called Synbiotic+ and it’s a daily 3-in-1 clinically-studied prebiotic, probiotic, and postbiotic designed to help support a balanced gut microbiome. Ritual’s Synbiotic+ provides two of the world’s most clinically studied probiotic strains to support the relief of mild and occasional digestive discomforts, like bloating, gas, and diarrhea. Synbiotic+ and Ritual are here to celebrate, not hide, your insides. It’s time to listen to your gut! Ritual is offering our Nobody Told Me! listeners 10% off during your first 3 months. Visit ritual.com/NTM to start Ritual or add Synbiotic+ to your subscription today.

May 10, 2023 • 31min
Marisa Bardach Ramel: ...the mother-daughter bond continues long after death
In this week leading up to Mother's Day, we share one of our most touching episodes yet! As a mother-daughter duo, we were thrilled to talk with Marisa Bardach Ramel. Marisa and her mother, Sally Bardach, wrote "The Goodbye Diaries" together. It’s an honest, heartfelt, touching glimpse into the relationship between a mother and daughter, when the mother is diagnosed with terminal cancer. In the book, Marisa and her mother write alternating chapters voicing their individual fears, frustrations and connection to each other. The Goodbye Diaries offers an eye-opening look into both sides of a terminal diagnosis—the one who will leave and the one who will be left behind. We’re excited to tell you about another great product from our sponsor, Ritual. It's called Synbiotic+ and it’s a daily 3-in-1 clinically-studied prebiotic, probiotic, and postbiotic designed to help support a balanced gut microbiome. Ritual’s Synbiotic+ provides two of the world’s most clinically studied probiotic strains to support the relief of mild and occasional digestive discomforts, like bloating, gas, and diarrhea. Synbiotic+ and Ritual are here to celebrate, not hide, your insides. It’s time to listen to your gut! Ritual is offering our Nobody Told Me! listeners 10% off during your first 3 months. Visit ritual.com/NTM to start Ritual or add Synbiotic+ to your subscription today.