
Apple News In Conversation
Apple News In Conversation with Shumita Basu brings you interviews with some of the world’s best journalists and experts about the stories that impact our lives. Join us every week as we go behind the headlines.
Latest episodes

Jun 26, 2025 • 33min
What happens when private equity takes over your hospital, your house, and your job
In this engaging discussion, journalist Megan Greenwell, author of "Bad Company: Private Equity and the Death of the American Dream," sheds light on the often opaque world of private equity. She reveals how acquisitions can devastate communities, using poignant stories like that of a former Toys R Us employee. The episode also highlights grassroots efforts, like those in Riverton, Wyoming, where locals fight to reclaim healthcare services. Greenwell calls attention to the pressing need for transparency and regulatory reform in the private equity landscape.

Jun 19, 2025 • 28min
Inside the high-speed production of ‘F1 The Movie’
Joseph Kosinski, known for directing high-octane films like Top Gun: Maverick, and legendary producer Jerry Bruckheimer, discuss the making of F1: The Movie. They share insights into filming real F1 races for authenticity and the rigorous training actors underwent to drive Formula cars. The duo emphasizes the emotional storytelling inherent in motorsport and the thrill of high-speed racing. They hope the film inspires new fans and filmmakers, capturing the exhilarating essence of Formula 1 like never before.

Jun 12, 2025 • 27min
An FBI agent went undercover in America’s extremist groups. Here’s what he learned.
Scott Payne, a retired FBI agent, spent over two decades infiltrating dangerous extremist and criminal groups, including neo-Nazis and motorcycle gangs. He shares gripping accounts of the emotional toll his work took on him while navigating the dark world of hate. Payne exposes the alarming recruitment strategies of extremist groups and describes harrowing events, such as extremist hate camps. His insights stress the urgent need to understand and combat the growing threat of domestic extremism in America.

Jun 5, 2025 • 36min
Rebroadcast: How Taylor Swift changed the music industry forever
Rob Sheffield, a Rolling Stone journalist and author of 'Heartbreak Is the National Anthem,' discusses Taylor Swift's transformative influence on the music industry. He highlights her groundbreaking journey from country to pop, emphasizing her songwriting and empowering female artists. The conversation covers her recent reclaiming of master recordings and the emotional depth of songs like 'Dear John.' Sheffield also reflects on the astonishing success of the Eras Tour, showcasing Swift's unique bond with fans and her innovative storytelling techniques.

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May 29, 2025 • 27min
Why a 25-cent pill is being sold to cancer patients for nearly $1,000
David Armstrong, a ProPublica health-care reporter battling a rare blood cancer, dives into the shocking pricing of the cancer drug Revlimid. He reveals how this lifesaving medication, costing mere cents to produce, is sold to patients for nearly $1,000 per pill. Armstrong discusses the monopolistic tactics of pharmaceutical companies that keep prices high and access low. He also explores the troubling history of related drugs and the broader implications of America's drug pricing crisis, urging a need for reform in the healthcare system.

May 21, 2025 • 38min
How Joe Biden’s inner circle hid his cognitive decline
Jake Tapper, CNN anchor and co-author of 'Original Sin', teams up with Axios' White House correspondent Alex Thompson to unveil the concealed truth about Joe Biden's cognitive decline. They discuss how his inner circle masked serious health concerns amidst a looming re-election campaign. The two journalists reveal the turmoil within Biden's team following key debates, highlighting internal struggles and the need for media accountability. Their insights emphasize the importance of transparency in the health of public figures and its implications for democracy.

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May 15, 2025 • 33min
How toxic chemicals quietly took over our lives
Mariah Blake, an investigative journalist and author of 'They Poisoned the World', dives into the alarming world of PFAS, or forever chemicals, and their pervasive presence in our lives. She reveals their links to serious health issues like cancer and infertility, emphasizing the urgent need for awareness and activism. Blake also shares inspiring stories of grassroots movements pushing against these toxic substances and offers practical tips for reducing exposure in our daily lives. A call to action for informed living in a chemically laden world!

May 8, 2025 • 30min
Rebroadcast: They killed 24 people, including children. No one was ever held responsible.
In this gripping discussion, Madeleine Baran, host and lead reporter of the Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative podcast In the Dark, delves into the Haditha massacre, where U.S. Marines killed 24 Iraqi civilians in 2005. She reveals the chaotic realities surrounding the incident and the failures of military justice in holding anyone accountable. Baran highlights the chilling dehumanization of victims during trials and portrays the profound emotional trauma experienced by survivors. The podcast calls for greater transparency and accountability in military actions.

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May 1, 2025 • 26min
How one small town battled a deepfake-porn criminal
Olivia Carville and Margi Murphy, investigative reporters from Bloomberg, delve into a disturbing deepfake-porn scandal affecting young women in Levittown, New York. They discuss the emotional trauma experienced by the victims and highlight the shortcomings of law enforcement in dealing with such digital crimes. The conversation explores the urgent need for legal reforms, particularly the controversial Take It Down Act, which aims to combat non-consensual digital content. Their insights reveal the dark intricacies of generative AI and its potential hazards in society.

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Apr 24, 2025 • 39min
They work full-time jobs. Why are they homeless?
Millions of Americans cannot afford housing despite working full-time jobs. They live in cars, shelters, or extended-stay hotels and often don’t qualify for assistance programs. Journalist and anthropologist Brian Goldstone follows five Atlanta families who are stuck in this cycle in his new book, There Is No Place for Us: Working and Homeless in America. Goldstone reveals how these parents and children are prevented from securing housing by steep rents, red tape, and predatory schemes. He spoke with Apple News In Conversation host Shumita Basu about how this crisis arose and ways to address it. Listen to the full interview on Apple Podcasts.
Correction: A previous version of this episode misstated when the federal minimum wage was last raised. We have removed that line from the interview. The last federal minimum-wage raise was in 2009, not the 1990s.