

That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast
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Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun!
Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!
That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!
That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
Episodes
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Oct 19, 2021 • 1h 60min
Loophole w/ Joel de la Fuente
Liza and Kara cover “Loophole” (Season 8, Episode 13), the Willowbrook State School abuse scandal, and talk with TARU Tech Morales, aka actor Joel de la Fuente.SOURCES:NY Times - 1NY Times - 2NY Times - 3NY Times - 4NY Times - 5TimelineNPRWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:The Arc - https://thearc.org/Next week’s episode will be “Chameleon” (Season 4, Episode 1). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Oct 12, 2021 • 1h 41min
Holden's Manifesto w/ John Karna
This week, Kara and Liza talk “Holden’s Manifesto” (Season 16, Episode 4), the 2014 Isla Vista killings committed by Elliot Rodger, and interview Holden himself, actor John Karna. SOURCES:NY TimesCNNWikipediaChicago TribuneLA Times - 1LA Times - 2NoozhawkThe CutSydney Morning HeraldBBCABC NewsWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: "The Rage of the Incels" by Jia Tolentino in The New Yorkerhttps://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/the-rage-of-the-incelsNext week’s episode will be “Loophole” (Season 8, Episode 13). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Oct 5, 2021 • 1h 51min
Downloaded Child w/ Meghann Fahy
On today’s episode, Liza and Kara cover “Downloaded Child” (Season 15, Episode 19), the story of Amy Unknown, and talk with the episode's lead actress, Meghann Fahy. SOURCES:Lincoln Journal StarWashington PostNY TimesWikipedia - 1Wikipedia - 2SlateTyler Morning TelegraphWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:The FBI’s Child Pornography Victim Assistance (CPVA) Programhttps://www.fbi.gov/resources/victim-services/cpvaNext week’s episode will be “Holden’s Manifesto” (Season 16, Episode 4). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sep 28, 2021 • 2h 2min
Pretend w/ Michael Welch
Kara and Liza talk “Pretend” (Season 8, Episode 21), the fascinating case of Treva Throneberry, and interview the charming Michael Welch.SOURCES:ABC NewsThe OlympianTexas MonthlyWikipediaWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Together We Rise - https://www.togetherwerise.org/Next week’s episode will be “Downloaded Child” (Season 15, Episode 19). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sep 21, 2021 • 1h 35min
The Book of Esther w/ Rebekah Kennedy
This week, Liza and Kara cover SVU’s “The Book of Esther” (Season 19, Episode 20), the Turpin Family, and talk with Esther herself, actress Rebekah Kennedy. SOURCES:NY Times - 1NY Times - 2NY Times - 3NY Times - 4Washington Post60 Minutes AustraliaWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Journey Free - https://journeyfree.org/Next week’s episode will be “Pretend” (Season 8, Episode 21). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sep 14, 2021 • 1h 40min
Mother w/ Jon Abrahams
This episode covers “Mother” (Season 5, Episode 3), the case of Margaret Bean-Bayog, and Kara and Liza talk with the episode’s guest star, Jon Abrahams.SOURCES:NY Times - 1NY Times - 2Boston MagazineGreensboro.comThe Harvard Crimson - 1The Harvard Crimson - 2NewsweekWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Therapy Exploitation Link Line - https://therapyabuse.org/Next week’s episode will be “The Book of Esther” (Season 19, Episode 20). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sep 7, 2021 • 1h 48min
Signature w/ Erika Christensen
This episode covers “Signature” (Season 9, Episode 12), the case of the Toy-Box Killer, and Liza and Kara interview a true star and the lead of this episode, Erika Christensen. SOURCES:NY Times - 1NY Times - 2WikipediaOxygenAll That’s InterestingWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:“Cries in the Desert: The Shocking True Story of a Sadistic Torturer” by John Glatthttps://www.amazon.com/Cries-Desert-Shocking-Sadistic-Torturer-ebook/dp/B003J564ZINext week’s episode will be “Mother” (Season 5, Episode 3). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Aug 31, 2021 • 1h 27min
Learning Curve w/ Ernest Waddell
Liza and Kara cover SVU’s “Learning Curve” (Season 13, Episode 21), the Latin King Goonies, and interview Fin’s son, Ken Randall, aka actor Ernest Waddell.SOURCES:The Daily BeastNY Times - 1NY Times - 2ABC NewsGothamistWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:The Trevor Project - https://www.thetrevorproject.org/Next week’s episode will be “Signature” (Season 9, Episode 12). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Aug 24, 2021 • 1h 48min
Patrimonial Burden w/ Geneva Carr
On today’s episode, Kara and Liza cover “Patrimonial Burden” (Season 17, Episode 7), the Duggar family, and talk with delightful actress, Geneva Carr.SOURCES:USA TodayImgurDefamerIn Touch WeeklyUS MagazineReutersFox NewsWikipedia - 1Wikipedia - 2WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Recovering from Religion - https://www.recoveringfromreligion.org/Next week’s episode will be “Learning Curve” (Season 13, Episode 21). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Aug 17, 2021 • 1h 39min
Dissonant Voices w/ Hana Hayes
This week, Kara and Liza recap “Dissonant Voices” (Season 15, Episode 7), the Jimmy Savile sexual abuse scandal, and chat with the dazzling Hana Hayes. SOURCES:The GuardianWashington PostBBCNY Times - 1NY Times - 2DeadlineABC News WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:RAINN - https://www.rainn.org/Next week’s episode will be “Patrimonial Burden” (Season 17, Episode 7). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.