

That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast
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Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun!
Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!
That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!
That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
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Aug 10, 2021 • 1h 46min
Charisma w/ Jeff Kober
Kara and Liza recap “Charisma” (Season 6, Episode 7), the crimes of Marcus Wesson, and interview the man who has haunted their dreams in the role of Abraham, actor Jeff Kober.SOURCES:Your Central ValleyFilm DailyABC 30NY TimesNY Daily NewsDeLani R. BartletteABC NewsWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:“The Wesson Vampire Clan” - The podcast Cults by Parcasthttps://open.spotify.com/episode/44s6YAldA73AdSX2bHs8zM?si=JKmEtJ9_RniLiNS-nSyBZg&dl_branch=1Next week’s episode will be “Dissonant Voices” (Season 15, Episode 7). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Aug 3, 2021 • 1h 46min
Intimidation Game w/ Mouzam Makkar
Today covers SVU’s “Intimidation Game” (Season 16, Episode 14), the Gamergate controversy, the story of Anita Sarkeesian, and Kara and Liza talk with the episode’s lead, Mouzam Makkar. SOURCES:Washington PostCosmopolitanFeminist Frequency IGNNY TimesWikipediaWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Feminist Frequency - https://feministfrequency.com/Next week’s episode will be “Charisma” (Season 6, Episode 7). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jul 27, 2021 • 1h 55min
Pique w/ Chad Lowe
Liza and Kara take listeners through the classic SVU episode “Pique”, tell the story of Barbara and Tony Baekeland, and talk with actor and director, Chad Lowe. SOURCES:New York Daily NewsHistoryWikipediaCrime & Investigation WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Survivors of Incest Anonymous - https://siawso.org/Next week’s episode will be “Intimidation Game” (Season 16, Episode 14). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jul 20, 2021 • 1h 36min
Rooftop w/ Neal Baer
This episode, Kara and Liza recap “Rooftop” (Season 3, Episode 4), the story of Nushawn Williams, and talk with returning guest and SVU superstar, Neal Baer. SOURCES:The Center for HIV Law and PolicyNY Times - 1NY Times - 2NY Times - 3Wikipedia - 1Wikipedia - 2WIVB 4South Coast TodayWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:(1) Black AIDS Institute (BAI) - https://blackaids.org/(2) “Notorious H.I.V.: The Media Spectacle of Nushawn Williams” by Thomas ShevoryNext week’s episode will be “Pique” (Season 2, Episode 20). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jul 13, 2021 • 1h 52min
Rapist Anonymous w/ Thomas Sadoski
Today’s episode covers “Rapist Anonymous” (Season 15, Episode 9), Jodi Arias, and Kara and Liza chat with the very talented Thomas Sadoski. SOURCES:20/20 - “Gone in a Flash” (Hulu - Season 42, Episode 17)HuffPostABC NewsAssociated Press NewsCNNCBS NewsWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Women For Sobriety - https://womenforsobriety.org/Next week’s episode will be “Rooftop” (Season 3, Episode 4). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jul 6, 2021 • 1h 33min
I Deserve Some Loving Too w/ Lee Hubilla
Kara and Liza recap the SVU episode “I Deserve Some Loving Too” (Season 21, Episode 14), the cases of John Jacobs Olivas and Wilfredo Rodriguez, and talk with actress Lee Hubilla. SOURCES:The IndependentInmate AidBuzzfeed News - 1Buzzfeed News - 2Associated Press NewsWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:American Immigration Council - https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/Next week’s episode will be “Rapist Anonymous” (Season 15, Episode 9). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jun 29, 2021 • 1h 26min
Head w/ James Urbaniak
This week, Kara and Liza take listeners through “Head” (Season 5, Episode 25), the true story it’s based on, and interview the episode’s red herring, James Urbaniak. SOURCES:New ScientistThe AtlanticThe IndependentBBC NewsLegal AffairsWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:MaleSurvivor - https://malesurvivor.org/Next week’s episode will be “I Deserve Some Loving Too” (Season 21, Episode 14). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jun 22, 2021 • 1h 41min
Smut w/ Kelly Hu
This episode, Kara and Liza cover “Smut” (Season 10, Episode 10), the Andrew Luster case, and talk with the multi-talented actress, Kelly Hu. SOURCES:The New York Times - 1The New York Times - 2Los Angeles TimesWikipedia - 1Wikipedia - 2Study.comNCBISnopesWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG GO:NO MORE - https://nomore.org/Next week’s episode will be “Head” (Season 5, Episode 25). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jun 15, 2021 • 1h 39min
Collateral Damages w/ Samantha Corbin-Miller
Today’s episode covers “Collateral Damages” (Season 17, Episode 15), Subway’s Jared Fogle, and Liza and Kara interview SVU writer and co-executive producer, Samantha Corbin-Miller. SOURCES:The Indianapolis StarABC NewsWikipediaDaily BeastLA TimesNew York Daily NewsNBC New YorkBusiness InsiderWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:"The Internet Is Overrun With Images of Child Sexual Abuse. What Went Wrong?" by Michael H. Keller and Gabriel J.X. Dancehttps://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/09/28/us/child-sex-abuse.html?mtrref=www.google.com&assetType=REGIWALLNext week’s episode will be “Smut” (Season 10, Episode 10). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jun 8, 2021 • 1h 48min
Lessons Learned w/ Anthony Rapp
Kara and Liza cover “Lessons Learned” (Season 14, Episode 8), The Horace Mann School sex abuse scandal, and talk with star of stage and screen, Anthony Rapp. SOURCES:The New York Times - 1The New York Times - 2WikipediaThe AtlanticThe New YorkerUSA TodayWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:“The Horace Mann School’s Secret History of Sexual Abuse” by Amos Kamilhttps://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/10/magazine/the-horace-mann-schools-secret-history-of-sexual-abuse.htmlNext week’s episode will be “Collateral Damages” (Season 17, Episode 15). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.