

That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast
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Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun!
Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!
That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!
That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
Episodes
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Dec 28, 2021 • 1h 50min
Hell's Kitchen w/ Sara Bues
Today, Liza and Kara discuss “Hell’s Kitchen” (Season 20, Episode 8), the Mario Batali and Brett Kavanaugh allegations, and chat with actor Sara Bues. SOURCES:Axios - 1Axios - 2Wikipedia - 1Wikipedia - 2The New YorkerLA TimesHarvard Business ReviewEater - 1Eater - 2Newsweek ABC NewsFox LexingtonWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Hollaback! - https://www.ihollaback.org/Next week’s episode will be “Name” (Season 7, Episode 7). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dec 21, 2021 • 2h 16min
Presumed Guilty w/ Denis O'Hare
In honor of the holiday season, Kara and Liza recap an SVU Christmas episode “Presumed Guilty” (Season 14, Episode 10), talk about the long history of child abuse in the Catholic Church, and interview legendary character actor Denis O’Hare. SOURCES:CNNBBCNY Times - 1NY Times - 2NY Times - 3NY Times - 4NY Times - 5NY Times - 6NY Times - 7NY Times - 8NY Times - 9NY Times - 10Herman LawProPublicaUSA TodayNY PostThe Limited TimesCourthouse NewsWashington PostNewcastle HeraldWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests (SNAP) - https://www.snapnetwork.org/Next week’s episode will be “Hell’s Kitchen” (Season 20, Episode 8). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dec 14, 2021 • 1h 49min
Pathological w/ Erin Wilhelmi
This week, Liza and Kara talk “Pathological” (Season 19, Episode 10), the story of Gypsy Rose and Dee Dee Blanchard, and interview the episode’s lead, Erin Wilhelmi. SOURCES:Mommy Dead and Dearest - HBOBiographyPeopleBuzzfeed NewsWikipediaWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Mommy Dead and Dearest (HBO) - https://www.hbo.com/documentaries/mommy-dead-and-dearestNext week’s episode will be “Presumed Guilty” (Season 14, Episode 10). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dec 7, 2021 • 2h 3min
Pure w/ Karen Kilgariff
Today Kara and Liza celebrate the one year anniversary of That’s Messed Up! They cover the SVU episode “Pure” (Season 6, Episode 18), the case of Bobbie Jo Stinnett, and interview SVU superfan Karen Kilgariff. SOURCES:KMBC NBC News The SunWikipedia Topeka Capital-JournalBBC WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Cornell Center on the Death Penalty Worldwide - https://deathpenaltyworldwide.org/Next week’s episode will be “Pathological” (Season 19, Episode 10). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Nov 30, 2021 • 1h 25min
Poison w/ Tom Skerritt
Today, Kara and Liza recap “Poison” (Season 5, Episode 24), the story of Patricia Stallings, and interview legendary actor, Tom Skerritt.SOURCES:Unsolved MysteriesPeopleWikipediaWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Innocence Project - https://innocenceproject.orgNext week’s episode will be “Pure” (Season 6, Episode 18). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Nov 23, 2021 • 1h 55min
Scavenger w/ Elizabeth Franz
Liza and Kara cover SVU’s “Scavenger” (Season 6, Episode 4), the BTK Killer, and interview Tony-winning character actor, Elizabeth Franz.SOURCES:Biography - 1Biography - 2The Wichita EagleWikipediaABC NewsA&ECNNUSA TodayThe SunRolling StoneWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:“Confessions of a Serial Killer: The Untold Story of Dennis Rader, the BTK Killer” by Katherine Ramsland https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/29464589-confession-of-a-serial-killerNext week’s episode will be “Poison” (Season 5, Episode 24). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Nov 16, 2021 • 1h 45min
Witness w/ Saidah Arrika Ekulona
On today’s episode, Kara and Liza talk “Witness” (Season 11, Episode 16) and the atrocities against women in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, plus an interview with actress Saidah Arrika Ekulona, who plays one of SVU’s most powerful characters, Nardalee Ula. SOURCES:TimeHuffpostJSTOREnough ProjectBBCThe GuardianWikipediaWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Women for Women International - https://www.womenforwomen.org/where-we-work/democratic-republic-congoNext week’s episode will be “Scavenger” (Season 6, Episode 4). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Nov 9, 2021 • 1h 46min
Imprisoned Lives w/ Agatha Nowicki
This week, Kara and Liza talk “Imprisoned Lives” (Season 15, Episode 2), the heinous crimes of Ariel Castro, and interview SVU two-timer, Agatha Nowicki. SOURCES:NY Times - 1NY Times - 2NY Times - 3NY Times - 4NY Times - 5NY Times - 6NY Times - 7News 5 ClevelandABC News - 1ABC News - 2Lilyroselee.comA&EPeopleCleveland 19 NewsNZ HeraldCNNWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Cleveland Missing - https://clevelandmissing.org/Next week’s episode will be “Witness” (Season 11, Episode 16). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Nov 2, 2021 • 1h 27min
Taboo w/ Schuyler Fisk
Today’s episode recaps “Taboo” (Season 7, Episode 14), the story of Holly Ashcraft, and Liza and Kara talk with the extremely talented Schuyler Fisk.SOURCES:NBC NewsLA TimesWhittier Daily NewsDaily TrojanCBS Los AngelesMissoulianWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Planned Parenthood - https://www.plannedparenthood.org/Next week’s episode will be “Imprisoned Lives” (Season 15, Episode 2). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Oct 26, 2021 • 1h 54min
Chameleon w/ Sharon Lawrence
Today, Kara and Liza cover “Chameleon” (Season 4, Episode 1), serial killer Aileen Wuornos, and talk with the chameleon herself, Sharon Lawrence. SOURCES:NY Times - 1NY Times -2Jacksonville.comDignity: A Journal of Analysis of Exploitation and ViolenceMs. Magazine“Aileen: Life and Death of a Serial Killer” documentaryWikipediaWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Her Whole Truth - https://www.instagram.com/herwholetruth/Next week’s episode will be “Taboo” (Season 7, Episode 14). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.