

That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast
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Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun!
Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!
That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!
That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
Episodes
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Feb 15, 2022 • 2h 12min
Streetwise w/ Helen Shaver
Today, Liza and Kara get into the SVU episode, “Streetwise” (Season 9, Episode 11), tackle the Manson Family murders, and sit down with esteemed actor and director, Helen Shaver.SOURCES:Washington Post - 1Washington Post - 2VoxBritannicaNY Times Wikipedia - 1Wikipedia - 2WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:All God’s Children By Rene Denfeld - https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/98057 Next week’s episode will be “Scourge” (Season 2, Episode 21). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Feb 8, 2022 • 2h 6min
Justice w/ Daniel Sunjata
On this week’s episode, Kara and Liza talk SVU’s “Justice” (Season 3, Episode 19), unpack the assassination of Judge John H. Wood, and chat with Burt Trevor himself, the lovely Daniel Sunjata.SOURCES:My San Antonio - 1My San Antonio - 2KENS 5Washington Post - 1Washington Post - 2NY Times - 1NY Times - 2NY Times - 3NY Times - 4News 4 San AntonioThe GuardianUNILADOxygenABC NewsEl Paso TimesWikipediaWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:AACAP - Trauma and Child Abuse Resource Center - https://www.aacap.org/aacap/Families_and_Youth/Resource_Centers/Child_Abuse_Resource_Center/Home.aspx Next week’s episode will be “Streetwise” (Season 9, Episode 11). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Feb 1, 2022 • 2h 38min
Tragedy w/ Kellie Martin
This week, Liza and Kara dive into SVU’s “Tragedy” (Season 5, Episode 1), discuss the murder of Laci Peterson, and sit down with legendary actor, Kellie Martin.SOURCES:The Murder of Laci PetersonNY Times - 1NY Times - 2CNNRolling StoneAltaABC NewsModesto Bee WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:A Deadly Game: The Untold Story of the Scott Peterson Investigation - https://www.goodreads.com/book/690429/get_a_copy Next week’s episode will be “Justice” (Season 3, Episode 19). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jan 25, 2022 • 1h 57min
Producer's Backend w/ Stevie Lynn Jones
Today, Kara and Liza discuss the SVU episode, “Producer’s Backend” (Season 16, Episode 3), the controversies around Bryan Singer and Dan Schneider, and chat with the lovely Stevie Lynn Jones. SOURCES:The AtlanticWikipediaRolling StoneHollywood ReporterVariety - 1Variety - 2LA Times WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:The Trevor Project - https://www.thetrevorproject.org/ Next week’s episode will be “Tragedy” (Season 5, Episode 1). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jan 18, 2022 • 2h 3min
Blood Brothers w/ Judy Reyes
Liza and Kara cover SVU’s “Blood Brothers” (Season 13, Episode 3), the background of the Arnold Schwarzenegger affair, and chat with the talented Judy Reyes. SOURCES:LA Times - 1LA Times - 2NY Daily NewsWikipediaHello!The SunSydney Morning Harold WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:North American Council on Adoptable Children - https://nacac.org/ Next week’s episode will be “Producer’s Backend” (Season 16, Episode 3). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jan 11, 2022 • 1h 51min
One More Tale of Two Victims w/ Johnny Pemberton
In this week’s episode, Kara and Liza break down the SVU episode “One More Tale of Two Victims (Season 23, Episode 4), the case of Trevor Lawler, and interview actor (and friend!) Johnny Pemberton.SOURCES:BBC - 1BBC - 2IndependentDaily MailManchester Evening NewsWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:RAINN - https://www.rainn.org/Next week’s episode will be “Blood Brothers” (Season 13, Episode 3). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jan 4, 2022 • 1h 43min
Name w/ Paula Garcés
This week, Liza and Kara break down “Name” (Season 7, Episode 7), the mysterious disappearances of “The Boy in the Box” and “The Clinton Avenue Five,” and interview the multi-talented Paula Garcés. SOURCES:NY Times Philadelphia InquirerNJ 101.5CBS New YorkNJ.com - 1NJ.com - 2NJ.com - 3BlackHistory.comCrime ReadsWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Cold Case Foundation - https://www.coldcasefoundation.org/ Next week’s episode will be “One More Tale of Two Victims” (Season 23, Episode 4). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dec 28, 2021 • 1h 50min
Hell's Kitchen w/ Sara Bues
Today, Liza and Kara discuss “Hell’s Kitchen” (Season 20, Episode 8), the Mario Batali and Brett Kavanaugh allegations, and chat with actor Sara Bues. SOURCES:Axios - 1Axios - 2Wikipedia - 1Wikipedia - 2The New YorkerLA TimesHarvard Business ReviewEater - 1Eater - 2Newsweek ABC NewsFox LexingtonWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Hollaback! - https://www.ihollaback.org/Next week’s episode will be “Name” (Season 7, Episode 7). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dec 21, 2021 • 2h 16min
Presumed Guilty w/ Denis O'Hare
In honor of the holiday season, Kara and Liza recap an SVU Christmas episode “Presumed Guilty” (Season 14, Episode 10), talk about the long history of child abuse in the Catholic Church, and interview legendary character actor Denis O’Hare. SOURCES:CNNBBCNY Times - 1NY Times - 2NY Times - 3NY Times - 4NY Times - 5NY Times - 6NY Times - 7NY Times - 8NY Times - 9NY Times - 10Herman LawProPublicaUSA TodayNY PostThe Limited TimesCourthouse NewsWashington PostNewcastle HeraldWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests (SNAP) - https://www.snapnetwork.org/Next week’s episode will be “Hell’s Kitchen” (Season 20, Episode 8). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dec 14, 2021 • 1h 49min
Pathological w/ Erin Wilhelmi
This week, Liza and Kara talk “Pathological” (Season 19, Episode 10), the story of Gypsy Rose and Dee Dee Blanchard, and interview the episode’s lead, Erin Wilhelmi. SOURCES:Mommy Dead and Dearest - HBOBiographyPeopleBuzzfeed NewsWikipediaWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Mommy Dead and Dearest (HBO) - https://www.hbo.com/documentaries/mommy-dead-and-dearestNext week’s episode will be “Presumed Guilty” (Season 14, Episode 10). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.