

That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast
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Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun!
Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!
That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!
That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
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Mar 28, 2023 • 2h 15min
Unholiest Alliance w/ Robert John Burke
On this week’s episode Kara and Liza recap the second half of a two-parter with “Unholiest Alliance” (Season 17, Episode 18), they dive into the horrific true crime cover-up behind the murder of Sister Cathy Cesnik, and they have a moving conversation with the magnificent Robert John Burke (Rescue Me, Wakanda Forever).SOURCES:Netflix - The KeepersNew York Post 1New York Post 2New York Daily NewsDaily MailWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Survivors Network of those Abused by Priestshttps://www.snapnetwork.org/Next week’s episode will be “Haystack” (Season 8, Episode 15). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mar 21, 2023 • 1h 49min
Manhattan Transfer w/ Abigail Savage
Today Kara and Liza discuss the first episode of a two-parter, “Manhattan Transfer” (Season 17, Episode 17). They also analyze the pivotal work of the undercover Catholic nun organization Talitha Kum and have a great convo with actor Abigail Savage (Orange Is the New Black).SOURCES:Huffington PostTalithaKum.info 1TalithaKum.info 2NBC NewsYouTube - Currents NewsMs. MagazineCatholic News AgencyThe New York TimesWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Talitha Kumhttps://www.talithakum.info/enNext week’s episode will be “Unholiest Alliance” (Season 17, Episode 18). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mar 14, 2023 • 1h 57min
Poisoned Motive w/ Jessica Camacho
This week Liza and Kara cover the episode “Poisoned Motive” (Season 14, Episode 22), explore the unsettling Christopher Dorner shootings and manhunt, and speak to the effervescent Jessica Camacho (The Flash, Watchmen).SOURCES:Los Angeles Times 1Los Angeles Times 2Wikipedia - Christopher Dorner shootings and manhuntPolice 1Cornell LawNPRWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Cohen Veterans Networkhttps://www.cohenveteransnetwork.org/Next week’s episode will be “Manhattan Transfer” (Season 17, Episode 17). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mar 7, 2023 • 2h 5min
Pattern Seventeen w/ Josh Pais
In this episode, Liza and Kara recap “Pattern Seventeen” (Season 16, Episode 9), discuss the horrific crimes of Charles William Davis, Jr., and chat with the magnificent Josh Pais (Funny Pages, Ray Donovan).SOURCES:Wikipedia - Charles William DavisThe Washington PostReno Evening GazetteThe Baltimore SunJustia US LawCriminalminds.fandom.comMurderpediaWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:https://www.endthebacklog.org/ Next week’s episode will be “Poisoned Motive” (Season 14, Episode 22). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Feb 28, 2023 • 2h 14min
Chasing Theo w/ Rachelle Lefevre
Today Kara and Liza cover the episode “Chasing Theo” (Season 18, Episode 8), analyze both the disappearance of Melissa Brannen and the Goldman child abduction case, and have a great convo with Rachelle Lefevre (Twilight, Under the Dome).SOURCES:The Washington Post 1The Washington Post 2The New York Times 1 The New York Times 2 The New York Times 3 The New York Times 4 The New York Times 5 The New York Times 6 The New York Times 7TodayNaples Daily NewsHomefacts: Neighborhood Information Missingkids.orgForensic Files NowWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:‘Father & Son Helped Create a Law to Bring Abducted Kids Back to the U.S.’ from Tamron Hall Showhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_w2y1d_ph4Next week’s episodes will be “Pattern Seventeen” (Season 16, Episodes 9). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Feb 24, 2023 • 11min
BONUS: To Munch, Remembering Richard Belzer
On this special bonus episode, Kara and Liza take a few moments to remember the life and work of Richard Belzer and his portrayal of the legendary character John Munch. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Feb 21, 2023 • 1h 49min
The Undiscovered Country w/ Joe Tapper
In this episode, Liza and Kara recap “The Undiscovered Country” (Season 19, Episode 13), discuss the devastating Charlie Gard case, and speak to the delightful Joe Tapper.SOURCES:Wikipedia - Charlie Gard caseThe New York TimesThe IndependentPeopleReutersWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:‘When Doctors and Parents Don’t Agree: The story of Charlie Gard’ by Natasha Hammond-Browninghttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5715039/Next week’s episode will be “Chasing Theo” (Season 18, Episode 8). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Feb 14, 2023 • 2h 3min
Turn Me on Take Me Private w/ Alex Brightman & Eva Noblezada
On today’s episode Liza and Kara recap the creepy “Turn Me on Take Me Private” (Season 22, Episode 5) and discuss the frustrating story of former NYC paramedic Lauren Caitlyn Kwei. Plus, this episode has TWO incredible interviews - Broadway darlings Alex Brightman (Beetlejuice) and Eva Noblezada (Miss Saigon).SOURCES:New York PostYahooRolling StoneWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:‘Cam’https://www.netflix.com/title/80177400?source=35‘Camgirl’https://bookshop.org/p/books/camgirl-isa-mazzei/10109904Next week’s episode will be “The Undiscovered Country” (Season 19, Episode 13). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Feb 7, 2023 • 2h 2min
Contrapasso w/ Kathleen Munroe
Today Kara and Liza cover the episode “Contrapasso” (Season 19, Episode 3), discuss the disturbing Sean Shaynak case, and speak to the amazingly talented actor Kathleen Munroe (FBI).SOURCES:New York Magazine 1New York Magazine 2The New York Times 1The New York Times 2The New York Times 3ABC7 New YorkSpectrum NewsThe Daily MailJezebelNew York PostHomefacts.comWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:‘Sexual Misconduct In The Classroom: Everything You Need to Know’https://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/sexual-misconduct-in-the-classroom-everything-you-need-to-know/Next week’s episode will be “Turn Me on Take Me Private” (Season 22, Episode 5). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jan 31, 2023 • 2h 1min
Shaken w/ Beverly D'Angelo
Today Kara and Liza cover the episode “Shaken” (Season 5, Episode 10), look into the history of “Shaken Baby Syndrome” and the Louise Woodward case, plus have a stirring conversation with the queen, the legend, Beverly D'Angelo.SOURCES:The New York Times 1The New York Times 2The New York Times 3The New York Times 4The New York Times 5The New York Times 6The New York Times 7Publications.aap.orgThe Washington Post 1The Washington Post 2The Washington Post 3The Washington Post 4Northwestern.eduThe Star DemocratMyeasternshoremd.comThe Daily MailYahooReason.comCleveland ClinicWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Parent's Resources - Shaken Baby Syndromehttps://www.childhelp.org/parent-resources/shaken-baby-syndrome/Next week’s episode will be “Contrapasso” (Season 19, Episode 3). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.