
That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast
Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun!
Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!
That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
Latest episodes

Feb 24, 2023 • 11min
BONUS: To Munch, Remembering Richard Belzer
On this special bonus episode, Kara and Liza take a few moments to remember the life and work of Richard Belzer and his portrayal of the legendary character John Munch. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Feb 21, 2023 • 1h 49min
The Undiscovered Country w/ Joe Tapper
In this episode, Liza and Kara recap “The Undiscovered Country” (Season 19, Episode 13), discuss the devastating Charlie Gard case, and speak to the delightful Joe Tapper.SOURCES:Wikipedia - Charlie Gard caseThe New York TimesThe IndependentPeopleReutersWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:‘When Doctors and Parents Don’t Agree: The story of Charlie Gard’ by Natasha Hammond-Browninghttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5715039/Next week’s episode will be “Chasing Theo” (Season 18, Episode 8). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Feb 14, 2023 • 2h 3min
Turn Me on Take Me Private w/ Alex Brightman & Eva Noblezada
On today’s episode Liza and Kara recap the creepy “Turn Me on Take Me Private” (Season 22, Episode 5) and discuss the frustrating story of former NYC paramedic Lauren Caitlyn Kwei. Plus, this episode has TWO incredible interviews - Broadway darlings Alex Brightman (Beetlejuice) and Eva Noblezada (Miss Saigon).SOURCES:New York PostYahooRolling StoneWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:‘Cam’https://www.netflix.com/title/80177400?source=35‘Camgirl’https://bookshop.org/p/books/camgirl-isa-mazzei/10109904Next week’s episode will be “The Undiscovered Country” (Season 19, Episode 13). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Feb 7, 2023 • 2h 2min
Contrapasso w/ Kathleen Munroe
Today Kara and Liza cover the episode “Contrapasso” (Season 19, Episode 3), discuss the disturbing Sean Shaynak case, and speak to the amazingly talented actor Kathleen Munroe (FBI).SOURCES:New York Magazine 1New York Magazine 2The New York Times 1The New York Times 2The New York Times 3ABC7 New YorkSpectrum NewsThe Daily MailJezebelNew York PostHomefacts.comWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:‘Sexual Misconduct In The Classroom: Everything You Need to Know’https://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/sexual-misconduct-in-the-classroom-everything-you-need-to-know/Next week’s episode will be “Turn Me on Take Me Private” (Season 22, Episode 5). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jan 31, 2023 • 2h 1min
Shaken w/ Beverly D'Angelo
Today Kara and Liza cover the episode “Shaken” (Season 5, Episode 10), look into the history of “Shaken Baby Syndrome” and the Louise Woodward case, plus have a stirring conversation with the queen, the legend, Beverly D'Angelo.SOURCES:The New York Times 1The New York Times 2The New York Times 3The New York Times 4The New York Times 5The New York Times 6The New York Times 7Publications.aap.orgThe Washington Post 1The Washington Post 2The Washington Post 3The Washington Post 4Northwestern.eduThe Star DemocratMyeasternshoremd.comThe Daily MailYahooReason.comCleveland ClinicWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Parent's Resources - Shaken Baby Syndromehttps://www.childhelp.org/parent-resources/shaken-baby-syndrome/Next week’s episode will be “Contrapasso” (Season 19, Episode 3). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jan 24, 2023 • 1h 45min
Real Fake News w/ Kevin Carolan
On today’s episode Liza and Kara recap the all-too-real “Real Fake News” (Season 18, Episode 17), analyze the bizarre events around PizzaGate, and speak to the delightful Kevin Carolan (Can You Ever Forgive Me?).SOURCES:The New York Times 1The New York Times 2TimeWikipedia - Pizzagate conspiracy theoryWikipedia - Jack PosobiecSouthern Poverty Law CenterEsquireWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:‘How Americans can help stop fake news’ by Emily Gersemahttps://news.usc.edu/179176/how-to-help-stop-fake-news-misinformation-usc-experts/Next week’s episode will be “Shaken” (Season 5, Episode 10). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jan 17, 2023 • 2h 11min
Abomination w/ Michael Boatman
This week Kara and Liza cover “Abomination” (Season 5, Episode 8), investigate the horrific practices of the Westboro Baptist Church, and have a fantastic convo with the wonderful Michael Boatman (Spin City, The Good Fight).SOURCES:The New York Times 1The New York Times 2The New York Times 3MatthewShepard.comHistory.comNPR 1NPR 2NPR 3Southern Poverty Law Center 1Southern Poverty Law Center 2The Press and JournalThe Westboro Baptist Church WebsiteCNNJohnAvlon.comTimePoliticoThe Washington PostWNYCEsquireWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:PFLAGhttps://pflag.org/Next week’s episode will be “Real Fake News” (Season 18, Episode 17). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jan 10, 2023 • 1h 47min
Tangled Strands of Justice w/ Orfeh
This week Kara and Liza go over the episode “Tangled Strands of Justice” (Season 23, Episode 19), untangle a Jane Doe case whose DNA was inappropriately utilized, and have a fantastic conversation with the fabulous Orfeh.SOURCES:NPR 1NPR 2NPR 3Davis VanguardSan Francisco Chronicle 1San Francisco Chronicle 2San Francisco Chronicle 3San Francisco Chronicle 4California Legislative InformationFastDemocracyNew York Times 1New York Times 2New York Times 3Electronic Frontier FoundationWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Black Women Revolthttps://blackwomenrevolt.org/Next week’s episode will be “Abomination” (Season 5, Episode 8). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jan 3, 2023 • 2h 1min
Home Invasions w/ Kelli Giddish
This is a historic episode. This week, Liza and Kara break down “Home Invasions” (Season 13, Episode 14) and discuss the disturbing case of Jennifer Pan. Plus, they speak to the legend, the one and only Kelli Giddish aka Detective Amanda Rollins.SOURCES:Wikipedia - Stacey LannertWikipedia - Jennifer PanToronto LifeCBC 1CBC 2Northwest Asian WeeklyCrime TravellerWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:A Daughter's Deadly Deception: The Jennifer Pan Storyhttps://www.dundurn.com/books_/t22117/a9781459735248-a-daughter-s-deadly-deceptionNext week’s episode will be “Tangled Strands of Justice” (Season 23, Episode 19). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dec 27, 2022 • 1h 50min
Persona w/ Clea DuVall
On today’s episode Liza and Kara recap the haunting “Persona” (Season 10, Episode 8). They discuss the lives of three separate women who inspired this episode - Leslie Crocker Snyder, Marie Dean Arrington, and Kiranjit Ahluwalia. And they have a chat with the iconic Clea DuVall.SOURCES:The New YorkerWikipedia - Leslie Crocker SnyderWikipedia - Marie Dean ArringtonWikipedia - Kiranjit AhluwaliaWe’re HistoryMurderpediaCrimeReadsThe GuardianSouthall Black SistersWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:DomesticShelters.orghttps://www.domesticshelters.org/Next week’s episode will be “Home Invasions” (Season 13, Episode 14). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.