
That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast
Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun!
Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!
That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
Latest episodes

May 2, 2023 • 2h 2min
Inconceivable w/ Kevin Kane
On this week’s episode Liza and Kara break down “Inconceivable” (Season 9, Episode 14), discuss the fascinating story behind Ashley X, and have a great chat with Kevin Kane (Inside Amy Schumer, Life & Beth). SOURCES:Wikipedia - Ashley TreatmentNational Library of MedicineThe GuardianForbesThe Arizona RepublicPeopleWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Chick Missionhttps://www.thechickmission.org/Next week’s episode will be “Parole Violations” (Season 16, Episode 17). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Apr 25, 2023 • 1h 54min
Inheritance w/ Nelson Lee
Today Kara and Liza recap “Inheritance” (Season 3, Episode 8), they analyze the disgusting crimes of “The Beast of the Bastille," and they have a delightful convo with actor Nelson Lee (Stargirl, Mulan).SOURCES:NewsweekThe GuardianWikipedia - Guy GeorgesWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Things to Know If You Love a Multiracial Childhttps://www.embracerace.org/resources/topic/resources-for-raising-mixed-race-childrenNext week’s episode will be “Inconceivable” (Season 9, Episode 14). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Apr 18, 2023 • 1h 54min
Branded w/ Bess Rous
On this week’s episode Liza and Kara break down “Branded” (Season 12, Episode 6). They dissect two separate true crimes - the Richard Lee McNair prison break and the Masami Yoshinaga rape case. They also have a fantastic conversation with the wonderful Bess Rous (Murder in the First, Renfield).SOURCES:Wikipedia - Millennium (novel series)Wikipedia - Richard Lee McNairWikipedia - 1995 Okinawa rape incidentLos Angeles TimesThe New York Times 1The New York Times 2The New York Times 3CNNWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:The Fresh Air Fundhttps://freshair.org/Next week’s episode will be “Inheritance” (Season 3, Episode 8). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Apr 11, 2023 • 2h 27min
Lost Reputation & Above Suspicion w/ Paget Brewster
Today Kara and Liza recap two monumental SVU episodes “Lost Reputation” & “Above Suspicion” (Season 14, Episodes 1 & 2), they explore the wild escapades of the Anna Gristina and Jason Itzler escort rivalry, and they chat with the phenomenal Paget Brewster (Criminal Minds, Friends).SOURCES:The New York Times 1The New York Times 2The New York Times 3The New York Times 4The New York Times 5The New York Times 6The New York Times 7 The New York Times 8The New York Times 9The New York Times 10The New York Times 11The New York Times 12The New York Times 13NBC New YorkGothamist 1Gothamist 2RadarOnlineNew York Post 1New York Post 2New York MagazineWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Everytown for Gun Safetyhttps://www.everytown.org/Next week’s episode will be “Branded” (Season 12, Episode 6). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Apr 4, 2023 • 1h 56min
Haystack w/ Ashley Williams
The podcast delves into an undercover investigation involving drug trafficking and a shocking revelation of cocaine in a bag instead of a baby. They explore a family mystery through DNA analysis and discuss the tragic events in the Duckett case. The speaker shares anecdotes from their acting journey and empowers female directors in the film industry.

Mar 28, 2023 • 2h 15min
Unholiest Alliance w/ Robert John Burke
On this week’s episode Kara and Liza recap the second half of a two-parter with “Unholiest Alliance” (Season 17, Episode 18), they dive into the horrific true crime cover-up behind the murder of Sister Cathy Cesnik, and they have a moving conversation with the magnificent Robert John Burke (Rescue Me, Wakanda Forever).SOURCES:Netflix - The KeepersNew York Post 1New York Post 2New York Daily NewsDaily MailWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Survivors Network of those Abused by Priestshttps://www.snapnetwork.org/Next week’s episode will be “Haystack” (Season 8, Episode 15). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mar 21, 2023 • 1h 49min
Manhattan Transfer w/ Abigail Savage
Today Kara and Liza discuss the first episode of a two-parter, “Manhattan Transfer” (Season 17, Episode 17). They also analyze the pivotal work of the undercover Catholic nun organization Talitha Kum and have a great convo with actor Abigail Savage (Orange Is the New Black).SOURCES:Huffington PostTalithaKum.info 1TalithaKum.info 2NBC NewsYouTube - Currents NewsMs. MagazineCatholic News AgencyThe New York TimesWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Talitha Kumhttps://www.talithakum.info/enNext week’s episode will be “Unholiest Alliance” (Season 17, Episode 18). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mar 14, 2023 • 1h 57min
Poisoned Motive w/ Jessica Camacho
This week Liza and Kara cover the episode “Poisoned Motive” (Season 14, Episode 22), explore the unsettling Christopher Dorner shootings and manhunt, and speak to the effervescent Jessica Camacho (The Flash, Watchmen).SOURCES:Los Angeles Times 1Los Angeles Times 2Wikipedia - Christopher Dorner shootings and manhuntPolice 1Cornell LawNPRWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Cohen Veterans Networkhttps://www.cohenveteransnetwork.org/Next week’s episode will be “Manhattan Transfer” (Season 17, Episode 17). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mar 7, 2023 • 2h 5min
Pattern Seventeen w/ Josh Pais
In this episode, Liza and Kara recap “Pattern Seventeen” (Season 16, Episode 9), discuss the horrific crimes of Charles William Davis, Jr., and chat with the magnificent Josh Pais (Funny Pages, Ray Donovan).SOURCES:Wikipedia - Charles William DavisThe Washington PostReno Evening GazetteThe Baltimore SunJustia US LawCriminalminds.fandom.comMurderpediaWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:https://www.endthebacklog.org/ Next week’s episode will be “Poisoned Motive” (Season 14, Episode 22). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Feb 28, 2023 • 2h 14min
Chasing Theo w/ Rachelle Lefevre
Today Kara and Liza cover the episode “Chasing Theo” (Season 18, Episode 8), analyze both the disappearance of Melissa Brannen and the Goldman child abduction case, and have a great convo with Rachelle Lefevre (Twilight, Under the Dome).SOURCES:The Washington Post 1The Washington Post 2The New York Times 1 The New York Times 2 The New York Times 3 The New York Times 4 The New York Times 5 The New York Times 6 The New York Times 7TodayNaples Daily NewsHomefacts: Neighborhood Information Missingkids.orgForensic Files NowWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:‘Father & Son Helped Create a Law to Bring Abducted Kids Back to the U.S.’ from Tamron Hall Showhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_w2y1d_ph4Next week’s episodes will be “Pattern Seventeen” (Season 16, Episodes 9). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.