

That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast
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Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun!
Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!
That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!
That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
Episodes
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Aug 15, 2023 • 2h 15min
Lead w/ John Gallagher Jr.
In this episode, Kara and Liza recap “Lead” (Season 10, Episode 15) and cover several real-life crimes including multiple cases of recalled dangerous toys and the alleged sex abuse perpetrated by famed pediatrician Mel Levine. Plus, they have a wonderful convo with the very talented John Gallagher Jr. (Spring Awakening).This episode was recorded before the SAG-AFTRA strike.SOURCES:The New York Times 1The New York Times 2The New York Times 3The New York Times 4NBC NewsABC NewsWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Lead Poisoning Health Effects in ChildrenNext week’s episode will be “Totem” (Season 12, Episode 20). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Aug 8, 2023 • 2h 20min
Wednesday's Child w/ Jessica Phillips
Today, Liza and Kara cover “Wednesday's Child” (Season 15, Episode 14). They discuss several upsetting cases including the disappearance of Sky Metalwala and the abandonment of Artem Saveliev. Plus, they chat with the phenomenal Jessica Phillips aka Pippa Cox.This episode was recorded before the SAG-AFTRA strike.SOURCES:PeopleWikipedia - Disappearance of Sky MetalwalaKing 5 NewsWikipedia - Disruption (adoption)The New York TimesForbesUnited States Citizenship and Immigration ServicesCBS NewsNPRWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Adoption Disruption/DissolutionNext week’s episode will be “Lead” (Season 10, Episode 15). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Aug 1, 2023 • 1h 48min
Spousal Privilege w/ Chad L. Coleman
This week Liza and Kara recap “Spousal Privilege” (Season 16, Episode 8), investigate the Ray Rice case, and chat with the marvelous Chad L. Coleman (The Walking Dead, The Wire).SOURCES:EssenceWikipedia - Ray RiceTMZMen's JournalWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Love Life Now FoundationNext week’s episode will be “Wednesday's Child” (Season 15, Episode 14). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jul 25, 2023 • 2h 3min
Class w/ Trieste Kelly Dunn
In this episode, Kara and Liza recap “Class” (Season 7, Episode 17), dissect the disturbing murder of Jennifer Cave, and have a great chat with the wonderful Trieste Kelly Dunn (Banshee, Blindspot). SOURCES:Los Angeles TimesNew York PostAustin American-StatesmanKXANThe Austin ChronicleCBS NewsTexas District & County Attorneys AssociationWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:National Problem Gambling HelplineNext week’s episode will be “Spousal Privilege” (Season 16, Episode 8). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jul 18, 2023 • 1h 44min
The Third Guy w/ Rick Gonzalez
Today, Liza and Kara cover “The Third Guy” (Season 1, Episode 16). They discuss multiple cases including the murder of Mabel Monahan and the crimes of Johnny Paul Penry. Plus, they speak to the wonderful Rick Gonzalez (Coach Carter, Old School). This episode was recorded before the SAG-AFTRA strike.SOURCES:Los Angeles MagazineWikipedia - Barbara GrahamThe New York TimesWikipedia - Johnny Paul PenryWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Intellectual Disability and the Death PenaltyNext week’s episode will be “Class” (Season 7, Episode 17). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jul 11, 2023 • 1h 58min
Ballerina w/ Matthew Lillard
This week Kara and Liza recap “Ballerina” (Season 10, Episode 16) and explore two truly wild cases; Betty Neumar (a.k.a. "The Black Widow Granny") and Sante and Kenneth Kimes. Plus, they speak to the legend Matthew Lillard (Scream, Scooby-Doo).This episode was recorded before the SAG-AFTRA strike.SOURCES:The New York Times 1The New York Times 2The New York Times 3The New York Times 4The New York Times 5Vanity FairThe Daily MailCleveland.comSyracuse.comThe Florida Times-UnionLos Angeles TimesThe Maverick FilesWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Like Mother, Like Son: The Strange Story Of Santé & Kenneth KimesNext week’s episode will be “The Third Guy” (Season 1, Episode 16). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jul 4, 2023 • 1h 50min
Forgiving Rollins w/ Dreama Walker
In this episode, Liza and Kara cover “Forgiving Rollins” (Season 16, Episode 10), discuss the crimes of former Canadian colonel Russell Williams, and speak to the delightful Dreama Walker (Don't Trust the B---- in Apartment 23, Compliance). SOURCES:Wikipedia - Russell Williams (criminal)The New York TimesToronto StarMaclean'sCBCVancouver Is Awesome: Vancouver NewsWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Legal Help For Sex Discrimination And HarassmentNext week’s episode will be “Ballerina” (Season 10, Episode 16). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jun 27, 2023 • 1h 57min
PTSD w/ Dominic Fumusa
This week Kara and Liza recap “PTSD” (Season 10, Episode 9), investigate the murder of Maria Lauterbach, and have a thrilling chat with the talented Dominic Fumusa (Nurse Jackie, Sex and the City).SOURCES:CBS NewsCNN 1CNN 2The New York Times 1The New York Times 2The New York Times 3The New York Times 4The New York Times 5Dayton Daily NewsThe Columbus DispatchArmy.milNBC News 1NBC News 2WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Sexual Violence in the Military: A Guide for Civilian AdvocatesNext week’s episode will be “Forgiving Rollins” (Season 16, Episode 10). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jun 20, 2023 • 1h 59min
October Surprise w/ Kirk Acevedo
This week Liza and Kara recap “October Surprise” (Season 15, Episode 6), dissect the infamous Anthony Weiner saga, and speak to the phenomenal Kirk Acevedo (Oz, Band of Brothers). SOURCES:CNNThe New York TimesWikipedia - Anthony Weiner sexting scandalsNew York MagazineWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Weiner (2016) DocumentaryNext week’s episode will be “PTSD” (Season 10, Episode 9). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jun 13, 2023 • 2h 13min
Privilege w/ Michael Learned
Today Kara and Liza cover the episode “Privilege” (Season 4, Episode 17), discuss both the William Kennedy Smith rape allegations and the murder of Shiori Ino, and have a delightful chat with the legendary Michael Learned (The Waltons, Dahmer).The Party Is Cancelledhttps://www.newyorker.com/news/our-local-correspondents/the-party-is-cancelledSOURCES:WikiSummaries - William Kennedy Smith Is Accused of Rape SummarySavvy TokyoNews24Japan TodayThe Japan TimesMediumHistory.comCBS NewsLos Angeles TimesThe New York Times 1The New York Times 2The Washington PostNBC NewsChicago TribuneVanity FairWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:What is Stalking?https://victimconnect.org/learn/types-of-crime/stalking/Next week’s episode will be “October Surprise” (Season 15, Episode 6). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.