That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast
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Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun!
Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!
That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!
That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
Episodes
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Jan 24, 2023 • 1h 45min
Real Fake News w/ Kevin Carolan
On today’s episode Liza and Kara recap the all-too-real “Real Fake News” (Season 18, Episode 17), analyze the bizarre events around PizzaGate, and speak to the delightful Kevin Carolan (Can You Ever Forgive Me?).SOURCES:The New York Times 1The New York Times 2TimeWikipedia - Pizzagate conspiracy theoryWikipedia - Jack PosobiecSouthern Poverty Law CenterEsquireWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:‘How Americans can help stop fake news’ by Emily Gersemahttps://news.usc.edu/179176/how-to-help-stop-fake-news-misinformation-usc-experts/Next week’s episode will be “Shaken” (Season 5, Episode 10). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Jan 17, 2023 • 2h 11min
Abomination w/ Michael Boatman
This week Kara and Liza cover “Abomination” (Season 5, Episode 8), investigate the horrific practices of the Westboro Baptist Church, and have a fantastic convo with the wonderful Michael Boatman (Spin City, The Good Fight).SOURCES:The New York Times 1The New York Times 2The New York Times 3MatthewShepard.comHistory.comNPR 1NPR 2NPR 3Southern Poverty Law Center 1Southern Poverty Law Center 2The Press and JournalThe Westboro Baptist Church WebsiteCNNJohnAvlon.comTimePoliticoThe Washington PostWNYCEsquireWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:PFLAGhttps://pflag.org/Next week’s episode will be “Real Fake News” (Season 18, Episode 17). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Jan 10, 2023 • 1h 47min
Tangled Strands of Justice w/ Orfeh
This week Kara and Liza go over the episode “Tangled Strands of Justice” (Season 23, Episode 19), untangle a Jane Doe case whose DNA was inappropriately utilized, and have a fantastic conversation with the fabulous Orfeh.SOURCES:NPR 1NPR 2NPR 3Davis VanguardSan Francisco Chronicle 1San Francisco Chronicle 2San Francisco Chronicle 3San Francisco Chronicle 4California Legislative InformationFastDemocracyNew York Times 1New York Times 2New York Times 3Electronic Frontier FoundationWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Black Women Revolthttps://blackwomenrevolt.org/Next week’s episode will be “Abomination” (Season 5, Episode 8). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Jan 3, 2023 • 2h 1min
Home Invasions w/ Kelli Giddish
This is a historic episode. This week, Liza and Kara break down “Home Invasions” (Season 13, Episode 14) and discuss the disturbing case of Jennifer Pan. Plus, they speak to the legend, the one and only Kelli Giddish aka Detective Amanda Rollins.SOURCES:Wikipedia - Stacey LannertWikipedia - Jennifer PanToronto LifeCBC 1CBC 2Northwest Asian WeeklyCrime TravellerWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:A Daughter's Deadly Deception: The Jennifer Pan Storyhttps://www.dundurn.com/books_/t22117/a9781459735248-a-daughter-s-deadly-deceptionNext week’s episode will be “Tangled Strands of Justice” (Season 23, Episode 19). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Dec 27, 2022 • 1h 50min
Persona w/ Clea DuVall
On today’s episode Liza and Kara recap the haunting “Persona” (Season 10, Episode 8). They discuss the lives of three separate women who inspired this episode - Leslie Crocker Snyder, Marie Dean Arrington, and Kiranjit Ahluwalia. And they have a chat with the iconic Clea DuVall.SOURCES:The New YorkerWikipedia - Leslie Crocker SnyderWikipedia - Marie Dean ArringtonWikipedia - Kiranjit AhluwaliaWe’re HistoryMurderpediaCrimeReadsThe GuardianSouthall Black SistersWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:DomesticShelters.orghttps://www.domesticshelters.org/Next week’s episode will be “Home Invasions” (Season 13, Episode 14). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Dec 20, 2022 • 2h 15min
Intersecting Lives & Heartfelt Passages w/ Andy Karl
This week Kara and Liza do the unthinkable and recap two episodes - “Intersecting Lives” & “Heartfelt Passages” (Season 17, Episodes 22 & 23), they dissect the horrific crimes of former police officer Daniel Holtzclaw, and they have a riveting chat with Andy Karl aka Sergeant Mike Dodds aka “Baby Dodds.”SOURCES:The OklahomanBuzzfeed NewsThe New York TimesThe Washington Post 1The Washington Post 2The Washington Post 3ReutersThe Daily BeastCNNWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Women’s Prison Associationhttps://www.wpaonline.org/Next week’s episode will be “Persona” (Season 10, Episode 8). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Dec 13, 2022 • 1h 60min
Zebras w/ Mike Doyle
This week Liza and Kara discuss the iconic episode “Zebras” (Season 10, Episode 22), examine the tragic murder of Kendra Webdale, and chat with the legendary Mike Doyle aka Forensics Tech Ryan O'Halloran. SOURCES:The New York Times 1The New York Times 2The New York Times 3The New York Times 4The New York Daily NewsWikipedia - Kendra's LawNew York MagazineGothamistWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Treatment Advocacy Centerhttps://www.treatmentadvocacycenter.org/Next week’s episodes will be “Intersecting Lives” & “Heartfelt Passages” (Season 17, Episodes 22 & 23). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Dec 6, 2022 • 1h 57min
Perverted w/ Emma Myles
In this episode, Liza and Kara break down “Perverted” (Season 11, Episode 9). Then they take on faking DNA, the scientific cons of Fred Zain, and the wild world of biker gangs. Plus, they have a great conversation with the wonderful Emma Myles (Orange Is the New Black).SOURCES:GrungeInternational Journal of Motorcycle StudiesHells-angels.comThe New York Times 1The New York Times 2Forensic Science InternationalWikipedia - Fred ZainThe Herald-DispatchWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:One Simple Wishhttps://www.onesimplewish.org/Next week’s episode will be “Zebras” (Season 10, Episode 22). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Nov 29, 2022 • 2h
Dominance w/ Caren Browning
This week Kara and Liza recap “Dominance” (Season 4, Episode 20), analyze the horrific Wichita Massacre, and chop it up with the delightful Caren Browning aka CSU Captain Judith Siper.SOURCES:The New York TimesOxygenWichita-massacre.comNewsweekUS NewsThe Topeka Capital-JournalLawrence Journal-World 1Lawrence Journal-World 2Wichita State UniversityForgottenvictims.comCNNThe Washington TimesCBS NewsKAKEKansas State University FoundationJason Befort Memorial TournamentMental FlossWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:‘Sibling Bullying and Abuse: The Hidden Epidemic’ by Darlene Lancer, JD, LMFThttps://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/toxic-relationships/202002/sibling-bullying-and-abuse-the-hidden-epidemicNext week’s episode will be “Perverted” (Season 11, Episode 9). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Nov 22, 2022 • 1h 45min
Secrets Exhumed w/ Roscoe Orman
Today Liza and Kara break down the much-requested “Secrets Exhumed” (Season 14, Episode 14), recount the unbelievable story behind the murder of Sherri Rasmussen, and have a chat with the iconic Roscoe Orman (Sesame Street).SOURCES:Vanity FairWikipedia - Murder of Sherri RasmussenThe Huffington PostAll That’s InterestingThe New York Times 1The New York Times 2JCS - Criminal Psychology - The Interrogation of Stephanie LazarusThe Daily NewsThe AtlanticDeadlineWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:‘Matthew McGough: The Lazarus Files’ on the Wicked Words podcast:https://podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/matthew-mcgough-the-lazarus-files/id1538204210?i=1000570277307Next week’s episode will be “Dominance” (Season 4, Episode 20). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
