Verse Talks

02:20 - p5 and the evolution of Botto 10:22 - The future of governance and Botto's agency 15:00 - Navigating the new agentic landscape 19:25 - Botto's economy 23:50 - Responsibility, conviction and longevity 25:51 - Simon's motivations 31:50 - The power of the DAO 40:20 - p5.Botto, surprises, parallels and development 48:36 - Possible futures and directions 51:08 - Present day impact 58:18 - The AI Crypto meta, noise and communication 01:05:09 - Botto's taste and the drive to create            

02:40 - Building and hacking systems 09:35 - The birth of Botto 14:10 - The importance of the DAO 18:30 - The evolution of Botto in the face of new AI development 20:40 - Botto's persona and longevity 25:30 - Styles, themes and periods 27:53 - The economy of Botto, rewards and incentives 37:45 - The genesis of P5.Botto 41:15 - How the p5.Botto system works 47:50 - The final 22 algorithms 56:43 - Long term goals and possible futures 57:48 - The tension and benefits between autonomy and governance 01:00:39 - How much of Botto's personality comes through 01:03:29 - How Mario sees things developing 01:07:10 - The importance of competition               

01:25 - Crazy season  11:25 - Kim Asendof's PXL and an upward market  21:47 - Thinking about emerging artists  26:25 - Striking a balance  31:26 - Tabor Robak's Tabcorp Labs  36:24 - Verse Rundown  39:16 - Artist Highlights  40:49 - Digital natives and gaming culture  44:22 - Artist Highlights part 2  48:40 - A chat with Jo Lawson-Tancred  50:21 - Is the art world dead?  53:00 - Scepticism around AI in art  58:15 - AI within the paradigm of digital art and its culture of collecting  01:00:08 - The advent of the art market and parallels with the digital landscape  01:03:58 - Straddling the traditional and web3 spaces  01:10:20 - AI as an artist  01:14:13 - AI and The Art Market  01:20:25 - Opacity and Transparency in the trad and web3 markets  Kim Asendorf: https://x.com/kimasendorf  Tabor Robak: https://x.com/TaborRobak  John Karrel:  https://x.com/jjjjjjjjjjohn DistCollective: https://x.com/dist_cs   Matto: https://x.com/matto__matto Jo Lawson-Tancred: https://x.com/jolawsontancred AI and the Art Market https://www.lundhumphries.com/products/ai-and-the-art-market                

00:37 - Ivan heads up Artist Rooms 01:50 - The excitement of a more open schedule 03:04 - Curation and focus for Artist Rooms 07:19 - Flexibility, freedom and consistency 11:13 - Thinking about what to show 14:54 - A difference in approach 20:07 - Foundations and backgrounds 32:13 - Breaking new ground with Botto 36:55 - Rodeo forging ahead 45:25 - The success of gamification 47:30 - Implications for the mainstream 50:20 - Verse rundown 50:43 - Artist highlightsJay's Rodeo thread: https://x.com/punk7635/status/1879324354074587191?s=46 Anna  Malina: https://x.com/annaxmalina Juanna Pedro: https://x.com/PedroJuanna Andrea Litmus: https://x.com/andrealitmus  Shoye: https://x.com/_SHOYE_Molly Moon: https://www.tiktok.com/@mollymoonn2?lang=en         

01:38 - Breaking down the list 03:40 - Context matters 07:06 - Liquidity and rarity 10:37 - How to define importance 16:10 - The problem with 'the' list 21:08 - Trickle-down economics and potential positives 27:34 - A split in the space, ChrisF's prescience 34:24 - Rodeo takes off 37:06 - Gamification and social interaction 39:37 - Ease of use and pace of consumption 42:22 - Thoughts as a collector 45:55 - Potential impact on an artist's body of work 47:11 -  Onboarding and growth 54:50- Verse rundown 57:37 - Artist Highlights John Provencher - https://x.com/hahajohnx/status/1876065942637359452?s=46&t=Y0qIYiBAAsy4ea-t-FfRQw Marcela Bellini - https://x.com/studiobellini  https://rodeo.club/@marcelaart  Sabato - https://x.com/sabatobox  https://rodeo.club/@sabato Scorpion Dagger - https://x.com/scorpdag  https://rodeo.club/@scorpiondagger           

06:49 - Trends and predictions for 2025 07:20 - AI agents and their continued impact  18:51 - The decline of metas  26:24 - Expanding the definition of art  28:56 - An increased tokenisation of art   30:57 - Barriers to entry for the space  36:58 - Complexity and exclusion  44:43 - WIPs and social engagement  46:07 - Growth in mixed media works  46:56 - Collecting in 2025  56:32 - Relationship with works  01:04:32 - Approaches to curating in 2025  01:17:28 - Verse rundown 

01:38 - Highlights and Lowlights 22:23 - Collector of the year 30:44 - Influencer of the year 40:25 - Blockchain of the year 46:10 - Controversy of the year 59:15 - Most though provoking piece of the year 01:01:46 - Series of the year 01:05:37 - Artwork of the year 01:08:21 - Favourite pieces collected this year 01:18:22 - Favourite new discovery this year 01:21:03 - Artist of the year 01:25:35 - Parting thoughts on 2024 Collector of the year: Studio137: https://gallery.so/studio137 ClownVamp: https://x.com/ClownVamp  Artie Handz: https://x.com/punk7635 Graceb: https://x.com/graceb_art ikijima: https://x.com/iki_jima Influencer of the year: DeeZe: https://x.com/deeze redbeard: https://x.com/redbeardnftSonso: https://x.com/saintsonso Shillr: https://x.com/shillrxyz Le Random: https://x.com/lerandomart Greekdx: https://x.com/greekdx CSA2D7: https://x.com/csa2d7 Blockbird: https://x.com/_blockbird sssluke: https://x.com/sssluke1 Most Thought Provoking Works:Holly Herndon & Mat Dryhurst - The Call https://www.serpentinegalleries.org/whats-on/holly-herndon-mat-dryhurst-the-call/ Shl0ms: https://www.shl0ms.com0xfff - World Computer Sculpture Garden https://worldcomputersculpture.garden Favourite Series: Erik Swahn - Autoscope https://verse.works/series/autoscope-by-erik-swahn Petra Cortright - Burnt Umber Broken Silver American Spirit https://verse.works/series/burnt-umber-broken-silver-american-spirit-by-petra-cortright tinysoul: Level 1 https://verse.works/series/level-1-by-tiny-soul Joe Pease - everything vs nothing: https://www.everythingvsnothing.com Travess Smalley – Crawl https://feralfile.com/explore/series/82dcf3d9-56ba-40bf-b57d-3a631bbdb7d5?viewMode=Grid 0xfff - You Are Here https://youarehere.0xfff.love Rutherford Chang - CENTS https://rutherfordchang.com/cents PERFECTLOOP - Trails https://verse.works/series/trails-by-perfect-l00p Yoshi Sodeoka - The Flood https://verse.works/series/the-flood-orchestrated-by-yoshi-sodeoka Jacek Markusiewicz - Barbarians https://verse.works/series/barbarians-by-jacek-markusiewicz Roope Rainisto - Vacation https://verse.works/series/vacation-by-roope-rainisto Tabor Robak - Broken Printer

01:23 - Signs for the year ahead  04:52 - Looking back on 2024  10:11 - Buying, selling and thinking about a collection from a market perspective  13:21 - Reflecting on the last year at Verse  17:10 - Institutional and populist approaches towards culture  20:50 - ChrisF's systems art vs object fetishism thesis  27:49 - fxhash, OpenSea and platform tokens  42:42 - Lonli's highlight  44:16 - Verse rundown  47:59 - Artist Highlights   ChrisF's tweet - https://x.com/chrisf_0x/status/1867663900256481763?s=46&t=Y0qIYiBAAsy4ea-t-FfRQw Riiiis: bully - https://verse.works/series/bully-by-riiiis Jacek Markusiewicz: Barbarians - https://verse.works/series/barbarians-by-jacek-markusiewicz Erik Swahn: Autoscope - https://verse.works/series/autoscope-by-erik-swahn Datura - https://x.com/daturascore Yehwan Song - https://x.com/yehwanyensongYehwan Song - Seeingless Seeing - https://verse.works/artworks/5dd8d947-ae87-4283-b526-35b1083c9e17/1 gozo - https://x.com/uncertaingaze ex_mortal - https://x.com/ex_mortal_ ex_mortal: infinity_systems_one - https://verse.works/series/infinity_systems_one-by-ex-mortal      

01:14 - An overview of Tabor's career to date  04:19 - The common threads  07:25 - Physical vs digital  12:39 - Scepticism from the traditional space  15:41 - Working at a web3 pace  18:44 - Conservatism in contemporary art  25:30 - Broken Printer's Recycled Program  29:53 - The process of creating a Recycled piece  34:23 - The genesis of Broken Printer  40:22 - The birth of TABCORP LABS  43:08 - What is TABCORP LABS  47:46 - The artist, collector dynamic  51:05 - The Materializer and the mechanics of TABCORP LABS  53:53 - New traits and how they impact the work  58:03 - Tabor's Favourite Broken Printer  01:02:20 - When will collectors receive their pieces  

00:38 - Art Basel Recap  04:12 - Online vs irl connections  07:40 - Reflections on Security 19:59 - Release mechanics and artist growth 32:15 - The value of network effects 38:48 - Do curators need to be collectors 45:25 - Basel Recap pt 2 51:00 - Verse rundown 59:07 - Artist highlights Dev Harlan - https://x.com/devharlanNicolas Sassoon - https://x.com/nicolas_sassoonTabor Robak - https://x.com/taborrobak Tù.úk’z - https://x.com/tuukzsDadabots - https://x.com/dadabots