Verse Talks

Verse
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Apr 12, 2025 • 1h 25min

Toxic positivity within the space, are panel discussions boring? Leyla's wallet boycott, Jack Kaido and SuperRare

01:20 - Recap on William Mapan's SOLOS exhibition in London05:00 - Mapan's holistic artistic approach 07:40 - Are discussion panels boring14:20 - Embracing browser discrepancies 22:00 -  The artist's intent vs breaking emerging standards28:15 - Leyla's wallet boycott 33:10 - Jack Kaido and SuperRare 43:07 - Diving into Holly's collection 47:37 - Toxic positivity and Grace's post 54:17 - Timeframes and an opportunity to miss out 57:58 - Building out context in the digital space01:00:30 - Botto's Liminal Thresholds 01:05:06 - Artists Rooms, formats and new focus 01:12:03 - Developing a release program and striking a balance 01:14:00 - Artist highlights 01:23:45 - Verse rundown  https://x.com/andreasgysin https://x.com/graphicapng https://x.com/reas https://x.com/graceb_art 
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Apr 4, 2025 • 58min

The Deviates secret revealed (SPOILERS), Chat GPT's Ghibli moment and life with personalised slop machines

00:58 - The Deviates aftermath 02:15 - Unpacking the process 03:45 - The secret 06:40 - Driving variety and collaboration 10:50 -  Battling platform censorship 13:50 - The reveal 16:45 - Great art can come from anywhere 20:20 - Self-expression and acceptance 23:15 - Deviations and community 24:18 - Permanence and provenance 27:09 - Personalised slop machines 35:40 - ChatGPT and the next wave of entrants 40:50 - Overly complex, off-putting tech 43:40 - Digital goes physical 47:30 - Deviates blue chip, red chip, purple chip? 49:10 - Fall out from Ghibli-gate 51:18 - William Mapan, sales mechanics 54:50 - Artie Gallerie and Kevin Esherick 56:29 - Fakewhale and Andy Duboc  
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Mar 28, 2025 • 1h 5min

Opening the sketchbook: A conversation with William Mapan

01:22 - A complex practice 05:30 - Reflecting on Sketchbook A 09:50 - Parenthood on creativity  12:15 - Slowing down and escaping a framework 16:00 - Building bridges and the importance of physical work 19:48 - The evolution of Sketchbook B and Etudes 26:05 - Immersed in the process27:33 - The completion of the sketchbook 31:20 - Mark making, self-exploration and identity 34:35 - Dealing with the noise 37:35 - The current focus on AI 39:49 - Does the medium matter 43:15 - Burnout and maintaining a work-life balance 47:30 - Installing Sketchbook B and highlighting the algorithm 53:45 - Authenticity and freedom of expression 56:38 - Thinking on sales mechanics and allowlists 59:19 - Intensity, stress and prerelease thoughts         
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Mar 21, 2025 • 2h 2min

Blue chip art in a red chip world, Jeff Magid and traditional perspectives, converging towards consensus

01:30 - Jeff Magid 08:50 - Discovering another world 16:25 - Becoming a collector 19:15 - Risks and rewards 24:35 - Breaking convention 28:40 - The future of the art world and digital art 36:19 - Value creation and a complex market 39:55 - Stagnation and exclusivity 44:27 - Welcoming new participants 48:40 - Where digital art is going wrong 57:27 - The stigma of the PFP 1:00 - An outside perspective 01:01:54 - The roundtable returns01:03:10 - Growing the digital space 01:05:30 - Fantasy art funds 01:06:20 - Parallel worlds 01:08:20 - The physicality of digital 01:10:08 - The promise of the metaverse 01:13:40 - Interacting and living with digital art 01:21:13 - Breaking down an outsiders perspective 01:26:20 - Blue chip art in a red chip world 01:36:30 - Converging towards a consensus look 01:41:10 - Agency, exposure and the impact of social media 01:51:49 - Red or blue 01:52:25 - High-end sales and moves 01:54:08 - Artist Highlights 01:58:28 - Verse rundown hicetnunc2000: https://x.com/hicetnunc2000 kiszkiloszki: https://x.com/kiszkiloszki Molly Soda: https://www.instagram.com/bloatedandalone4evr1993 Casey Reas: https://x.com/reas Shl0ms: https://x.com/shl0ms Jeff Magid: https://www.instagram.com/magideye   
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Mar 14, 2025 • 56min

Hot deals or falling knives, the pullback and its cultural impact, thinking about historical context

01:03 - Hunting for deals 02:47 - A market slump's effect on cultural enthusiasm 06:40 - Reassessing pricing and expanding the collector base 10:10 - Buying the top and catching falling knives 14:26 - Managing liquidity 15:46 - Navigating the market as an artist 19:22 - New mediums, new metas and perspectives 24:04 - Approaching historical context as a curator 32:15 - Watching the exit 33:30 - The market and creativity 35:29 - Total abundance and the All In Podcast 42:44 - Pacing and sustainability 48:35 - Artist highlights 52:00 - Verse rundown Obtainer: https://x.com/obtainer Kat the Poet Engineer: https://x.com/poetengineer bjorn calleja: https://x.com/bjorncalleja stoopid avatar: https://x.com/stoopidavatar Iskra Velitchkova: https://x.com/pointline elements of air: https://x.com/pointline_/status/1897615862984589505?s=46&t=Y0qIYiBAAsy4ea-t-FfRQw All In episode 218: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/all-in-with-chamath-jason-sacks-friedberg/id1502871393?i=1000698337313 
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Mar 7, 2025 • 1h 27min

The Giraffe, pretension vs fun, building in the space and the team's 2 ETH picks

03:00 - The Giraffe, debate, drama and narrative 07:37 - Understanding and the value of participation 11:19 - Pretension vs fun16:15 - Freedom of expression and new value systems 22:43 - The Funny Guys, Monk Antony and Le Random 25:48 - Historic importance 30:00 - Research, criticality and ignoring hype 32:50 - Diving into Kaloh's tweet - the team's 2 ETH picks 46:30 - The difficulty of building in the space 54:20 - The impact of markets and cycles on collecting 56:55 - Mainstream understanding and expanding the collector base 01:02:00 - Embracing and exploring both cultural sphere's 01:05:50 - Diving into Eli's tweet - the team's picks 01:09:18 - Higgs, Christie's and the last week' s releases 01:13:15 - Verse rundown 01:16:16 - Artist highlights Computer Critters: https://x.com/beachsideufo littlecakes: https://x.com/evrythngissoft Canek Zapata: https://x.com/canekzapata Peter The Roman: https://x.com/peterthe_romanGozo: https://x.com/uncertaingaze Tuukzs: https://x.com/tuukzs José Narciso: https://x.com/narcisojuse         
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Feb 28, 2025 • 1h 40min

A conversation with Alejandro Cartagena, competition and collaboration, curating AI Agents and the power of machine artists

01:40 - Embracing Web3's rollercoaster 03:20 - Navigating the intensity and finding a balance 07:57 -  Living parallel lives 10:20 - Understanding new value systems and cultural shifts 14:14 - Opportunities within a lack of bureaucracy 18:00 - What denotes importance 27:00 - Grace's Tweet, competition and platform collaboration 30:20 - AI curation, Fellowship's north star and laying paths 36:25 - The reality of targeting a wider audience 40:30 - Strength in diversity and listening to the artwork 44:35 - Marketing, engagement and impact 52:00 - Unpacking keke 56:00 - Curating and guiding an AI Agent 01:00:30 - The inherent potential of a machine artist 01:02:30 - Mixed implementation of process 01:07:55 - Collector burnout 01:15:30 - The power of a timeline 01:18:20 - The evolution of the Daily program 01:24:20 - The state of the cycle 01:27:30 - Zora and fractionalisation 01:34:27 - Artist Highlights 01:38:00 - Verse Rundown  Colour Charlie: https://x.com/colour_charlie Skomra: https://x.com/skomra John Gerrard: https://x.com/john__gerrard                  
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Feb 21, 2025 • 1h 23min

Unpacking Geometric Fluidity, concept vs aesthetics, SuperRare's Discord closure

01:45 - Unpacking Geometric Fluidity 04:28 - First steps and markers06:52 - Community, creation and curation 09:58 - Proof of participation 12:00 - Tensions and criticism 16:25 - Building conversations 20:29 - Over indexing on complexity 24:25 - The Future of Man 26:48 - Collector interaction 29:45 - Artistic merit vs market value 40:00 - Emperor's new clothes and conceptual gymnastics 49:35 - SuperRare shutters their discord 52:15 - Marketing, community and authenticity 56:54 - The importance of a place for human interaction 01:00:00 - Artist-collector interaction and support 01:06:00 - Gallery outreach and bandwidth constraints 01:14:35 - 22 Algorithms, The Giraffe and predictions 01:16:42 - Artist highlights koneko: https://x.com/koneko_nyao Eddi Jones: https://x.com/eddijonesnft Chino Amobi: https://www.instagram.com/chinoamobi Mazin: https://x.com/endless_mazin Artie's #2316 thread: https://x.com/punk7635/status/1891997386135773388?s=46&t=Y0qIYiBAAsy4ea-t-FfRQw 
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Feb 14, 2025 • 45min

Botto post-performance, the Christie's letter, art vs slop

01:02 - Big sales and moving beyond the bubble 02:27 - Considered acquisitions 04:15 - Botto evolution and the afterlife of the work 07:09 - Thoughts on the performance and the final 22 13:41 - Community, interaction and curation 18:15 - The open letter to Christie's 21:45 - Art vs Slop 22:40 - The reality of appropriation in a contemporary practice 24:58 - A question of degree29:50 - Speed of development and a lack of understanding 32:19 - Verse rundown 38:40 - Artist highlights  Gozo - https://x.com/uncertaingaze Samia Halaby -  https://www.instagram.com/samiahalaby Ahtamaraneze - https://x.com/ahtamaraneze 
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Feb 7, 2025 • 56min

Is marketing the new curating, navigating the algorithm, chain dynamics

00:40 - The market's impact 03:15 - Chain choices and complexities 12:00 - Early constraints and historic value 15:20 - Is marketing the new curating? 17:15 - Defining curation 19:16 - Communication, context and narrative 23:20 - Differences in approach between the web3 and trad art-worlds 28:06 - Personal connections and interactions 30:06 - Navigating click bait and the algorithm 35:00 - That Botto tweet 43:13 - Artist highlights 49:35 - Verse rundown 0xvalent: https://x.com/0xvalent Canek Zapata: https://x.com/canekzapata Nat Sarkissian: https://x.com/_natsarkissianPixel Symphony: https://x.com/pixel0symphony xu0.xo: https://x.com/xo_xu0 6oryachikh: https://x.com/6oryachikh Aleksandra Jovanic: https://x.com/alexis_o_oJacek Markusiewicz: https://x.com/jmarkusiewicz Claudia Hart: https://x.com/yesclaudiahart            

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