00:58 - The Deviates aftermath
02:15 - Unpacking the process
03:45 - The secret
06:40 - Driving variety and collaboration
10:50 - Battling platform censorship
13:50 - The reveal
16:45 - Great art can come from anywhere
20:20 - Self-expression and acceptance
23:15 - Deviations and community
24:18 - Permanence and provenance
27:09 - Personalised slop machines
35:40 - ChatGPT and the next wave of entrants
40:50 - Overly complex, off-putting tech
43:40 - Digital goes physical
47:30 - Deviates blue chip, red chip, purple chip?
49:10 - Fall out from Ghibli-gate
51:18 - William Mapan, sales mechanics
54:50 - Artie Gallerie and Kevin Esherick
56:29 - Fakewhale and Andy Duboc
Verse Talks