

Verse Talks
Verse
Discussing the latest news in digital art with Leyla Fakhr and Jamie Gourlay.
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Jan 23, 2026 • 1h 20min
Tabor Robak: Human Resources and the Tabcorp shared universe
00:26 - Welcome (back) Tabor Robak01:40 - Broken Printer and Tabcorp Labs03:25 - The Tabcorp universe05:25 - Human Resources and exploring PFP as a genre 11:10 - A critique of corporate culture12:45 - The process behind Human Resources 16:05 - Traits and rarity 19:00 - Are we the PFPs? 19:57 - Community and the future of Tabcorp 21:50 - Between the traditional and web3 art worlds 25:50 - Determining the number of traits 29:07 - The relationship between Human Resources and Tabcorp 31:05 - Building the network 36:09 - Addressing diversity and conceptual challenges41:36 - Exploring release mechanics and mint allocations 47:31 - How NFTs have fed into Tabor's broader practice51:49 - What drew Tabor to NFTs as a medium 55:25 - Challenges and perceptions in the art world 58:20 - Online fatigue and a move back towards IRL59:49 - Indexing Human Resources 01:03:34 - The simulation as a medium 01:06:20 - Tabcorp Labs artwork updates 01:08:25 - Keeping pace with technological change 01:10:22 - Art as a brand and the studio as a factory 01:13:47 - The social dimension of an artwork https://www.taborrobak.com https://x.com/taborrobakHuman Resources: https://verse.works/series/human-resources

Jan 9, 2026 • 1h 55min
Rhea Myers: making art to understand the world
01:18 - Welcome Rhea Myers01:26 - Rhea's journey into art and technology02:08 - Art school experiences and early career07:56 - An anthropological approach to the tech industry10:59 - An artistic approach to programming17:43 - Blockchain and cultural observations24:39 - Early days of blockchain and crypto art37:47 - TORCHED H34R7S42:05 - Challenges in works that depend on audience participation44:29 - Cryptocurrency and cultural misunderstandings46:19 - Blockchain's artistic and conceptual impact52:17 - Early days of Ethereum and smart contracts01:01:27 - Art and blockchain: a symbiotic relationship01:09:51 - The evolution of crypto art and NFTs01:12:08 - The Fractionalized Phallus and gender identity01:19:57 - Navigating the art and crypto worlds01:22:31 - Reflections on the artistic origins of NFTs01:24:03 - Gallery collaborations and curatorial insights 01:31:20 - Emotional depth, authorship, and personal resonance 01:34:44 - Introducing Koala Noosphere01:40:02 - The concept of ownership in NFTs01:52:41 - Future projects and final thoughts

Dec 19, 2025 • 48min
Phil Mohun: building Node Foundation and the future of digital art
00:26 - Welcome Phil Mohun01:44 - The vision behind Node Foundation03:23 - Why Palo Alto?04:05 - The importance of Silicon Valley06:14 - The role of Node in the art community15:09 - Node's programming and seasonal approach19:02 - Focus on presentation, education, and preservation25:18 - CryptoPunks and ERC standards26:36 - Yuga's contribution and collection bids28:06 - Creating cultural impact and a distinct brand31:20 - Node's vision and nonprofit model34:39 - Sustaining Node and community support43:34 - The importance of physical and digital spaceshttps://x.com/philmohun https://x.com/nodefnd?s=21&t=Y0qIYiBAAsy4ea-t-FfRQw https://nodefoundation.com/

Dec 14, 2025 • 1h 12min
Terence Broad: from Blade Runner to (un)stable equilibrium
01:44 - Welcome Terence Broad02:41 - Terry's early artistic journey 07:16 - Transition to creative computing 14:03 - Exploring AI and generative art 15:45 - DeepDream and AI visual understanding 19:42 - Blade Runner—Autoencoded25:56 - From Whitney to worldwide 34:12 - Balancing an art and tech career 34:43 - Pursuing a PhD and creative AI 36:09 - Developing (un)stable equilibrium 36:59 - Challenges and breakthroughs 42:36 - Recognition and impact of (un)stable equilibrium 44:08 - PhD experience and artistic practice 50:27 - AI art and data ethics 52:15 - NFTs and connecting with collectors 55:27 - Future directions and inspirations 01:03:38 - Network bending, Teratome and other works 01:09:32 - How AI has shifted perceptions around creativity https://terencebroad.com Terence Broad on X https://verse.works/exhibitions/unstable-equilibrium

Dec 5, 2025 • 1h 40min
On the ground inside Zero 10 with Matt Medved
00:22 - Welcome Matt Medved 04:34 The Evolution of Media and Culture06:36 The Birth of NFT Now and Its Mission08:52 The Gateway: Bridging Traditional and Digital Art10:42 The Shift to Now Media15:32 Art Basel and the Digital Art Council21:51 Meeting the market where it is and growing understanding 24:33 Reflections on Art Basel and Digital Art26:46 The Future of Digital Art in Traditional Spaces29:34 Interactive and Immersive Digital Art33:00 - Highlights and Reflections from the fair41:02 - Live on the ground inside zero 10https://nowmedia.co Matt Medved: https://x.com/mattmedved Now Media: https://x.com/nowmedia

Nov 28, 2025 • 60min
Laurie Simmons: art, identity & experimentation in the age of AI
01:42 - Welcome Laurie Simmons 04:17 - Early inspiration, New York and formative travel 07:25 - Artistic beginnings and creative identity 12:00 - Politics, rebellion and activism 14:57 - Navigating gender norms and early works 21:45 - AI and artistic evolution 27:55 - Photography and artistic identity 30:26 - Connections and collaborations 32:32 - Meeting kindred spirits in the art world 33:08 - Defining movements and appropriation 35:05 - Rejecting the previous generation’s approach37:14 - Navigating the art world and personal identity 40:26 - Embracing NFTs and digital art 43:39 - Thinking about the space as a separate art world 47:53 - What causes the stigma around NFTs and AI among legacy artists 50:24 - The changing landscape of the art world 54:40 - Looking forward towards the future Laurie Simmons: https://x.com/simmonslaurie Black & White: https://www.alminerech.com/exhibitions/11587-laurie-simmons-black-white

Nov 25, 2025 • 1h 24min
Refik Anadol: building the world's first museum for AI art and celebrating humanity through machine collaboration
01:15 - Welcome Refik Anadol02:07 - Blade Runner, media architecture and early inspirations 03:34 - Defining data painting04:45 - The concept of data as pigment07:44 - Fusing art and architecture 10:24 - Viral success and public art13:49 - Collaborations and technological innovation 16:30 - Defining a medium through a holistic approach 21:27- Building the datasets and creating positive impact 25:10 - Galleries, collectors and shifting understandings 29:10 - Avoiding the hype and staying focused 31:19 - Collaborating with Messi 38:03 - Public perception and criticism 45:08 - Early blockchain exploration47:25 - Unsupervised at MoMA 48:34 - Balancing physical and digital art49:41 - Challenges and opportunities in web354:27 - The vision behind Dataland 01:00:02 - Thinking in "living systems"01:03:09 - The role of technology in art 01:07:18 - Art as a celebration of humanity 01:11:59 - Collaborating with Demis Hassabis and Jensen Huang 01:20:44 - Future plans and collaborations Refik Anadol: https://x.com/refikanadol https://dataland.art/Dataland Residency Program: https://dataland.art/blog/introducing-the-dataland-ai-artist-residency

Nov 21, 2025 • 48min
Tyler Hobbs: From Noise
00:50 - Early days and the Art Blocks boom03:48 - A mixed-media approach to a generative practice 05:02 - From Noise 08:50 - Exploring gestural mark-making through an algorithmic practice 10:39 - The power of messy ideas and an unrestricted output space 15:01 - Where the art lies 16:30 - The curation process behind From Noise 18:21 - Thinking about how the work exists physically 22:55 - Unpacking an artist's need to create and experiment 24:24 - Sketching with code and the genesis of From Noise 27:22 - The pressure in a series-based format 28:59 - Avoiding trends and examining the impact of new technologies 30:50 - Edward Hopper and a lesson in authenticity 33:30 - Detaching from social media 35:20 - What represents personal success 36:30 - Agnes Martin and going all in on the work 37:42 - On Marfa, community and the future of digital art 39:28 - Tyler's personal collection and its impact on his work 41:09 - Rejecting the idea of persona as a brand 42:30 - Exploring the different stereotypes around digital and physical artists 46:15 - The cultural influence of the computer https://www.tylerxhobbs.com Tyler Hobbs Studio: https://x.com/tylerxhobbsTyler Hobbs on Messy Ideas: https://www.tylerxhobbs.com/words/direction-reaction-and-messy-ideas

Nov 14, 2025 • 1h 23min
Eli Scheinman: digital art coming to Art Basel Miami
Eli Scheinman, an operator in the digital art ecosystem, shared his insights on bridging digital and traditional art. He discussed the Zero 10 initiative at Art Basel Miami, aimed at nurturing a new audience for digital art amidst market challenges. Eli emphasized the importance of embracing the quirks of crypto culture and the evolution of galleries, highlighting how artists like Beeple are changing the landscape. He also shared plans for expanding Zero 10 and creating long-lasting connections with collectors through engaging on-site experiences.

Nov 7, 2025 • 51min
OSF: from a doodle to a $100 million token
00:30 - Welcome OSF 01:40 - Coping with volatility and market panic 03:16 - The origins of RektGuy 06:15 - Managing impostor syndrome 09:15 - A community born in the bear market 10:55 - Pushing against societal definitions of an artist 12:56 - From PFP collection to drinks company 14:19 - The importance of branching out from NFTs 16:50 - Creating brand identity out of the art 19:20 - The pros and cons of launching a token 22:55 - An additive rather than extractive approach 25:21 - The evolution of brand 27:05 - From web3 to the traditional market 30:17 - Riding the wave of crypto adoption 36:08 - The power of organic growth 39:35 - Building a token around identity rather than utility 43:40 - Collecting and a.c.k. 44:37 - The inevitability of digital art 47:13 - Verse rundown OSF: https://x.com/osf_rektRekt Drinks: https://x.com/rektdrinks a.c.k: https://x.com/lphacentaurikid artie galerie: https://x.com/artiegalerieBangarang: https://verse.works/exhibitions/bangarang-week1Petra Cortright: https://x.com/petcortrightBurnt Umber Broken Silver American Spirit: https://verse.works/series/burnt-umber-broken-silver-american-spirit-by-petra-cortrighttinysoul: https://x.com/tinysoulgame Level 1 https://verse.works/series/level-1-by-tiny-soul


