

Product Chats Podcast
Pragmatic Institute
Pragmatic Live’s Product Chat is a podcast focused on tackling the biggest challenges facing today‘s product management, product marketing, and other market and data-driven professionals with some of the best minds in the industry.
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Jul 7, 2023 • 56min
Decoding Customer Satisfaction with Evan Klein
"Understanding precisely why your users are happy or frustrated should inform the product roadmap and your continuous improvement efforts are likely to enhance your company's reputation." - Evan Klein
In this product chat, Evan Klein, Founder and President of Satrix Solutions, shares insights on understanding customer behavior and its impact on business success.
The conversation revolves around the importance of data-driven decision-making, focusing on key data points businesses should monitor. Evan also emphasizes the significance of staying attuned to customer sentiment and discusses the best practices for obtaining unbiased and unfiltered feedback from customers.
In this presentation, Evan discusses:
Benefits of a strong user experience
The purpose and how to conduct a key driver analysis
Why humans (not machines or AI) should be responsible for thematic analyses
Risks of data quality and reliability
Who should conduct customer interviews and other best practices
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Jun 30, 2023 • 32min
Throwback - Too Much too Soon? - Subscription Models and Revenue Retention
In this episode of Pragmatic Live, our very own Diane Pierson, Pragmatic Institute instructor, is joined by Joe Douress, published author and managing director for Brittish Medical Publishing for the Americas, to discuss how to better leverage subscription models at the right time to ensure customer and revenue retention.
Don't forget! - Each and every Friday, we hold live AMA's that you can take part in!
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Jun 23, 2023 • 24min
Mastering the Voice of the Customer: A Conversation with Aneri Shah
“Your best messaging is often going to be the messaging that a customer gives to you.” - Aneri Shah
In this episode, Rebecca Kalogeris interviews Aneri Shah, the head of B2B marketing at Ethos and a seasoned product marketing professional.
They delve deep into the importance of understanding your buyers and capturing the 'voice of the customer.' Shah brings forth her experiences from working with tech giants like Microsoft, Meta and insurtech company Ethos to shed light on successful product marketing strategies.
In this episode, Aneri further explains:
The vital importance of deeply understanding your buyers for successful product marketing.
How and where to utilize the voice of the customer
The real value of in-product communication
How she uses AI to help with messaging
If you want to delve deeper into these topics and understand how to make your products more customer-centric, enroll in Pragmatic Institute's Market course. You’ll learn how to thoroughly understand your buyers and how they like to buy so you can build the product marketing strategies that deliver results.
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Jun 16, 2023 • 31min
The Power of Curiosity and Market Research
“Even one conversation with one customer can be so impactful to what we can deliver.” - Daniel Alleyne
In this episode of Product Chats, Rebecca Kalogeris, VP of product strategy at Pragmatic Institute, interviews Daniel Alleyne, a former Deloitte consultant and current product manager at Ivy Charging Network.
The discussion centers around Daniel’s non-linear journeys to product management and highlights the significant impact of curiosity and market research.
They discuss:
The pervasive nature of imposter syndrome in product roles, particularly among those who have followed non-traditional paths, and its role in fostering ongoing learning and personal growth.
Effective strategies to underline the importance of market research and secure buy-in from stakeholders and leaders.
Approaches to building trust within organizations to garner the time and resources necessary for comprehensive market research.
Techniques to continually demonstrate value during the market research process, ensuring sustained support and investment.
Interested in diving deeper into market research and building your product management skills? Enroll in Pragmatic’s Foundations course, where you’ll thoroughly understand your buyers and how they like to buy so you can build the product marketing strategies that deliver results.
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Jun 9, 2023 • 36min
Decoding Data-Driven Decisions with Paul Meresanu
“Break the communication barriers to your organization with data.” - Paul Meresanu
In this episode, Georgina Donahue, director of community at Pragmatic Institute interviews Paul Meresanu, the director of product management at Jedox Cloud Platform, on incorporating data into product strategies.
Paul Meresanu is an experienced product leader with knowledge in leading product management teams in software, SaaS, and B2B companies on a global scale, ranging from small startups to established enterprises. So listen in while Paul shares stories demonstrating why data is a powerful ally for product managers.
Paul is also a 2023 ambassador for the Pragmatic Alumni Community. He leads the “Data Insights” group.
In this episode Georgina and Paul discuss:
Using data to make decisions when choosing a path for a product or starting a new product?
How to encode and decode qualitative data
Tools for managing qualitative data
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Jun 2, 2023 • 53min
How to Build Roadmap Alignment
Your product roadmap serves as more than just a mere document. It acts as a powerful conduit, effectively communicating your vision and strategy to key stakeholders, partners, and customers. Neglecting to provide realistic, relevant, and up-to-date information within your roadmap can lead to missed opportunities, wasted time, and potential revenue loss.
In this episode, Mina Hanna, a senior product manager in FinTech at Verizon, shares invaluable strategies and approaches for effectively implementing roadmaps.
Mina emphasizes the importance of strategy alignment, understanding business objectives, stakeholder management and effective communication.
During this episode, Mina:
Provides practical examples and insights on creating roadmap clarity
Explains setting realistic timelines
Demonstrates collaborative tools
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May 26, 2023 • 23min
In the Sales Trenches: How Product Marketers Build Credibility
“I would love for marketers to get involved in a couple of sales demos and commit to it, not just listen in. I think that would be uncomfortable for a lot of people, and that means that you're learning.” - Ross Cranwell
In this episode of Pragmatic Live, Rebecca Kalogeris, VP of Product for Pragmatic Institute, interviews Ross Cranwell, the CEO and co-founder of Milk Video, a video-editing platform that helps product marketers quickly repurpose their long-form video and audio content into short-form content assets to increase reach and engagement.
In this episode, Rebecca and Ross discuss:
How product marketers can build credibility
The unique challenges B2B product marketers face (especially when trying to connect marketing efforts to revenue)
Why product marketers should participate in sales calls
Do you want to learn how to measure your strategies against the metrics that matter most to your organization? Enroll in Market.
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May 19, 2023 • 13min
Throwback - From Roadmap to Revenue
In this great throwback episode, pricing guru and long-time Pragmatic partner Mark Stiving covers three key methods you can use to get the most profitable products to the market as quickly as possible.
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May 12, 2023 • 28min
Tested Strategies for Raising Prices and Increasing Revenue for Products
"Your customers are looking at your product and asking for discounts. The key is to demonstrate the value of your product so that they understand the price is justified."
- Mark Stiving, Chief Pricing Officer for Impact Pricing
In this episode of the Pragmatic Live, host Rebecca Kalogeris, Vice President of Product at Pragmatic Institute, interviews Mark Stiving, Ph.D., Chief Pricing Officer for Impact Pricing, who shares six ways to raise product prices effectively.
They discuss pricing strategies such as focusing on products that are add-ons, using market segmentation to adjust prices, and creating a new product version by taking away some features and charging a lower price. These strategies can help companies increase revenue without causing too much disruption or risking losing customers.
The conversation contains valuable insights and practical tips to help professionals elevate their products, company, and career. Tune in to this episode to learn more about effective pricing strategies and take your product management skills to the next level.
Do you want to learn how to be more market-driven? Enroll in Foundations
You’ll learn how to understand the market and its problems, use that knowledge to build and sell products people want to buy, and master the Pragmatic Framework to bring successful products to market.
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May 5, 2023 • 35min
Turning Knowledge into Impact: How Pragmatic Courses Drive Organizational Change
“We're not looking for the learning itself; we're looking for that behavior. We want that application. That is where the real value is for any organization or business.” - Erica Sutula
What makes Pragmatic’s courses effective and impactful? In this episode of Pragmatic Live, Rebecca Kalogeris, VP of Product for Pragmatic Institute, and Erica Sutula answer that question.
Erica is a passionate learner and an expert in creating learning experiences that motivate and engage adults. She finds joy in exploring new subjects and acquiring knowledge and loves nothing more than sharing that knowledge with others in a way that inspires and motivates them.
They discuss:
What is instructional design
How Pragmatic helps students implement their training after they’ve completed a course
The impact collaborative learning has on outcomes
What is problem-based learning
Why certification exams help with the long-term transfer of knowledge and skills
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With 7.5 hours of lectures, group discussions, and practical exercises, they'll gain the skills and tools needed to become a market-driven product professional.
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