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11:FS
Fintech Insider is your ultimate guide to the world of finance and fintech from 11:FS - the leading independent fintech consultancy, recognised five times with the British Bank Award for Consultancy of the Year.Our expert hosts, with real industry experience, are joined by the biggest decision-makers, VCs, and reporters from across financial services including Visa, Monzo, Nationwide, JPMorgan Chase, Wise, the Financial Times, and more to discuss breaking news and deep dive into the biggest topics and trends within the industry.Our weekly news show drops every Monday and tackles the biggest news stories across M&A, open banking, embedded finance, payments, regulation and more. Then, every Thursday our Insights show dives deeper into the hottest topics shaping the industry like AI, regulation, Big Tech, the cost of living crisis, and more. Whether you’re already immersed in the world of financial services, or just keen to learn more, this is the #1 podcast for you.Want to get involved in the conversation?Connect with us now on LinkedIn, Instagram and TikTok
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May 4, 2020 • 1h 3min
423. News: Global bank profits tumble as US deposits grow
Our expert hosts, Simon Taylor and Adam Davis, are joined by some great guests to talk about the most notable fintech, financial services and banking news from the past week. This week's guests include:
Iana Dimitrova, CEO at OpenPayd
Caroline Casey, VP of Innovation, Partnerships & Labs at Mastercard
Jamie Campbell, CEO at Fronted
We cover the following stories from the fintech and financial services space:
UK Chancellor announces 100-percent backed coronavirus business loans 03:24
Coronavirus cuts HSBC profits in half 14.00
Coronavirus drives up deposits at US banks 25:17
Monzo applies for US banking licence 33.31
BCR offers new details on grant allocations 41:48
FIS starts fintech venture fund - 48:18
Animal Crossing slashes interest rates to near-zero 56:28
We also hear exclusively from Asif Ramji, Chief Growth Officer at FIS, about their newly announced fintech venture fund.
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This podcast is also brought to you by Equinix. Equinix is the world's largest data center & colocation provider, enabling fastest application performance, lowest latency and a digital ecosystem for financial services. Its platform of 200+ data centres worldwide protects, connects and empowers the mission-critical infrastructure for over 10,000 businesses.
The COVID-19 pandemic has created an immediate financial and operational crisis, permanently reshaping the financial services industry. This change must be swift and unavoidable - check out our research report to find out more: Info.11fs.com/covid19
Fintech Insider by 11:FS is a podcast dedicated to all things fintech, banking, technology and financial services. Hosted by a rotation of 11:FS experts including David Brear, Simon Taylor, Jason Bates, Leda Glyptis and Sarah Kocianski and joined by a range of brilliant guests, we cover the latest global news, bring you interviews from industry experts or take a deep dive into subject matters such as APIs, AI or digital banking.
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May 1, 2020 • 49min
422. Insights: the impact of coronavirus on US SMB Financing
In this episode, Sam Maule, Americas MD, digs into the impact COVID-19 is having, this time specifcally on US small businesses; the options they have from banks, lenders and the government; and the ways that fintechs are trying to help.
One of the hardest hit of the economic impact of the coronavirus pandemic are small businesses and the self employed, and at the time of recording in the US, the stimulus funding had already been syndicated out.
To dig into the implications of this alongside Sam, this week's guests include:
Jane Barratt, Chief Advocacy Officer, MX
John Pitts, Policy Lead, Plaid
Jill Castilla, CEO, Citizens Bank of Edmond
Our panel also have a crack at giving some future predictions for how the current crisis could change US SMB financing long term, even after the impact of pandemic subsides.
This podcast is brought to you by Mitek (NASDAQ: MITK). Mitek is a global leader in mobile capture and digital identity verification solutions built on the latest advancements in computer vision, artificial intelligence and machine learning. Mitek’s identity verification solutions enable an enterprise to verify a user’s identity during a digital transaction, which assists businesses operating in highly regulated markets to reduce financial risk and meet regulatory requirements while increasing revenue from digital channels. Financial services, marketplaces and other organizations around the world use Mitek to reduce friction creating the digital experiences their customers expect. Mobile Deposit® and Mobile Verify® are used by millions of consumers for check deposit, new account opening and more. The company is based in San Diego with offices in New York, London, Amsterdam, Barcelona, Paris and St Petersburg. Learn more at www.miteksystems.com.
This podcast is also brought to you by Equinix. Equinix is the world's largest data center & colocation provider, enabling fastest application performance, lowest latency and a digital ecosystem for financial services. Its platform of 200+ data centres worldwide protects, connects and empowers the mission-critical infrastructure for over 10,000 businesses.
The COVID-19 pandemic has created an immediate financial and operational crisis, permanently reshaping the financial services industry. This change must be swift and unavoidable - check out our research report to find out more: Info.11fs.com/covid19
Fintech Insider by 11:FS is a podcast dedicated to all things fintech, banking, technology and financial services. Hosted by a rotation of 11:FS experts including David Brear, Simon Taylor, Jason Bates, Leda Glyptis and Sarah Kocianski and joined by a range of brilliant guests, we cover the latest global news, bring you interviews from industry experts or take a deep dive into subject matters such as APIs, AI or digital banking.
If you enjoyed this episode, don't forget to subscribe and please leave a review
Follow us on Twitter: www.twitter.com/fintechinsiders where you can ask the hosts questions, alternatively email podcasts@11fs.com!Special Guests: Jane Barratt, Jill Castilla, and John Pitts.Sponsored By:
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Apr 27, 2020 • 1h 10min
421. News: US SMEs await new stimulus funds as fintech valuations soar
Our expert hosts, Sam Maule and Simon Taylor, are joined by some great guests on both sides of the Atlantic to talk about the most notable and global fintech, financial services and banking news from the past week. This week's guests include:
Lance Homer, Global Head of Digital Payments and Banking Ecosystem, Equinix
Anna Irrera, Fintech Correspondent and Financial Companies Team Leader at Reuters
Adrian Blair, CEO at Receipt Bank
We cover the following stories from the fintech and financial services space, both related to COVID-19 and unrelated:
Congress preps new stimulus funding - 3:38
Mark Cuban advocates wait-and-see, cash-heavy investing approach - 15:24
How the COVID-19 pandemic will accelerate digital financial services - 26:45
Robinhood nears the end of its latest funding round 40.10
Stripe raises $600 million in new funding 46:53
Leaked pictures show Google’s new smart debit card - 52:32
Shake Shack returning $10 million SMB loan 59:57
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The COVID-19 pandemic has created an immediate financial and operational crisis, permanently reshaping the financial services industry. This change must be swift and unavoidable - check out our research report to find out more: Info.11fs.com/covid19
Fintech Insider by 11:FS is a podcast dedicated to all things fintech, banking, technology and financial services. Hosted by a rotation of 11:FS experts including David Brear, Simon Taylor, Jason Bates, Leda Glyptis and Sarah Kocianski and joined by a range of brilliant guests, we cover the latest global news, bring you interviews from industry experts or take a deep dive into subject matters such as APIs, AI or digital banking.
If you enjoyed this episode, don't forget to subscribe and please leave a review
Follow us on Twitter: www.twitter.com/fintechinsiders where you can ask the hosts questions, alternatively email podcasts@11fs.com!Special Guests: Adrian Blair, Anna Irrera, and Lance Homer.Sponsored By:
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Apr 23, 2020 • 57min
420. Insights: How the COVID-19 pandemic will accelerate digital financial services
In an all 11s special, David Brear, Simon Taylor and Sarah Kocianski sit down with Benjamin Ensor, Director of Research at 11:FS, to talk about COVID-19 and the short, medium and long term implications the pandemic will have on financial services.
Business as usual is over. Our recently released report has revealed how the COVID 19 pandemic has created an immediate operational crisis in financial services firms that have so far ignored the digital imperative. The world’s economies have gone into reverse, we're on the precipice of a global economic recession and being truly digital is no longer just a 'nice to have'. So what does this all mean for the financial services industry? Will this be a time for reinvention and will established firms be able to keep up?
Tune in to hear our panel's insights, predictions and how they see the impact of the pandemic playing out over time.
This podcast is brought to you by Mitek. Smart, automated and fast. Mitek helps you reduce fraud, create trust, and offer your customers the experience they value. Hundreds of AI-based analytics and face comparison algorithms work together to verify a user is truly the owner of their ID document in order to enable secure customer acquisition, fast money movement and prevent account takeover fraud. Document verification and facial biometrics work hand-in-hand to verify identities of users to provide them with a secure and convenient onboarding process.
This podcast is also brought to you by Equinix. Equinix is the world's largest data center & colocation provider, enabling fastest application performance, lowest latency and a digital ecosystem for financial services. Its platform of 200+ data centres worldwide protects, connects and empowers the mission-critical infrastructure for over 10,000 businesses.
The COVID-19 pandemic has created an immediate financial and operational crisis, permanently reshaping the financial services industry. This change must be swift and unavoidable - check out our research report to find out more.
Fintech Insider by 11:FS is a podcast dedicated to all things fintech, banking, technology and financial services. Hosted by a rotation of 11:FS experts including David Brear, Simon Taylor, Jason Bates, Leda Glyptis and Sarah Kocianski and joined by a range of brilliant guests, we cover the latest global news, bring you interviews from industry experts or take a deep dive into subject matters such as APIs, AI or digital banking.
If you enjoyed this episode, don't forget to subscribe and please leave a review
Follow us on Twitter: www.twitter.com/fintechinsiders where you can ask the hosts questions, alternatively email podcasts@11fs.com!Special Guest: Benjamin Ensor.Sponsored By:
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Apr 20, 2020 • 1h 6min
419. News: Fintechs step up to distribute relief funding
Our expert hosts, Sarah Kocianski and Simon Taylor, are joined by some great guests to talk about the most notable fintech, financial services and banking news from the past week. This week's guests include:
Shafali Gupta - VP Strategy and Ops at Fluidly
Roisin Levine - Head of Banks at Flux
Erin Platts - Head of EMEA and President of UK Branch at Silicon Valley Bank
We cover the following stories from the fintech and financial services space:
Starling Bank and OakNorth join coronavirus loan programme (02:53)
PayPal, Intuit and Square to issue coronavirus relief in the US (16:15)
US government in talks with Onfido about immunity passports (24:28)
Morgan Stanley leads $34 million round in 86 400 (34:43)
Visa invests in open banking and compliance platform Railsbank (42:13)
Marcus launches point-of-sale lending product (48:57)
A women-only neobank is coming to Brazil (56:03)
This podcast is brought to you by Mitek. Smart, automated and fast. Mitek helps you reduce fraud, create trust, and offer your customers the experience they value. Hundreds of AI-based analytics and face comparison algorithms work together to verify a user is truly the owner of their ID document in order to enable secure customer acquisition, fast money movement and prevent account takeover fraud. Document verification and facial biometrics work hand-in-hand to verify identities of users to provide them with a secure and convenient onboarding process.
Love fintech? Then sign up for our newsletter, Fintech in Five. A snack-sized selection of the week's biggest stories, longer reads, soundbites and more. Just visit this link to sign up! 11fs.com/newsletter
Fintech Insider by 11:FS is a podcast dedicated to all things fintech, banking, technology and financial services. Hosted by a rotation of 11:FS experts including David Brear, Simon Taylor, Jason Bates, Leda Glyptis and Sarah Kocianski and joined by a range of brilliant guests, we cover the latest global news, bring you interviews from industry experts or take a deep dive into subject matters such as APIs, AI or digital banking.
If you enjoyed this episode, don't forget to subscribe and please leave a review
Follow us on Twitter: www.twitter.com/fintechinsiders where you can ask the hosts questions, alternatively email podcasts@11fs.com!Special Guests: Erin Platts, Roisin Levine , and Shafali Gupta.Sponsored By:Links:
Starling Bank and OakNorth join coronavirus loan programme
PayPal, Intuit and Square to issue coronavirus relief in the US
US government in talks with Onfido about immunity passports
Morgan Stanley leads $34 million round in 86 400
Visa invests in open banking and compliance platform Railsbank
Marcus launches point-of-sale lending product
A women-only neobank is coming to Brazil
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Apr 17, 2020 • 49min
418. Insights: Coronavirus and the impact on SME Financing
It is no secret that probably the hardest hit of the economic impact of the coronavirus pandemic are SMEs and the self employed. In this episode, Sarah Kocianski and Simon Taylor, dig into the impact COVID-19 is having on small businesses; the options they have from banks, lenders and the government; and the ways that fintechs are trying to help.
They are joined by a panel of expert guests who are all providing solutions to this conundrum. This week's guests include:
Sam O'Connor - CEO, Coconut
Rebecca Duckworth - Chief Sales Officer, Quotevine
Ian Smith - CEO, 1pm PLC
Sarah, Simon and our guests talk through the impact Covid-19 is having on SMEs overall, what the government roll out packages are; who can lend to SMEs and how speed is of the essence.
Our panel also have a crack at giving some future predictions for how the current crisis could change SME financing in the future.
This podcast is brought to you by Mitek. Smart, automated and fast. Mitek helps you reduce fraud, create trust, and offer your customers the experience they value. Hundreds of AI-based analytics and face comparison algorithms work together to verify a user is truly the owner of their ID document in order to enable secure customer acquisition, fast money movement and prevent account takeover fraud. Document verification and facial biometrics work hand-in-hand to verify identities of users to provide them with a secure and convenient onboarding process.
Love fintech? Then sign up for our newsletter, Fintech in Five. A snack-sized selection of the week's biggest stories, longer reads, soundbites and more. Just visit this link to sign up! 11fs.com/newsletter
Fintech Insider by 11:FS is a podcast dedicated to all things fintech, banking, technology and financial services. Hosted by a rotation of 11:FS experts including David Brear, Simon Taylor, Jason Bates, Leda Glyptis and Sarah Kocianski and joined by a range of brilliant guests, we cover the latest global news, bring you interviews from industry experts or take a deep dive into subject matters such as APIs, AI or digital banking.
If you enjoyed this episode, don't forget to subscribe and please leave a review
Follow us on Twitter: www.twitter.com/fintechinsiders where you can ask the hosts questions, alternatively email podcasts@11fs.com!Special Guests: Ian Smith, Rebecca Duckworth, and Sam O'Connor.Sponsored By:
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Apr 13, 2020 • 1h 6min
417. News: SoFi snaps up Galileo for $1.2b
Our expert hosts, David Brear and Simon Taylor, are joined by some great guests to talk about the most notable fintech, financial services and banking news from the past week. This week's guests include:
Tanya Andreasyan, Managing Director and Editor-in-Chief at Fintech Futures
Izabella Kaminska, FT Alphaville Editor at the Financial Times
Olly Betts, Co-Founder and CEO, OpenWrks
We cover the following stories from the fintech and financial services space:
SoFi buys Galileo for $1.2bn (03:17)
Kabbage suspends credit for small-business clients (11:21)
Banks struggle to keep up with tidal wave of business loan applications for covid relief (19:29)
New Banking Competition Remedies pool announced as Nationwide abandons business banking (27:40)
Fintechs take action to combat effects of coronavirus (34:54)
FCA allows selfies for identity checks (58:20)
This podcast is brought to you by Mitek. Smart, automated and fast. Mitek helps you reduce fraud, create trust, and offer your customers the experience they value. Hundreds of AI-based analytics and face comparison algorithms work together to verify a user is truly the owner of their ID document in order to enable secure customer acquisition, fast money movement and prevent account takeover fraud. Document verification and facial biometrics work hand-in-hand to verify identities of users to provide them with a secure and convenient onboarding process.
Love fintech? Then sign up for our newsletter, Fintech in Five. A snack-sized selection of the week's biggest stories, longer reads, soundbites and more. Just visit this link to sign up! 11fs.com/newsletter
Fintech Insider by 11:FS is a podcast dedicated to all things fintech, banking, technology and financial services. Hosted by a rotation of 11:FS experts including David Brear, Simon Taylor, Jason Bates, Leda Glyptis and Sarah Kocianski and joined by a range of brilliant guests, we cover the latest global news, bring you interviews from industry experts or take a deep dive into subject matters such as APIs, AI or digital banking.
If you enjoyed this episode, don't forget to subscribe and please leave a review
Follow us on Twitter: www.twitter.com/fintechinsiders where you can ask the hosts questions, alternatively email podcasts@11fs.com!Special Guests: Izabella Kaminska, Olly Betts, and Tanya Andreasyan.Sponsored By:Links:
SoFi buys Galileo for $1.2bn
Kabbage suspends credit for small-business clients
Banks struggle to keep up with tidal wave of business loan applications for covid relief -
New Banking Competition Remedies pool announced as Nationwide abandons business banking
Fintechs take action to combat effects of coronavirus
FCA allows selfies for identity checks
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Apr 10, 2020 • 38min
416. Interviews: Varo Money - the first fintech to get FDIC approval
In today's episode, we bring you an interview with Wesley Wright, COO at Varo Money. Joining Sam Maule remotely, the pair kick things off with the story of how Varo Money came to be and how they aim to improve financial health and financial inclusion. Having now been approved for FDIC insurance, we hear about the process with regulators, why they decided to apply when other fintechs haven't, and what this means for the future of Varo Money and their ambitions. With our current environment, Sam and Wesley also touch on how to staying focused during a time of crisis, solving critical problems and the importance of listening to your customers at times of uncertainty.
Tune in for industry insights, a wealth of experience and much much more!
This podcast is brought to you by Mitek. Smart, automated and fast. Mitek helps you reduce fraud, create trust, and offer your customers the experience they value. Hundreds of AI-based analytics and face comparison algorithms work together to verify a user is truly the owner of their ID document in order to enable secure customer acquisition, fast money movement and prevent account takeover fraud. Document verification and facial biometrics work hand-in-hand to verify identities of users to provide them with a secure and convenient onboarding process.
Love fintech? Then sign up for our newsletter, Fintech in Five. A snack-sized selection of the week's biggest stories, longer reads, soundbites and more. Just visit this link to sign up! 11fs.com/newsletter
Fintech Insider by 11:FS is a podcast dedicated to all things fintech, banking, technology and financial services. Hosted by a rotation of 11:FS experts including David Brear, Simon Taylor, Jason Bates, Leda Glyptis and Sarah Kocianski and joined by a range of brilliant guests, we cover the latest global news, bring you interviews from industry experts or take a deep dive into subject matters such as APIs, AI or digital banking.
If you enjoyed this episode, don't forget to subscribe and please leave a review
Follow us on Twitter: www.twitter.com/fintechinsiders where you can ask the hosts questions, alternatively email podcasts@11fs.com!Special Guest: Wesley Wright.Sponsored By:
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Apr 6, 2020 • 1h
415. News: Major US banks protect employees as start-ups stall
Our expert hosts, David Brear and Eric Fulwiler, are joined by some great guests to talk about the most notable fintech, financial services and banking news from the past week. This week's guests include:
Allison Esposito Medina - CEO and Founder of Tech Ladies
Jonah Crane - Partner at Klaros Group
Nonita Verma - East Coast Banking Partnerships Lead at Nova Credit
We cover the following stories from the fintech and financial services space:
US banks promise not to lay-off workers during coronavirus pandemic (06:36)
Venture-backed start-ups may not be eligible for small-business stimulus (17:54)
Square and PayPal offer to extend stimulus payments to the unbanked (27:48)
Microsoft partners with Plaid on Excel finance tool (35:21)
Morgan Stanley’s trading portal suffers outage (43:53)
Marcus releases fixed-term savings bond (50:41)
Does this April Fools prank go too far? (53:51)
This podcast is brought to you by Mitek. Smart, automated and fast. Mitek helps you reduce fraud, create trust, and offer your customers the experience they value. Hundreds of AI-based analytics and face comparison algorithms work together to verify a user is truly the owner of their ID document in order to enable secure customer acquisition, fast money movement and prevent account takeover fraud. Document verification and facial biometrics work hand-in-hand to verify identities of users to provide them with a secure and convenient onboarding process.
Love fintech? Then sign up for our newsletter, Fintech in Five. A snack-sized selection of the week's biggest stories, longer reads, soundbites and more. Just visit this link to sign up! 11fs.com/newsletter
Fintech Insider by 11:FS is a podcast dedicated to all things fintech, banking, technology and financial services. Hosted by a rotation of 11:FS experts including David Brear, Simon Taylor, Jason Bates, Leda Glyptis and Sarah Kocianski and joined by a range of brilliant guests, we cover the latest global news, bring you interviews from industry experts or take a deep dive into subject matters such as APIs, AI or digital banking.
If you enjoyed this episode, don't forget to subscribe and please leave a review
Follow us on Twitter: www.twitter.com/fintechinsiders where you can ask the hosts questions, alternatively email podcasts@11fs.com!Special Guests: Allison Esposito Medina , Jonah Crane, and Nonita Verma .Sponsored By:Links:
US banks promise not to lay-off workers during coronavirus pandemic
Venture-backed start-ups may not be eligible for small-business stimulus
Square and PayPal offer to extend stimulus payments to the unbanked
Microsoft partners with Plaid on Excel finance tool
Morgan Stanley’s trading portal suffers outage
Marcus releases fixed-term savings bond
Does this April Fools prank go too far?
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Apr 3, 2020 • 43min
414. Interviews: Nova Credit - scoring, covid crisis and celebrity funding
In today's episode, we bring you an interview with Nicky Goulimis, co-founder and COO at Nova Credit. Joining Sam Maule remotely, the pair kick things off with the company's origin story and how Nova Credit came to be. With no previous fintech experience, we hear about how Nicky and her co-founders were fueled by their credit troubles as international students in the US to create a solution for the underbanked from across the globe.
Now working to push systemic change across the industry, Sam and Nicky also touch on Nova Credit's high-profile endorsements, the pressures of coronavirus and how their recent $50 million funding round is helping them work towards a better future of credit and credit checks.
Tune in for industry insights, a wealth of experience and much much more!
This podcast is brought to you by Mitek. Smart, automated and fast. Mitek helps you reduce fraud, create trust, and offer your customers the experience they value. Hundreds of AI-based analytics and face comparison algorithms work together to verify a user is truly the owner of their ID document in order to enable secure customer acquisition, fast money movement and prevent account takeover fraud. Document verification and facial biometrics work hand-in-hand to verify identities of users to provide them with a secure and convenient onboarding process.
Love fintech? Then sign up for our newsletter, Fintech in Five. A snack-sized selection of the week's biggest stories, longer reads, soundbites and more. Just visit this link to sign up! 11fs.com/newsletter
Fintech Insider by 11:FS is a podcast dedicated to all things fintech, banking, technology and financial services. Hosted by a rotation of 11:FS experts including David Brear, Simon Taylor, Jason Bates, Leda Glyptis and Sarah Kocianski and joined by a range of brilliant guests, we cover the latest global news, bring you interviews from industry experts or take a deep dive into subject matters such as APIs, AI or digital banking.
If you enjoyed this episode, don't forget to subscribe and please leave a review
Follow us on Twitter: www.twitter.com/fintechinsiders where you can ask the hosts questions, alternatively email podcasts@11fs.com!Special Guest: Nicky Goulimis.Sponsored By:
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