
The Symbolic World
Jonathan Pageau looks at symbolism in all its forms, from its source in sacred stories and images to contemporary culture and ultimately how it shapes the world we encounter.
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May 6, 2025 • 1h 36min
392 - Richard Rohlin - Universal History: Symbols From the Edge of the World
In this engaging discussion, Richard Rohlin, an expert on universal history and symbolism, delves into the enigmatic Voyage of St. Brendan. He explores encounters with sea creatures and a giant maiden, weaving themes of beauty, death, and resurrection. The conversation links ancient narratives with contemporary struggles, touching on the importance of ritual and spiritual symbolism. Rohlin also examines the Nephilim and Celtic storytelling, inviting listeners to reflect on identity, divine mysteries, and the mythical realms inhabited by leprechauns and dwarves.

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Apr 29, 2025 • 17min
391 - The Controversy over "Christ is King"
A recent study sparked a heated debate about the phrase 'Christ is King,' linking it to antisemitism and modern political tensions. The discussion dives into its symbolism, exploring its historical roots and relevance today. Identity's complex nature is examined, highlighting how declarations can foster both inclusion and exclusion. The conversation also critiques nationalism, urging a broader understanding that transcends borders. Listeners are invited to deepen their insight into symbolic thinking through an upcoming masterclass.

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Apr 23, 2025 • 1h 57min
390 - Genesis: Symbolism in the Creation Story
In this discussion, Jordan Peterson, a renowned Canadian psychologist and author, unpacks the Genesis creation story as a symbolic map of identity and purpose. He emphasizes the significance of rituals and shared identity in shaping human interactions. Peterson critiques contemporary views of intelligence and reality, advocating for a deeper understanding of consciousness. He delves into the interplay of chaos and order, and how our perceptions and judgments are influenced by the divine patterns inherent in existence.

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Apr 16, 2025 • 57min
389 - Joe Allen - Transhumanism and the War Against Humanity
In this discussion, Joe Allen, author of 'Dark Aeon' and tech editor for Steve Bannon, unpacks the unsettling alliance between transhumanism and politics. He explores the dual nature of AI as both a solution and a threat, raising questions about our dependence on technology. Allen delves into ethical dilemmas tied to transhumanism, emphasizing the widening gap between classes and the potential for technology to dehumanize. He warns of a future where tools define humanity rather than serve it, urging a global consciousness around these rapid changes.

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Apr 7, 2025 • 50min
388 - Mary Harrington - Identity After Postmodernism
In this conversation, Mary Harrington, a thought-provoking writer on identity and technology, shares her insights on the evolution of self from ancient soul concepts to the challenges of digital personas. She explores how technology and AI reshape personal identity, advocating for a return to the soul to clarify purpose. The discussion highlights how digital habits alter consciousness, the cultural influence of memes, and the complexities of navigating identity in a postmodern world. Harrington emphasizes AI's limitations and its alignment with human desires, offering a rich perspective on modern existential questions.

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Apr 2, 2025 • 42min
387 - Severance: When Hierarchy Breaks Down
Dive into the surreal world of 'Severance' as the podcast unravels its themes of identity and isolation. The exploration of Mark's emotional severance after his wife's death resonates deeply, reflecting the widespread feelings of disconnection experienced during the pandemic. Discover how fragmented hierarchies impact the characters’ lives, revealing the darker implications of a society struggling with unity and love amidst chaos. This thought-provoking journey prompts reflection on our own identities and human connections.

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Mar 26, 2025 • 30min
386 - Snow White (2025) Is a Disaster, But...
The discussion kicks off with a candid review of the new Snow White live-action remake, revealing initial skepticism about its storytelling choices. The hosts dive into the disjointed narrative, critiquing how modern political correctness clashes with timeless themes of beauty and nostalgia. They express disappointment in the film's incoherence while longing for a return to authentic storytelling. The conversation wraps up with insights into their own reimagining of classic tales, aiming to breathe new life into cherished narratives.

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Mar 22, 2025 • 1h 6min
385 - Peter Leithart - The Bible As a Way of Seeing
In this engaging discussion, Peter Leithart, President of Theopolis Institute, shares insights on biblical typology and the transformative nature of liturgy. He emphasizes the interconnectedness of biblical narratives and how they resonate with modern life. The impact of sacramental practices in understanding scripture is explored, alongside the relevance of allegorical interpretation in today’s secular world. Leithart also highlights the mission of Theopolis in fostering a deeper scriptural engagement and unity among Christians, advocating for a richer comprehension of faith.

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Mar 15, 2025 • 1h 41min
384 - Gregg Hurwitz - Why We Tell Stories (Ralston College)
Bestselling author Gregg Hurwitz, known for his thrilling novels and comics, shares his insights on storytelling and creativity. He discusses the powerful role of art in shaping culture and the importance of authentic narratives, emphasizing how personal experiences enrich storytelling. The conversation also touches on the dynamics of creative collaboration, the balance between fame and authenticity, and the transformative journey of pursuing one's artistic passions. Hurwitz inspires listeners to embrace their creative journeys and seek genuine connections.

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Mar 9, 2025 • 1h 15min
383 - John Vervaeke and Chris Mastropietro - Awakening from the Meaning Crisis
Join John Vervaeke, a cognitive scientist focused on meaning and philosophy, and Christopher Mastropietro, known for simplifying complex ideas, as they unpack their work on the 'Awakening from the Meaning Crisis' project. They explore the delicate balance between accessible language and intellectual depth, stressing the power of narrative in understanding philosophical concepts. Their discussion touches on the impact of their video series on academic dialogue, the communal nature of meaning, and the transformative power of art and experiences.
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