
The Symbolic World
Jonathan Pageau looks at symbolism in all its forms, from its source in sacred stories and images to contemporary culture and ultimately how it shapes the world we encounter.
Latest episodes

Jul 19, 2025 • 1h 36min
402 - Universal History - Dcn. Seraphim Rohlin - The Spirits Beneath America: Fairies and Founding Fathers
In this engaging discussion, Deacon Seraphim Rohlin delves into the fascinating realm of fairies and spirits, exploring their ties to American identity. He connects the founding of the U.S. with ancient myths, particularly the tragic hero Oedipus, while contemplating the dangers presented by mythical beings. The conversation also touches on the cultural significance of ancestral spirits and how historical narratives shape contemporary America. With a blend of humor and deep insight, Rohlin highlights the interplay between mythology and national identity.

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Jul 8, 2025 • 1h 15min
401 - Robin Hood: The Original Green Man (Nottingham talk)
Delve into the rich symbolism of Robin Hood and his connections to figures like King David and legends from various cultures. Explore themes of rebellion, morality, and the trickster archetype, revealing how outlaws and jesters can embody deeper truths. Reflect on the interplay of authority and subversion, uncovering the transformative power of serving the marginalized. The discussion also highlights the importance of storytelling and cultural memory, inviting listeners to find meaning in both secular and sacred narratives.

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Jun 30, 2025 • 36min
400 - A Dangerous Movie in the Best Way Possible
Join Texan filmmaker Josh David Jordan, known for his thought-provoking work El Tonto Pro Cristo, as he discusses his unique black-and-white film set in a Texas monastery. He explores the captivating themes of the Holy Fool archetype and how this film serves as a poetic meditation on beauty and spirituality. Josh shares insights on balancing cultural authenticity with artistic vision, the transformative power of imagery, and the importance of innovative storytelling in modern cinema. Learn how you can support this remarkable project through Kickstarter!

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Jun 24, 2025 • 1h 46min
399 - John Vervaeke - What Is Spirit?
Join John Vervaeke, a cognitive scientist and professor, as he dives deep into the complexity of spirit and unity. He explores how consciousness and community interact, reshaping our understanding of existence. Vervaeke discusses the intersection of AI and spirituality, offering insights on personal transformation and collective identity. He critiques modern dichotomies, advocating for a holistic view of being, while emphasizing the vital role of in-person fellowship in a digital age. Get ready for a thought-provoking discussion!

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Jun 11, 2025 • 1h 12min
398 - The Time for Orthodox Art is NOW
Explore the revival of Orthodox art as a reaction to cultural decay, where beauty and meaning reclaim their place. The discussion highlights how genuine artistic expression can transcend mere consumption and make a profound connection to spirituality. Delve into the importance of fairy tales and children's literature in nurturing creativity and family bonds. The speaker critiques modern adaptations and urges a return to traditional storytelling that enriches cultural identity. Join the journey towards artistic mastery and the transformative power of liturgy.

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May 31, 2025 • 1h 5min
397 - Nicholas Reeves - What Is Music?
In this engaging discussion, Nicholas Reeves, a composer and educator at St. Vladimir Seminary and Adelphi University, delves into the profound mysteries of music. He explores how music reflects symbolic patterns in reality and its evolution from sacred liturgies to modern dance floors. Topics include the transformative power of sound in expressing emotions, the shared communal experiences in worship, and the delicate balance between order and chaos in music. The conversation reveals music as both a personal and spiritual journey, inviting deeper connections within ourselves and our communities.

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May 23, 2025 • 52min
396 - Seraphim Hamilton - Scripture: The Key to Reality
Seraphim Hamilton, an Orthodox Christian biblical commentator with advanced degrees from Duke University, dives deep into how scripture reveals the cosmic patterns of creation. He discusses viewing the Bible as a cosmic temple and explores the transformative role of Jesus in historical narratives. Throughout the conversation, Hamilton critiques modern biblical criticism, emphasizing the rich symbolism in scripture. He links the Old and New Testaments to show their cohesive messages and announces his upcoming course that promises further insights into these profound connections.

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May 16, 2025 • 1h 7min
395 - Beauty First: Envisioning a Civilization Worth Restoring (ARC Roundtable)
Join Andrew Gould, an Orthodox church designer, Aidan Hart, a British iconographer, Martin Shaw, an author and mystic, Neil DeGraide, a musician from Dirt Poor Robins, and artist Heather Pollington as they ponder the role of beauty in civilization. They discuss how art, architecture, and music can renew culture and soul, advocating for a return to genuine artistry over political motivations. The conversation meanders through themes of love, nature, and the creative process, revealing the profound connections between beauty and human experience.

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May 16, 2025 • 37min
394 - The World War II Consensus is Breaking Down
The podcast delves into the transformative role of the 'fool' in society, as exemplified by Kanye West. It explores the complex interplay of spirituality and cultural symbolism, particularly among younger generations. The discussion challenges conventional narratives of World War II, urging a deeper understanding of its legacy. Listeners are encouraged to navigate counter-narratives thoughtfully, while promoting positive action. A rich tapestry of myths, contradictions, and societal values invites reflection on our cultural landscape.

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May 13, 2025 • 41min
393 - Wheels Within Wheels: The Universe as a Symbol
Delve into the fascinating symbolism within the vision of Ezekiel's wheels and the significance of cosmic unity. Explore the interplay of masculine and feminine energies, challenging traditional ideas of activity and passivity. Discover how various symbols, from pyramids to Christmas trees, reveal a profound interconnectedness in existence. The discussion emphasizes the duality of spiritual ascent and the complex relationships between the divine and earthly realms, illustrating the rich tapestry of symbolic meaning across cultures.