

The Symbolic World
Jonathan Pageau
Jonathan Pageau looks at symbolism in all its forms, from its source in sacred stories and images to contemporary culture and ultimately how it shapes the world we encounter.
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Oct 29, 2025 • 30min
418 - The Symbolism of the Entire Divine Comedy in the First Canto
Diving into the first canto of Dante’s Divine Comedy reveals a world of rich symbolism and layered meanings. The discussion highlights Dante's journey from chaos in the dark wood to the hope of enlightenment on the hill. Each beast symbolizes inner turmoil and the obstacles to spiritual ascent. Virgil, as Dante’s guide from the realm of pagan wisdom, signifies a bridge to higher truth. With insights into divine order and the emotional weight of the heart-as-water imagery, the analysis offers a profound glimpse into the structure of the poem.

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Oct 25, 2025 • 49min
417 - Three Things Christians Must Do to Rebuild Culture (Touchstone talk)
Explore how today's culture is fraying at the seams, offering Christians a chance for renewal. Delve into the crisis caused by a century of disruption and the hunger for continuity. Discover a threefold program: remember, celebrate, and create, aiming to rebuild culture. Jonathan emphasizes the importance of reclaiming historical memory and the role of worship in shaping art and public life. He advocates for high-quality Christian art, urging artists to adapt secular techniques while preserving truth and beauty. This is a call to transform culture through creativity!

Oct 17, 2025 • 22min
416 - Tangled: The Triumph of Self-Realization
The discussion dives into Disney's Tangled and its departure from the traditional Rapunzel narrative. It highlights themes of self-realization versus familial bonds, contrasting the original tale's focus on union with the modern emphasis on personal growth. The symbolism of hair reflects external beauty masking deeper truths, while the characters’ relationships explore the consequences of replacing meaning with pleasure. Ultimately, it critiques how this shift may weaken the story's original intent.

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Oct 10, 2025 • 25min
415 - Charlie Kirk's Assassination: We have gone beyond the pale
The podcast explores the shocking assassination of Charlie Kirk and its impact on societal unity. The host reflects on the surprising celebratory responses from some individuals and critiques media distortions surrounding Kirk's rhetoric. Historical context is provided on political violence, alongside a discussion on how both sides justify it. Insights on the danger of converting debate into enmity are shared, emphasizing the need for forgiveness and higher purpose. The conversation ultimately calls for maintaining respectful debate and guarding against radicalization.

Oct 3, 2025 • 1h 29min
414 - Dcn. Seraphim Rohlin (Universal History) - American Folk Magic and Christianity: From the Reformation to Mormonism
Deacon Seraphim Rohlin, an Orthodox scholar, delves into the intersections of magic, superstition, and Christianity in American culture. He explains how magic has persisted post-Reformation, despite efforts to eliminate ritual practices. The conversation includes the role of prayer as incantation, the historical roots of contemporary folk practices like 'granny magic,' and connections between treasure-hunting rituals and the rise of Mormonism. Rohlin also examines the blurred lines between self-serving manifestation and genuine prayer, revealing the ongoing need for enchantment in modern life.

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Sep 25, 2025 • 48min
413 - Heidi White - The Divided Soul: Duty and Desire in Literature and Life
Join author and educator Heidi White as she delves into the essence of her book, exploring the tension between duty and desire through literature and life. Heidi analyzes the prodigal son, illustrating how this age-old narrative reflects our inner conflicts. She discusses how stories from pop culture and classics reveal this duality, exemplifying characters like Iron Man and Captain America. With deep insights, Heidi invites listeners to reconcile their desires and duties for holistic joy, culminating in the unifying message of Christ's sacrificial love.

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Sep 22, 2025 • 27min
412 - The Age of Self-Esteem
Explore how the modern notion of self-esteem has reshaped culture since the 1960s, igniting rebellion and consumerism. Discover the impact of the 'be yourself' mantra on adolescence, leading to identity crises and extremes. Delve into the contrast between self-esteem and the Christian principle of humility, emphasizing gratitude and service as pathways to true joy. A thought-provoking conversation on reclaiming identity and purpose in today's world.

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Sep 20, 2025 • 1h 24min
411 - Dr. Michael Levin & Dr. John Vervaeke - Brave New Biology: Intelligence Trumps DNA
In this discussion, Dr. Michael Levin, a pioneering biologist at Tufts, delves into how cell collectives exhibit intelligence through bioelectric patterns and memory. He shares fascinating insights on regenerative capabilities, including programmable regeneration using bioelectric interfaces. Dr. John Vervaeke, a cognitive scientist and philosopher, amplifies the conversation by examining embodiment beyond physical forms and ethical implications of manipulating biological systems. Together, they challenge conventional views on intelligence and biological integration.

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Sep 12, 2025 • 46min
410 - Fractals: The World Is Full of Meaning (Midwestuary talk)
Dive into the mesmerizing world of fractals and their significance in understanding reality. Explore the divine interplay of spirit and matter, uncovering patterns that reveal a greater purpose in chaos. Discover how love and commitment within communities nurture unity and belonging, proving essential for fostering open dialogue. This captivating discussion weaves together individual identities with shared motivations, illustrating the profound connections that shape our lives.

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Sep 5, 2025 • 26min
409 - The Strange Symbolism of K-Pop Demon Hunters: Shame, Attention, LGBT, Jung
Dive into the unexpected world of K-Pop Demon Hunters, where celebrity culture clashes with personal identity. The discussion uncovers how shame shapes social behavior and the importance of humility in community building. Explore the film's rich narrative, which confronts darker aspects of humanity while advocating for positive storytelling. The significance of reclaiming cultural narratives through innovative narratives is emphasized, inviting listeners to reflect on self-esteem and the impact of media on personal struggles.


