

The Symbolic World
Jonathan Pageau
Jonathan Pageau looks at symbolism in all its forms, from its source in sacred stories and images to contemporary culture and ultimately how it shapes the world we encounter.
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Oct 3, 2025 • 1h 29min
414 - Dcn. Seraphim Rohlin (Universal History) - American Folk Magic and Christianity: From the Reformation to Mormonism
Deacon Seraphim Rohlin, an Orthodox scholar, delves into the intersections of magic, superstition, and Christianity in American culture. He explains how magic has persisted post-Reformation, despite efforts to eliminate ritual practices. The conversation includes the role of prayer as incantation, the historical roots of contemporary folk practices like 'granny magic,' and connections between treasure-hunting rituals and the rise of Mormonism. Rohlin also examines the blurred lines between self-serving manifestation and genuine prayer, revealing the ongoing need for enchantment in modern life.

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Sep 25, 2025 • 48min
413 - Heidi White - The Divided Soul: Duty and Desire in Literature and Life
Join author and educator Heidi White as she delves into the essence of her book, exploring the tension between duty and desire through literature and life. Heidi analyzes the prodigal son, illustrating how this age-old narrative reflects our inner conflicts. She discusses how stories from pop culture and classics reveal this duality, exemplifying characters like Iron Man and Captain America. With deep insights, Heidi invites listeners to reconcile their desires and duties for holistic joy, culminating in the unifying message of Christ's sacrificial love.

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Sep 22, 2025 • 27min
412 - The Age of Self-Esteem
Explore how the modern notion of self-esteem has reshaped culture since the 1960s, igniting rebellion and consumerism. Discover the impact of the 'be yourself' mantra on adolescence, leading to identity crises and extremes. Delve into the contrast between self-esteem and the Christian principle of humility, emphasizing gratitude and service as pathways to true joy. A thought-provoking conversation on reclaiming identity and purpose in today's world.

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Sep 20, 2025 • 1h 24min
411 - Dr. Michael Levin & Dr. John Vervaeke - Brave New Biology: Intelligence Trumps DNA
In this discussion, Dr. Michael Levin, a pioneering biologist at Tufts, delves into how cell collectives exhibit intelligence through bioelectric patterns and memory. He shares fascinating insights on regenerative capabilities, including programmable regeneration using bioelectric interfaces. Dr. John Vervaeke, a cognitive scientist and philosopher, amplifies the conversation by examining embodiment beyond physical forms and ethical implications of manipulating biological systems. Together, they challenge conventional views on intelligence and biological integration.

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Sep 12, 2025 • 46min
410 - Fractals: The World Is Full of Meaning (Midwestuary talk)
Dive into the mesmerizing world of fractals and their significance in understanding reality. Explore the divine interplay of spirit and matter, uncovering patterns that reveal a greater purpose in chaos. Discover how love and commitment within communities nurture unity and belonging, proving essential for fostering open dialogue. This captivating discussion weaves together individual identities with shared motivations, illustrating the profound connections that shape our lives.

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Sep 5, 2025 • 26min
409 - The Strange Symbolism of K-Pop Demon Hunters: Shame, Attention, LGBT, Jung
Dive into the unexpected world of K-Pop Demon Hunters, where celebrity culture clashes with personal identity. The discussion uncovers how shame shapes social behavior and the importance of humility in community building. Explore the film's rich narrative, which confronts darker aspects of humanity while advocating for positive storytelling. The significance of reclaiming cultural narratives through innovative narratives is emphasized, inviting listeners to reflect on self-esteem and the impact of media on personal struggles.

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Aug 30, 2025 • 1h 13min
408 - Andrew Gould & Michael Diamant - Architecture: The Most Important Art
In this engaging discussion, Michael Diamant, founder of the Architecture Uprising movement, and Andrew Gould, an architect devoted to merging tradition with contemporary needs, dive into the significance of classical architecture. They explore how modernism has led to alienating environments and the essential role beauty plays in our lives. Michael shares insights on the architectural landscape in Europe, while Andrew emphasizes the need for community-oriented design. Together, they advocate for a revival of craftsmanship and personal expression in architecture.

Aug 29, 2025 • 1h 2min
407 - Heather Pollington - Rapunzel and the Evil Witch
Heather Pollington, an illustrator known for her medieval and Byzantine-inspired artwork in the Tales for Once and Ever series, shares her insights on the enchanting 'Rapunzel and the Evil Witch.' She discusses the evolution of the Rapunzel narrative, exploring critiques of modern fairy tale adaptations and emphasizing character transformation. The conversation highlights intricate symbolism, particularly the relationship between Rapunzel and the witch, while also delving into artistic choices that bring deeper meaning to the story. Expect profound reflections on love, isolation, and female characterization in this classic tale.

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Aug 19, 2025 • 21min
406 - Symbolism Explained: The Fundamental WWII Duality That Still Haunts Us Today
Explore the profound symbolism of World War II, highlighting the duality of the Axis and Allies. The discussion unveils how these historical narratives shaped today's political landscape, emphasizing unity versus multiplicity. Delve into the lasting effects these symbols have on our cultural perceptions of authority and community. Reflect on the philosophical themes that resonate in modern society and discover why finding balance is more crucial than ever.

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Aug 5, 2025 • 1h 8min
405 - Fr. Josiah Trenham - Marriage: The Bedrock of Civilization
Father Josiah Trenham, a prominent Orthodox priest and advocate for marriage, discusses the essential role of marriage as a cornerstone of civilization. He emphasizes its divine significance and how it contrasts with modern views of personal fulfillment. The conversation highlights the need to revive traditional marriage values to restore stability in society. Trenham also underscores the spiritual dimensions of marriage and its critical impact on family and childbearing, calling for unity among Christians to advocate for its enduring value.