

Kitces and Carl - Real Talk for Real Financial Advisors
Michael Kitces, MSFS, MTAX, CFP and Carl Richards, CFP
A no-holds barred conversation for Real Financial Advisors with industry nerd Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards. One draws with a Sharpie, the other nerds out with spreadsheets, and both provide you with unique perspectives so that you can more effectively communicate with and serve your clients, run a more fulfilling practice, and maintain a healthier lifestyle.
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Nov 13, 2025 • 39min
Ways To Say 'No' To Avoid Making Yourself Too Busy: Kitces & Carl Ep 177
Discover the art of saying 'no' to avoid overwhelm and preserve your focus. Learn how to establish filters based on energy and priorities to filter opportunities effectively. Explore strategies like using capacity language and templates for graceful declines. Hear about successful figures who practice dignified refusals and the importance of setting clear boundaries. Delve into the value of saying no at work and fostering a culture of positive communication. Embrace the power of a well-timed 'no' to reclaim your time and energy!

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Oct 30, 2025 • 35min
Ways To Say 'Yes' Sustainably To Prospects In Need Who Don't Fit Your Minimums: Kitces & Carl Ep 176
Hosts Michael Kitces and Carl Richards dive into the challenge of assisting prospective clients who can't afford standard advisory fees. They discuss the fine balance between profitability and compassion, exploring a barbell model that allows firms to serve both high-value and low-cost clients. The duo suggests creating structured programs for pro bono work and emphasizes the value of workshops and group coaching to provide scalable support. Innovative ideas like scheduled low-cost office hours and limited-scope hourly services are shared as ways to give meaningful advice without burnout.

Oct 16, 2025 • 47min
Visual Sketches As Conversation Starters To Help Clients Make Better Financial Decisions: Kitces & Carl Ep 175
In the 175th episode of Kitces and Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss how sketches can spark more meaningful money conversations. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.

Oct 2, 2025 • 30min
What Jobs Have You Given Money (That Shape How You Give Advice)?: Kitces & Carl Ep 174
Join the hosts as they embark on a whimsical thought experiment, imagining a conversation with money. They explore money's roles in life, from independence to personal milestones, and how misassigning it tasks like happiness leads to disappointment. Delving into the impacts of money on people's lives, they discuss when to ask deeper questions about its true meaning. The hosts encourage financial advisors to understand client behaviors through this 'jobs lens,' helping decode mismatched expectations and fostering meaningful conversations.

Sep 18, 2025 • 29min
When Prospects Say No Because They're Not Ready To Break Up With Their Current Advisor: Kitces & Carl Ep 173
Navigating client relationships can be tricky, especially when faced with a 'soft no.' The hosts explore how to respond positively to prospects who aren’t ready to leave their current advisors. They emphasize the importance of staying generous with follow-ups and using helpful resources instead of pushy tactics. Tips on assessing readiness to switch and easing the transition with thoughtful communication are practical strategies discussed. It’s about guiding clients through their decision-making process with empathy and support.

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Sep 4, 2025 • 32min
Scaling Financial Planning Client Affluence vs. Technology Efficiencies: Kitces & Carl Ep 172
Discover the intriguing dynamics between client wealth and productivity in financial advising. Explore the ethical dilemmas faced when prioritizing affluent clients over community service. Dive into income disparities within financial planning compared to medicine, highlighting how market forces shape career choices. Learn about the strategic advantages of serving high-net-worth clients and the significant influence of client affluence on advisory outcomes. This thought-provoking discussion raises key questions about balancing financial incentives with ethical responsibilities.

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Aug 21, 2025 • 30min
When Advising Clients Loses Its Spark: Burned Out, Or Bored-Out?: Kitces & Carl Ep 171
This discussion delves into the feelings of burnout and boredom among financial advisors after achieving success. The speakers highlight the cyclical nature of client interactions and the need for innovative practices to reignite passion. They also present a case study about an advisor contemplating drastic career changes due to burnout. Furthermore, the conversation covers team dynamics, emphasizing how diverse work preferences can affect collaboration. Practical strategies are shared to stimulate creativity while ensuring job satisfaction in a demanding industry.

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Aug 7, 2025 • 33min
Helping Clients Navigate AI Career Challenges By Building Financial Planning Resiliency: Kitces & Carl Ep 170
In this podcast, the hosts tackle how financial advisors can support clients facing uncertainty due to AI job disruption. They discuss the importance of resilience and proactive planning strategies. By comparing job impacts in sectors like law and software engineering, they illustrate the varying effects of AI. Practical advice includes increasing liquidity and adjusting investment allocations. The conversation emphasizes empathetic communication with clients, ensuring their concerns are addressed in a supportive manner.

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Jul 24, 2025 • 42min
Is There A Future Of Financial Planning In The AI Era?: Kitces & Carl Ep 169
The podcast dives into the revolutionary impact of AI on financial planning. It emphasizes the power of technology to enhance, not replace, the vital human connections in advisory roles. The hosts discuss concepts like 'self-driving money' and how automated systems can support personal financial goals. They highlight the evolving landscape that necessitates emotional intelligence and deeper client relationships. Plus, there's a fascinating look at how data analysis can benefit athletic performance, illustrating the broad applications of AI.

Jul 10, 2025 • 36min
Do You Really Have To Go Deep With Every New Client In The First Meeting?: Kitces & Carl Ep 168
In our 168th episode of Kitces & Carl, Michael Kitces and client communication expert Carl Richards discuss whether it's more effective to dive deep in the first client meeting or to focus on the immediate issue and reserve the more emotional conversations for future sessions. For full show notes, see kitces.com and thesocietyofadvice.com.


